Talk:Unicron Trilogy continuity family

Okay Derik, what's wrong with the "animated continuity" description? --KilMichaelMcC 11:12, 4 June 2007 (UTC) Oh, and I see that in addition to the strike through of the description, you've added an unhelpful, confusing info box. Further explanation of this is required. --KilMichaelMcC 11:16, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Am I wrong? It was my understanding that Armada Cartoon > Energon Cartoon > Cybertron cartoon... didn't happen.

It was really Armada Comic > Energon Comic > Cybertron cartoon. Thus the term 'animated continuity' is extremely wrong. -Derik 14:00, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Rumor and speculation. There is a section on this in the Cybertron (cartoon) article. So perhaps some version of that text should be here, or at least a link to it. I personally think the idea that Cybertron isn't in-continuity with the previous two cartoons is absurd. At any rate, your chart is decidedly non-helpful. "Actas Duology"? You expect readers to see that and not go "Bwuh?" --KilMichaelMcC 14:17, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

What the hell, Derik? --ItsWalky 15:07, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

What the fuck is an Actas Duology? -hx 16:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

...how is this rumor and speculation? The Fun Pub comics explicitly establish that the Cybertron in Cybertron (heh) is the one OverRun downloaded himself into after Starscream killed him in the Energon comic. Does this not mean the Cybertron cartoon follows the Dreamwave Energon comic? -Derik 18:02, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

It also establishes that the Unicron Singularity was caused by Primus trapping Uni's spark in an Energon sun. Guess where that happened! --KilMichaelMcC 18:09, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

In the empty open chunk of continuity left by the cancellation of the Energon comic? -Derik 19:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Um, well, I suppose anything could have happened in there. Of course, Primus trapping Unicron's spark inside a newly created sun actually did happen in the last episode of the cartoon. --KilMichaelMcC 19:26, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Unless the Fun Pub comic actually said "And then our two continuities merged to create this ass-baby," why are you assuming that the Cybertron with OverRun on it ISN'T the comic? Doesn't it make enormously more sense to say "Gee, it's the DW Energon continuity, explicitly! I guess the same event took place at the end in order to line up with the first ep of Cybertron!"

The end of the Armada cartoon and Armada comic both featured Optimus Prime spontaneously recoloring himself and a huge fleet battle against Unicron wherein he is flung out to the far reaches of the galaxy with the Decepticon leader still inside him- creating lasting peace. Why assume the end of the Energon comic would be less parallel?

Am I crazy for asking this? Am I missing something? Because it seems like the Fun Pub comic went out of its way to place the Cybertron cartoon into the void at the end of the Dreamwave comic. Why is everyone looking at me like I farted for saying this? -Derik 19:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I think the fart in this analogy is not the argument you are making, but rather the ridiculous edit you made to the page. You do have a point in that the Fun Pub comic makes things less clear-cut than the article's current text implies. It could use a helping of the stuff whats on the Cybertron (cartoon) page, as I said above. (BTW, I thought the FP comic gave the Mini-Cons their cartoon-specific Unicronian origin? I have not read it myself, but I'm sure I saw that in some summary somewheres.) --KilMichaelMcC 19:48, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Not to mention that it specifically takes the time to justify why the Transformers in the Cybertron cartoon don't remember things from the previous two season right. - Chris McFeely 18:17, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

They'd need to have forgotten the Armada and Energon comics too. (Is there a less circular argument hidden here somewhere? "They didnt' remember what came before- therefore they forgot the cartoon continuity.") -Derik 19:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

This all seems hauntingly familiar... --KilMichaelMcC 18:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't care what beef you have, Derik. It's no justification to throw strike-throughs through the page's text and make up nonsensical descriptors that nobody else understands. This wiki shouldn't be a minefield of codewords. --ItsWalky 19:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Granted- thus putting a comment-flag in the article to call for others immediate input reversion. -Derik 19:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

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