Talk:Transformer

Should the mention of Cybertron as the most recent incarnation of Transformers be replaced by Classics? Amadeus 19:39, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I went ahead and changed it from Cybertron to Classics. Amadeus 19:42, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to change it to the movie line, but do we really want to have to constantly update this? Maybe it should be removed altogether.

Also, I daresay this is no longer a stub. --Sntint 06:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Split Species / Toyline?

Just wondering if there was support for splitting this into two articles "Transformers (species)" and "Transformers (toyline)" or if folks prefered it as the one joint article? ZacWilliam 14:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I support a split. Although "toyline" isn't the right word... and neither is franchise. They both already have established meanings in our nomenclature. "Brand" would probably be best. --Steve-o 15:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

"Brand" seems to be the word Hasbro uses. --M Sipher 19:39, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry... did you just say the Transformers aren't robots? -Derik 21:13, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Uh, yeah. Mr. IP Address, aren't the tagline "robots in diguise", the term "robot mode", and four whole lines referring to the Transformers as robots right in their titles enough to convince you that's what they are? --Rotty 21:23, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

A robot, by definition, is ..."1. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance. 2. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control. 3. A person who works mechanically without original thought, especially one who responds automatically to the commands of others." Try arguing with the American Heritage Dictionary, and then read the phrase "species of robot" and tell me it sounds intelligent. The Transformers are self aware and under nobody's control. Thus, they are not robots.

Also, the fact that children almost always associate the term "robot" with something like the Transformers means that Hasbro was and still is smart enough to market their product with that subtitle.

Uh, how about the fact that Transformers themselves referred to insecticide that works on other Transformers as Robotic insecticide, if you want self-reference by characters in the fiction? --Rotty 21:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

"And if we're talking unnatural life forms, we gotta be talking about just one thing! Robots in disguise!" - Cheetor, first episode of Beast Wars --M Sipher 22:18, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I had a valid retaliation in store, but I believe "sentient robot," which has been edited in, sums everything up. Sorry for the disagreement.

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