Talk:Size class

This article really needs the MSRPs, not my guesses. I don't exactly know the size classes in RiD, so somebody else has to fill that in. Also, were "Super" and "Supreme" used in Armada? Singularity 22:57, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Yessir. --ItsWalky 01:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

RID uses the same classes as Beast Wars up to Super, but I don't know what Air Attack Optimus Primal sold for.

Done some tweaking. It's interesting to note that Cybertron was the first line to actually have the modern "Ultra" price point officially called "Ultra". --Nevermore 13:38, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

What qualifies for "size classes"?

Was wondering about Deployers and Beast Riders... Are they actually "size classes" in the strict sense? Same for the role-play toys.

And then we would have the store exclusive assortments such as the RiD KB "Destructicons" Scourge & Bludgeon, Energon KB Cyclonus & Demolishor, Universe KB Snow Cat & Downshift, Universe BiaB Magnus/Treadshot & Smoescreen/Ransack and whatnot.

Are "assortments" and "size classes" the same? Because then we would have those one million different assortments from the G1 days, which introduced some of the names later used by the price points ("Autobot Deluxe Vehicles", "Deluxe Insecticons", "Mega Pretenders", "Ultra Pretenders").--Nevermore 17:11, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Go nuts. Can't hurt. Interrobang 17:16, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not so sure. In G1 and G2, often two or more case assortments would have the same price yet still ship at the same time, such as the Autobot and Decepticon Headmasters and Targetmasters. Plus, the prices weren't uniform between stores as they are now. It wasn't until Beast Wars that all figures of the same price were confined to one assortment . unless you count the Fuzors vs Transfetals in '98, but then it was Basic/Deluxe Fuzor/Transmetals.

How about adding it as a note, then? G1 and G2 were like this... and then Hasbro more or less consolidated uniform price points with Beast Wars, yadda yadda.--Nevermore 21:44, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Conversion chart?

Can we get a table showing how the size classes convert? -Derik 19:31, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Price	BW	BM	RID	Arm	Uni	Ene	Cyb	Cla	Mov
$4					Spychangers, Micromasters		Legends (3.00)	Legends	Legends
$5	Basic	Deployers	Basic & Spychangers		Basic		Mini-Con
$7		Basic		Minicons (6.50)		Energon	Scouts	Minicons	Scout
$10	Deluxe	Deluxe, Beast Riders	Deluxe	Super-Con	Deluxe	Combat	Deluxe	Classic Deluxe	Deluxe
$15	Mega	Mega	Mega	Laserbeak, Roleplay
$20	Ultra	Ultra	Ultra	Max-Con	Ultra	Mega Combat / Mega & Role-Play	Voyager	Classic Voyager	Voyager
$25				Giga-Con		Commanders / Command	Ultra
$30	Super ($35)	Super	Super
$40		Supreme		Superbase		Leaders	Leader		Leader
$50				Chaos Bringer		Omega	Supreme
$90									Ultimate

Not putting this in the article yet, as it still needs some work. The Armada Mini-cons and Op Op are under pre-existing rows with their prices listed, as having an entire row for a price point that was used in just one line from BW on would just waste space. --FortMax 20:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Prices are difficult because they change... this chart treats them lore like a price-point than a size-class.

(I liked the size class system used by the Cybertronian Index, an expanded version of the BW sizes that included every size toy.) -Derik 20:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I think the price point is much simpler and more accurate. The BW Megas are about halfway between current Deluxes and Voyagers (often called Mega class) when it comes to size and complexity. OpOp (Super) is somewhere between current Ultras and Leaders/Supers. BW Ultra toys are about eguivelent to current day Voyagers/Megas. This also fits with the prices. The main exception is the Basic class, has fluctuated some, but the dip from RID is from the class being (aside from Obsidian) nothing but Scramble City limbe and Spychangers. --FortMax 23:48, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Useful for comparing how things were sold. Not so useful for tellign you how big a toy actually is. How big were mini-cons, which were never sold singly? Price point does not reflect their size.

Fast Action Battlers? Activators?

Do the FABs belong on there? How about the Animated Activators, which are sort of a cross between Legends and FABs?--Nevermore 09:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Movie Ultra Class

What's the exact term used on the TRU Ultra boxes? --FortMax 21:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

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