Talk:Self-regenerating molecular armor
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I don't think it's English translation of a Cybertronian term so much as it's a description of fact -Derik 22:05, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, the phrase was spoken by the Army dudes, before they ever talked to any Transformer. It's not a translation of anything. --ItsWalky 22:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Protoform generated repairs?
It's established in the Movie Guide that the Transformer's exostructure/skeleton is generated by the core protoform out of its own ultra-dense mass and any nearby matter it can capture. That could probably be included here. My question is, IS it fair to assume the self-regeneration described in this article is also a function of the inner protoform? After all, the protoform can generate a new exostructure in a matter of moments or alter its existing one entirely (Bumblebee switching alt-modes) in seconds so wouldn't repair likely function in the same way, and just as simply?--ZacWilliam 23:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
- Isn't that the Furman book? I'd really like to hold off on hurrying to clutter up Transformer anatomy material from Dreamworks itself with him. If the book doesn't explicitly say "... and that's how they can regenerate their armor.", I vote not to include it. -Rotty 23:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
- The guide stuff is as official as anything in the film, so that's a definate. We of course won't add any material to the wiki that's made up, I was more along the lines of seeing if others thought that was a logical way for things to work given what we know about the protoform's funtionings.--ZacWilliam 23:51, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
- I have the book being held for me at my local BNN, I'll let you know what I think when I get home. -Derik 00:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- QUICK, BAN HIM. -Rotty 00:06, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- This same guide also has totally nonsensical power-plans-esque parts idenitifications on the pictures of all the characters, so at least some aspects of it should not be taken seriously. Unless you really think all of Prime's little truck-mode lights are missile launchers... :) --Steve-o 01:39, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- I honestly don't think that's any more far fetched than anything else in Transformers. :) So his lights can launch missles. Why the heck not? Seriously though, we don't get to choose what's to be taken seriously. Official canon is official canon and there's plenty of things in TFs MUCH sillier and less likely than anything you'll find in that guide.--ZacWilliam 02:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- It's not more far-fetched, no... but it is completely... out of character, sort of, for the movie universe? I'm not saying that it's not canon. I'm saying that we have to be discerning about what supplemental material we assume is valid in other, related continuities. I am very confident in saying that in the movie, Prime does not actually have 10 or whatever missile launchers and 10 more morter launchers in truck mode. In some other Movie-family continuity, whatever the book is depicting, he obviously does because it says so. But that guide, like ALL supplemental/prequel material, does not necessarily apply to the continuity of the actual film itself. Sometimes we see direct contradictions, and sometimes it's just stuff like those plans which are really, really out of place. So, as Rotty says, I think we should be careful about declaring stuff to be true in the strict movie-verse based on supplemental stuff written by totally disconnected people. The part you were asking about sounds okay to me, personally. The explanation is in line with what we saw in the film, doesn't seem out of place, etc.. But that's not going to be true for everything. I don't want to see Prime's fiction section for the film modified to say that his truck mode has all those launchers on it, for example. --Steve-o 03:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- So you're saying it's like the bizarre one-off never-mentioned-anywhere-else powers Autobots would display in a single episode of the Sunbow cartoon and never use again- even in circumstances where those powers would immediately solve an otherwise implacable problem.
- Yes those powers are real, yes they are canon- but to document them as if they were an ability that Transformer always has at their disposal would distort the understanding of the character being communicated by a reader of the article. -Derik 03:56, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- I want to note that Ghosts of Yesterday describes Transformers as having multiple weapons systems, some described as "main". The implication is certainly that Transformer bodies - Optimus included - are covered with a number of (apparently physically small) guns. It all really seems to be written as if how one would describe space ship weapons.
- However, despite noting this, I agree with Steve. --Sntint 04:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- It's not more far-fetched, no... but it is completely... out of character, sort of, for the movie universe? I'm not saying that it's not canon. I'm saying that we have to be discerning about what supplemental material we assume is valid in other, related continuities. I am very confident in saying that in the movie, Prime does not actually have 10 or whatever missile launchers and 10 more morter launchers in truck mode. In some other Movie-family continuity, whatever the book is depicting, he obviously does because it says so. But that guide, like ALL supplemental/prequel material, does not necessarily apply to the continuity of the actual film itself. Sometimes we see direct contradictions, and sometimes it's just stuff like those plans which are really, really out of place. So, as Rotty says, I think we should be careful about declaring stuff to be true in the strict movie-verse based on supplemental stuff written by totally disconnected people. The part you were asking about sounds okay to me, personally. The explanation is in line with what we saw in the film, doesn't seem out of place, etc.. But that's not going to be true for everything. I don't want to see Prime's fiction section for the film modified to say that his truck mode has all those launchers on it, for example. --Steve-o 03:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
