User talk:Drmick

Hi, when we upload images, we have to use copyright tags if the images are owned by somebody else.

For comic covers:
{{comiccover}}

For interiors:
{{comicinterior}}

For general-purpose Hasbro/TakaraTomy + affiliated companies-owned images such as character art or stock toy photography:
{{hastak}}

And for photos not owned by Hasbro/TakaraTomy but falls under US fair use laws:
{{fairuse}}

You also need to credit the artists involved if it's some sort of comic or book art, if known. If you don't know, then say something like 'Art by: Unknown' or something. Artists should be credited individually as Pencillers, inkers, colourists and letterers.

It is also preferrable to mention and Wikilink the name of the issue as well as the number, since "TF UK No. 229" is fairly meaningless. Also preferrable to Wikilink names of major characters or whatever if you mentioned them in the description.

Thanks. --FFN 17:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, nowadays we try to avoid using comic covers inside the fiction sections of characters. We prefer comic panels. --FFN 17:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

As you probably have deduced, I'm new to the whole wiki thing. As such, i honestly have little clue as to what all that means. I'm just trying to help out. The Star Trek Wikia wiki is just like an encyclopedia. Unfortunately this Tf one is nowhere near the same reference quality. I might be safer just giving up.Drmick 17:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Wait, did you just diss us? --FFN 18:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

The image requirements that FFN specified stem from a desire to improve this wiki both as a reference document, and in its respect for the intellectual property of others. If you find the rules onerous or confusing, we apologize, but it would take a lot of convincing to change our minds about them.

If you find that the humor in this wiki detracts from its quality as a reference, we can only say that we disagree.

If you would like to stay and help, the best way to learn how things are done is to look at existing pages (including image pages), click on the edit link, and see what the page looks like "behind the scenes". Failing that, consult the help pages, or ask for help here or in the community portal. JW 18:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

No, I didn't diss the people involved, it is obvious that tons of work has been put in. But compared to works like the Star Trek and Marvel Database wikia (which try to emulate their paper equivalents) Teletraan 1 does not compare (in style). If you wanted to create a Transformers printed encyclopedia, you could not simply cut and paste this wiki, whereas you could do so with the two I mentioned. Sure, most of the information you would need is here, but it would need re-wriiten from scratch (to remove the amateur humour and speculative nature of a lot of the articles). Whereas he TRek and MArvel ones stick to canon, the TF one uses the profile books as a major source, rightly or wrongly. Much like a kid that gets picked last for the team, I am more disapponted that the TF fandom don't seem to share my preferences for how a Transformers reference work should be organised. Drmick 09:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

What is canon? If you pick and choose what is canon, then that's Personal canon. For Transformers, Everything is Canon.

As for speculation, weren't you yourself speculating about Spinister? --FFN 11:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. See, that's your problem. Star Trek and Marvel have clearly defined canon. Transformers does not. Everything is canon unto itself, and sometimes different media might fit into the same canon. Profile books are canon, just like everything authorized by Hasbro is canon. The only question is: "Canon for what?"

And yes, we don't share your preferences for how we should run our Wiki.--Nevermore 12:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

From Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki, a Wikia wiki.