Talk:Wheelie (G1)

I applaud the profile. --ItsWalky 22:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

It's amazing how many sentences can rhyme without not making sense. American Girl 19:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, on second thought, I applaud the concept of the bio, but think the content is more appropriate for the animated continuity section. It seems to chronicle the circumstances of the movie, and not his personality. (Remember, in Dreamwave, he was never on Quintessa that we saw.) --ItsWalky 22:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Point conceded. The new bio's better than mine anyway. The whole entry is much improved. So many horrible rhymes...bwahahahahaha. --Autobus Prime 12:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

We totally need to complete this entry. This deserves to be a Featured Article. sadly, I'm pretty awful about fiction. I OWN most of it, but don't REMEMBER it very well. --M Sipher 06:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Having just rhymed all through the section I just added, I have no idea how Wheelie keeps it up 24/7. Exhausting! --Ratbat 09:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Rhyming isn't really all that hard if you have the vocabulary of a bard. --Andrusi 13:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed the manga summary to rhyme and keep the gag going. Though I think I write rhymes more like Dr. Seuss than Wheelie...--DrSpengler 23:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

wow, this profile almost makes me wish I didn't use my Wheelie toy as cannon fodder in the late 80's -- great job with the rhymes whoever did this should work for a greeting card company

I'm fine with the rhyming in the article, but the rhythm really needs work. I'd change it, but I'm afraid of being accused of ripping apart large sections of the article for no good reason (see Walky's comment below).--G.B. Blackrock 22:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Not yet to be Featured

Sipher, the reason I unfeatured it is because the inconsistency of the rhyme's meter is really embarrassing. If you read the history, you'll see my note. --ItsWalky 14:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Then maybe you should have removed the "Featured Article" Category, which is why I put the tag on it (and is still there as of your last edit). --M Sipher 15:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Indeed I should! Meanwhile, history is your friend. --ItsWalky 15:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Commercial voice

Walky, Frank Welker never VOICED Scrappy-Doo! He did, however, voice Peewit. --Monzo 12:57, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Welker did voice Zzcooby & Freddy in new show! Wazzpinator 18:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Italian names

I don't have the brainpower to add these in rhyme tonight. If somebody could, Wheelie was called Saetta in the dub of TFTM, and... apparently Scooter in everything else. (At least, it doesn't SEEM to be a joke...) --Monzo 05:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I apologize. - Chris McFeely, not signed in

Continuity rhymes

"Continuity" doesn't rhyme with "see". [It rhymes with "bitty", to pick an irrelevant-but-accurate example] - 21:39, 16 August 2009 (EDT)

It also rhymes with "enginuity"! -- Ziyad 20:03, 18 August 2009 (EDT)

Or even "ingenuity"!--Apcog 00:27, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

Ooh! Here's one that's on-topic, "ambiguity"!! -- Ziyad 07:14, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

But seriously, folks...

...am I going to be hugely unpopular if I state my belief that the article has, at this point, gone way overboard? Rhymes in the section headers, line-breaks all over the place, rhymes being used to describe continuities where he didn't rhyme... I think that this page has long since crossed the line between "fun" and "taking it way too far". Frankly, I would almost be in favour of scaling it back to just having a rhyming opening and captions. A lot of the fiction section is, to my eyes, suffering because of the demands of the rhyme scheme. - Chris McFeely 10:11, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

All my hard work...unappreciated...:( --DrSpengler 10:47, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

But to be serious, I wrote nearly all the rhymes in the fiction portion of the article and created the linebreaks so folks could see the scheme. The rhymes in the fiction headers and continuity notes were some no-username's doing and I've never been very fond of them.

Still, if many people agree that the humor interferes with the facts, then we can put it to a vote as to whether we get rid of the rhymes in the headers, the rhymes all together or if we just leave it. It may be my joke, but I'm not going to have a heart attack if others want to change it so it doesn't interfere with the facts (unlike some members of this Wiki). --DrSpengler 10:54, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

Aw, it's not that it's not appreciated, I see what you were doing, but it's... it's like Bonecrusher hate jokes. We started out with them and they were funny when the article was small but then when it was filled in they got really tiresome but people kept dogpiling 'em on anyway, until we had to say "No more". That's sort of what I'm feeling here. The idea worked when the article was small, but when it's full (which it isn't yet!) I think it gets in the way more than it is fun. - Chris McFeely 10:56, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

I need to concur, although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure. At the very least, his summary. --Jimsorenson 11:20, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

I need to concur/although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure.

Why, there's one right there! :) - Chris McFeely 11:31, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

But this is the most awesome page on the wiki. It's one of the things people think of when they talk about how awesome our wiki is. It's like getting rid of the teacup ride at Disneyland. --ItsWalky 11:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

Or the testicles in ROTF. The Awesome defense only goes so far, especially in Transformers.--Jimsorenson 11:44, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

That's a terrible analogy. When people talk about our wiki, they mention our Wheelie article that is all rhymes, and this is a good thing that they think epitomizes what we stand for and why we're better than other wikis. When people talk about Devastator's balls, it's derisively. I don't understand your comparison. --ItsWalky 12:46, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

It's simple - Devastator's testicle's are 'awesome.' Bay thinks so. A lot of the moviegoing public though so. Most 'serious' fans thought otherwise. But an awful lot of people laughed and laughed at them, probably more than will ever read this wiki. Just because one group of people thinks something is awesome doesn't keep it from getting in the way of (imparting information / telling a strong story.) The fandom can be be a bit of an insulated community - an echo chamber, if you will. Pointing to anecdotal evidence one way or the other shouldn't be our benchmark. It's much more useful to go back to core principles.

But mostly I was seizing on your use of the word awesome which has been forever commingled with Bay for me.--Jimsorenson 13:25, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

Well, I think the charm of us writing articles in the personality of the characters extends to more than just this one. Crankcase, Perceptor, Rewind, etc., for instance. It can actually be weirdly useful sometimes in conveying information about characters without having to spell it out. But, if it's getting in the way of having an actual informative article in any instance, then it does need toning down. --Jeysie 13:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

I agree some of the rhyming should go. The headers, external link, notes and voice actor info in rhyme seems redundant to me, if not annoying. I can somewhat dig the argument not to put rhyme in sections of fiction in which he didn't rhyme, although I'd hate to see it go. But what I think would greatly help this article is a better layout. Currently, the article is all rather statically and confusingly "text-humongous white space-pic". I'd like to see it being connected a tad more by switching the text-pic order every second fiction/rhyme-paragraph (as well as having some of the paragraphs expanded). Geewunling 11:48, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

I think all of the paragraphs should remain in rhyme. Headers, bullet-point "list" items... no. That's overkill. --M Sipher 12:51, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, mark me down as a compromise vote. Ditch the headers/notes, etc rhymes but keep the fiction section poetry. Partly because I spent a lot of time writing most of it, but also because I don't think the fiction poetry really interferes with the knowledge. The headers and stuff is annoying, though. --DrSpengler (at work, can't log in)

I'll agree with that. -- Dark T Zeratul 14:55, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

I'd quite happily dump the whole joke, which was never that funny. And it does seriously impede the article. Vote NO on this from me User:Eire 20.02 Oct 12 09 (UTC)

Japanese fiction: Rhyme or Not Rhyme?

Recently, I've been told to stop writing the Japanese fiction sections in rhyme because Wheelie didn't rhyme in Japan, and that all rhymes should be reverted to standard. I wrote the Japanes fiction sections in rhyme to keep up the theme and flow of the article, and because it was fun, yeah. But if everyone else thinks the Japanese fiction sections should be de-rhymed, then so be it. Let's take a vote. --DrSpengler 12:26, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I vote AGAINST rhyme in the Japanese section. It simply isn't appropriate for that incarnation of the character.--G.B. Blackrock 12:39, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I vote for it because I like the general theme of the page, it's fun, and because Wheelie only never rhymed because the Japanese language sucks at rhyming (same reason why their poems and music lyrics don't rhyme). The sentence structure just doesn't work in its favor. Just because the Japanese couldn't do it doesn't mean we should follow suit. English rocks at rhyming. --Detour 12:55, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Here's me voting for it, because if we're going to do a gag, we ought to be consistent with it throughout the article, or it looks half-assed. --Jeysie 13:33, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I vote for it. Keep it consistent or keep it out. ---Blackout- 13:38, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Just so there's no confusion, I am obviously for it. I think the rhymes make the article fun and I believe that having random non-rhyming chunks would break up the flow of the page. And doing it just because Wheelie didn't rhyme in certain continuities isn't worth killing the fun. --DrSpengler 13:40, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I vote for it. Keeps the page consistent and there's already someone willing to do it. - Cattleprod 14:00, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I vote AGAINST all the rhyme. Seriously, you ever sit down and try to exract information from this page? Imagine you're someone who knows nothing of Wheelie. After reading this I guarantee you'll know even less. User: Eire 18.59 8 Feb 2010

Hey, were you the guy who called a dude a schmuck for no real reason, and so then he quit this wiki because he was treated like shit? You don't get a vote. Especially since you think Florida and Cuba are separated by a friggin' river. (Anyway, I vote against rhyming in the Headmasters section.) --ItsWalky 14:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I vote against the rhyme, and note that when I first read this page, the break away from rhyming was hilarious... particularly because the text of the section was written in short, flat deliberately boring sentences to maximize the contrast. -Derik 14:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Yeah. I don't vote for the lack of rhyming in the Headmasters section for technicality reasons, but because it would be hilarious. Especially if it were written like a petulant little punk. --ItsWalky 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)

AGAINST btw. --ItsWalky 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I'm for it as I think it'd disrupt the flow, if it was only randomly rhyming.--TFDatabase

Whatever policy we adopt, it's not going to be random. If it rhymes, it's for a reason. If it doesn't rhyme (especially in specific sections), it's also for a reason.--G.B. Blackrock 15:03, 8 February 2010 (EST)

But it LOOKS random (at least before you know why it was done). Also, it seems weird that TFDatabase gets jumped on for using the same wording Spengs did earlier.Khajidha 15:10, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Just a fluke of timing. Nothing more. It's not like I'm constantly on the Wiki monitoring each and every comment that comes on.--G.B. Blackrock 16:03, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I vote for for the reasons already listed by so many others. Now, if you could find a way to do that section in haiku instead... Khajidha 14:35, 8 February 2010 (EST)

That idea is morbidly appealing. --Jeysie 14:50, 8 February 2010 (EST)

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! Khajidha 14:57, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I'm for it. As Detour mentioned, Japanese sentence structures don't allow much room for rhyming and the rhyming is unique to Wheelie (like how SG Nightbeat's page is done in Edward G. Robinson's gangster character fashion).

(Haiku? Good grief...) --Lonegamer78 15:27, 8 February 2010 (EST)

...so I have an evil sense of humor. You won't hold it against me, will you? --Jeysie 17:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Not really, but I can imagine the chore of parsing everything down to 5-7-5. Heck, tanka might be a better option given its 5-7-5-7-7. --Lonegamer78 19:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I vote for the rhyming, for the reasons already given. Geewunling 15:41, 8 February 2010 (EST)

As do I, we have it noted that he didn't rhyme in other dubs anyway. Stevo 17:49, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I vote against rhyming in the Headmasters section. Having that section being assholey makes it even funnier, and Headmasters Wheelie is they guy who wouldn't go along with it simply to be a jerk. --FortMax 18:14, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I vote for rhyming, as otherwise we should probably stick a disclaimer at the start of the Headmasters section because you know others will come along and make it rhyme again later anyway.--MCRG Again 18:56, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Against rhyming, because the Headmasters section should read like the dialog of the show: boring and stating the obvious, repeatedly. (I'd be for haiku form, though) -Mazenoise 19:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I'm FOR rhyming because it'd flow badly otherwise. --M Sipher 19:13, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I would totally support rewriting Headmasters Wheelie in sarcastic Goth format, if it could be pulled off well. Otherwise.... eh. Having the rhyming is overkill. Not having it is inconsistent. Pick your poison! -- Repowers 21:16, 8 February 2010 (EST)

FOR rhyming. --Ascendron 21:23, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I declare voting over. I'd only be convinced to ditch Spengler's large amounts of work over a technicality is if voting were overwhelmingly in favor of it. Like, near-unanimous. And that certainly isn't the case, so the rhyming stays. --ItsWalky 21:54, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Yaayyy! I'm appreciated! I've got tomorrow off work so I'll knock out a few more episodes. If it's any consolation to those who voted against the rhymes, in order to write these fiction summaries I have to actually watch each episode. A most-terrible fate. So this is a very hollow victory for Spengler. --DrSpengler 22:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Okay, you know what? I seriously retract my earlier moan about the rhyming. Spengler is utterly rocking this, getting across all the relevant info in a way I never thought was possible. - Chris McFeely 07:58, 15 February 2010 (EST)

I'm cookin' MCs like a pound of bacon, yo. --DrSpengler 11:02, 15 February 2010 (EST)

Featured Article material?

So, I finally finished the thing. His every fiction section is completed, pics are plentiful and, so far as I know, his toy page is up to snuff (toys aren't my forte', I admit). Do you think this article is worthy of Featured Article status? --DrSpengler 18:04, 14 April 2010 (EDT)

Considering Walky already slapped the Featured template on it, apparently it is. ;)

(It's certainly the most impressive of our self-demonstrating articles, that's for damn sure.) --Jeysie 18:13, 14 April 2010 (EDT)

Aw jeez, somehow I completely missed that. My bad! Disregard this! (and thanks, Walky!) --DrSpengler 18:18, 14 April 2010 (EDT)

If we ever get the chance...

I'd love to see a picture of Wheelie being attacked by Decepticons on this article with the caption "Oh men of dark and dismal fate, forego your cruel employ! Have pity on my lonely state: I am an orphan boy!" (This is a quote from Gilbert & Sullivan's Pirates of Penzance, for the operatically ignorant.) I realize that there is no good picture for this caption as of now and that this will likely not happen, but I thought I'd just throw that out there. Also, kudos to those brave men and women who endeavored to write this article. You would make your English teachers proud.
- ¡Usa El Queso! 00:33, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

Wow

I can't even begin to imagine the effort that went into this. Truly epic! - LucidFox 10:29, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Generations toy caption ideas

I pity the fool who's no Meister retool!

I pity the fool who ain't a retool!

Reformatted to look like Meister? I think this body is much nicer!

I may look like Jazz, Stepper, Longarm (not Prime)--but do any of them ever bother to rhyme?

I used to be a Minicar; a Jazz retool is better by far!

A Jazz retool can never fail (as long as you ignore the scale)!

Rhymus 02:35, 26 September 2012 (EDT)

What rhymes with 'orange'?

1) This entry is amazing, but 2) all this and no joke about the notorious difficulty of rhyming the word 'orange'?--Dubbilex 03:29, 30 December 2012 (EST)

"Door-hinge". I learned that from the Muppets. --DrSpengler 13:06, 1 March 2013 (EST)

How about a rhyme for "purple"? "Urkel"? --Sabrblade 14:09, 1 March 2013 (EST)

Bloom County recommends "whore binge". Phasma Felis 16:49, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

Can we please tone down on the rhyming?

I get that a lot of you have spent a to of time and effort making this entire article rhyme, but can you guys please re-edit parts of this article to tone it down and remove the rhyming in some areas, specifically in the notes and toy section?

A little bit of rhyming would be fine, but to be blunt, the way the article is written is not pleasant to look at and the rhyming just makes the article feel like a chore to read. It gets tiring to read very quickly and I would rather have the information be just available rather then hidden under annoying rhymes.

If not, can we at least have a non-rhyming version of this available via suite, similar to how some of the character articles are split into multiple pages like Main, G1 Cartoon, Toys and Merchandise etc? That way, you can keep the rhyming versions for those who want and a non-rhyming for those who don't want to read this version?

Again, sorry for coming across as a buzz-kill, but I just find the article not fun to read and I don't want to decrypt rhymes just to read the trivia.Gretnablue (talk) 17:41, 22 November 2015 (EST)

I wouldn't mind a double of the article that doesn't rhyme. Information should always take precedence. --Ascendron (talk) 18:48, 22 November 2015 (EST)

Mmm... be careful with that. Make a version without the rhyming if you must, but who will govern that the information is the same between the two? Also... One of the reasons I love this Wikia to bits is how it doesn't take itself so seriously while it indeed provides way more than I ever wanted to know about Transformers. And sure, the meter is all over the place, but then again, Wheelie wasn't consistent, either. -- Jerryteacup, 30 December 2016

Also remember the huge bold text at the top of Talk:Main Page. - TBR (talk) 19:13, 30 December 2016 (EST)

There are other rhyming blokes, maybe they could make good jokes

We all know Wheelie's the master of rhymes,

But there are others that talk like that all the time!

There's Roadblock, Crackotage and even Choose Goose

And baddies like Grunty who like to let loose!

With that in mind, it could be fun

To reference these guys on "Wheelie (G1)".

There's even a trope entry one can look up

To see what character references one can cook up! --Samus Aran (talk) 09:29, 28 June 2017 (EDT)