Talk:Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)

I think Cybertron should be defined as its own continuity Seperate from the Armada/Energon Story, Outside of the Comic and Toy Package references the Cartoon has far too many Historical Diferences, like the folowing:

-The first Episode Optimus talks as if they will be the first Autobots on Earth and must remain hidden from the population (by the time of Energon Tranformers were puplic knowledge on Earth)

-Minicons come from Giant Planet, as opposed to Unicron himself

-When Leobreaker and Optimus first Link-up they all act as if this is unheard of, this was later ignored when Wingsaber and Optimus talked about a Accidental Power Linking they previously shared. (Power Linking for Optimus was a Minor Part of Armada, and a Major part for all Autobots in Energon)

- Their Earth Allies from Armada/Energon (Rad, Carlos, Alexis, Kicker and the rest of the Jones Family) are not seen or mentioned at all

It should be noted that at no point during the Energon cartoon is the existance of Transformers demonstrated to be public knowledge. Every human they're seen with is working for the Earth Federation's energon projects. --KilMichaelMcC 13:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

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• Rad, Carlos, Alexis, and Kicker ARE seen in the final episode of Cybertron, in scenes added to the American version.
• In the Fan Club Cybertron comic, Vector Prime explains that the Unicron Singularity is causing memory glitches in the Autobots as time and space is distorted.
• Armada and Energon have lots of continuity contradictions, too. Oh, and let's not even get into the continuity/origin contradictions in the G1 cartoon from season to season.
• Hasbro says they're the same story. 'Nuff said.

--ItsWalky 13:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Nuff said indeed. The one thing that irritates me more than GEEWUNISM are the fans who are so obsessed that they think it is their right to control what Transformers can and cannot do. Like it or not, it belongs to Hasbro and if they say that Optimus Prime was a truck driver stuck in a time warp that got fused with his delivery vehicle, then it happened. You can't just say what did or did not happen because you happen to dislike the direction. I would have MUCH preferred that Cybertron have been handled more closely as a sequel, but I openly accept Fun Publication's explanations for the continuity errors.

--Bodycount

Oooooh. I can see it now. Transformers, starring Turbo Teen! (ducks and runs)--G.B. Blackrock 18:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

The major problem with these continuity errors is because of the change over from the japanese Galaxy Force to the american Cybertron. In all events its best thinking of Galaxy force and cybertron as another alternate universe (despite them trying to merge them with a few added images as mentioned further up in this discussion). (Menchicutlets)-- 15:19, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Lousy Effort

Who is not even putting up a very good effort on these Armada, Energon and Cybertron sections? {unsigned|69.234.144.73}}

We're trying to get them done eventually, thank you very much, but it takes a long time to watch, rewatch and then write a decent episode summary article, and given the quality of the series in question, I don't think many people have the inclination to write them. If you want them filled out, how about helping us by contributing yourself? --FFN 16:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Considering HIS "contributions" in that area consisted of nothing more than super-shitty barely-English one-paragraph pages? I'd rather he DIDN'T. --M Sipher 18:36, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Which is why I asked you guys if he should have been given a 'time out' given his repeated disregard for our rules and standards. --FFN 19:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

"Lousy effort" seems like a pretty good descriptor of your additions thus far! Half-English half-paragraphs, no formatting? Thanks! --ItsWalky 19:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Lousy effort seems like a good descriptor from Armada-Cyb, which I think is the root cause for tha apathy towards them.

I haven't even WATCHED half of the UT, and I have little desire to. Inflicting 30 hours of truly awful television on myself out of a feeling of obligation had yet to win out, despite my own completionist tendencies towards fiction. -Derik 22:29, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Only one editing?

Why you made me the only one editing? You think I'm the expert and elite on this? Thats why YOU MADE ME DO ALL YOUR WORK?!!! I'm not the expert at Transformers, you are not me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.234.144.73 (talk • contribs).

You're right, we're sorry. Because of your effort, we'll triple your pay. Wait a minute.

To be honest, Cybertron is still fairly fresh in everybody's mind, so there's no real demand for this information quite yet, but at the same time it's not fresh and hot as the movie, which because it's essentially the most prominent aspect of Transformers right now, has a huge demand for info.

On this wiki, everything, like, everything gets added eventually. But I, personally, have trouble adding details on episodes when the DVDs aren't out yet.--Zodberg 22:50, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Nobody's making you do anything. You might as well as why no-one making Beast Wars episode articles. You going to do those too, just because no-one else is? Cause that's the only reason they're not being made - no-one's gotten around to doing them yet. And a big part of that is that a lot of us find the Unicron Trilogy a tremendous slog to get through, and just aren't enthusiastic enough about it to do stuff on the wiki that deals with it. This isn't supposed to be "work," y'know. It's for fun, and if you're not going to have fun doing it, well... don't. Like everything else on the wiki, it'll be made when someone decides that they want to do it. - Chris McFeely 22:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

We'll see Armada finished before Energon or Cybertron, because DVDs are available and the episodes were widely distributed back in the day. I don't even have a copy of Fallen or the other early episodes of Cybertron, just the Galaxy Force originals (which of course creates a problem as Cyb and GF don't jive with one another, so I can't simply use them as proxies). I'm certainly not going to go out and buy the few available Cybertron DVDs just to do recaps. --FFN 02:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

By the way the Unicron Trilogy is over and Animated is replacing it. So lets try to edit this. Thundercracker has an electric punch in episode challenge.(Spearhead 08:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

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