Talk:Unreleased toy

OK I have to stop making this, I have to sleep you know :P Well as you can see this is far from being finished and I will attend to this tomorrow, of course you can edit it, cous I have found a few probs of which I have no idea how to fix em! Thanks for your help.Dead Metal 20:18, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

What Counts?

I'm almost not sure we should even include concept art here, because there's a shitton of stuff that never got off the drawing board - I'm thinking of the movie monster TFs, that dinosaur Scramble City combiner, and all that other stuff in the back of Generations. On the other hand, the G2 Gobots WERE unreleased until they came out during RiD, and the same is more-or-less true of the Universe Seacons. I dunno. -hx 21:37, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

yyyyyyeah, concept art is questionable... --M Sipher 21:41, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Split the page. Give it an 'unproduced concepts' section. If that gorws big enough, split it off into it's own page.

The subject is broad enough... it's probably best to let it evolve organically. -Derik 22:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Since this never went anywhere on Black Rodimus' page...

We really, really need to devise a consistent way of dealing with unreleased product on characters' individual pages. I would ideally like to see it either integrated into the normal toy/merchandise lists with some kind of obtrusive "THIS NAME CAME OUT" indicator or have a separate "unreleased toys" section otherwise constructed just like the normal toy section. Opinions? -LV 22:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Subcategory at the end of "toys" but before "merchandise." -hx 22:45, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Two more Gobots??

This is the first I hear of unreleased jeeps and sports cars in the Gobots line. Anyone have pics?? --Detour 22:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

...[1] did, you can search through archive.org I guess... When did this site do down? Did it move? Steve-o's links page doesn't have a more recent address for it. -Derik 22:40, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[2] all I see here are the four that were released in the RID line... --Detour 22:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I wish I had saved it, but they were part of the massive ton of shit that the Hartmans auctioned off way back when. -hx 23:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

FortMax to the rescue! pic 1 2 3 4 And pics from an older auction: 1 2 3 4 --FortMax 00:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

So, what, you just have a big ol' 'misc_tf' folder you save stuff to? "Shit, I bet I'll want that later, enough so that I'll be willing to sort through everything in here to find it." -Derik 01:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Kind of. It's mostly pics of unreleased toys I come across, so it's mostly G2 prototypes from ebay auctions. --FortMax 04:26, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Impressive. This is the first I've heard of the jeep and sports car. Wonder why Hasbro didn't bother to release them in RID... --Detour 05:01, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

You'd think they would have - if you look at the pics of all six together, I'm pretty sure they share molds just like the original six Spychangers do... Parts of the molds might have gotten damaged over the years, though. Who can say? -hx 10:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

According to the Hartmans, the jeep and sports car couldn't hold their guns correctly. That may have had something to do with it. --FortMax 15:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Derik, I've talked to Rapido. He's been in the process of rebuilding the site, but hasn't had much time to do it. He says it will be back up eventually. --FortMax 15:12, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Unreleased toys that eventually got released

Do we list these? I'm thinking specifically about "molds that were meant for one line, canceled, then reused later but not necessarily as the same character" like RiD Bruticus, the Flipchangers, four of the Spychangers, etc. I would almost say they don't count, since they saw release in SOME form. I dunno. What do you guys think? -hx 21:14, 28 May 2008 (UTC) I don't know, i feal it's like with redecos, the toy itself was released, but that particular character/recolour never hit shelves...--Grand-majin 21:22, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

This could be tricky. How do we define "Released"? In the strictest of terms, the cancelled color scheme being used on the mold, we'd have a short list (Air Attack Primal, RID Megahead, possibly the Target Universe Voyarers, TWW Grimlock and Prowl, Alt Rumble and Ravage, and not much else. BWII BB & Starscream, Botcon Sideswipe and the upcoming Seacon redecoes are close to ATB Megatron, Uni Drench and the cancelled Energon set, and Astrotrain is Spacewarp with a new head, so those could count as well. However, the BWII Autorollers don't look a thing like their cancelled G2 releases, nor do the RID releases of the secend Gobots set, and we don't even know what colors the Flipchangers would be if they had been released in G2 (same goes for the Mutants).

So we have three definitions for "released" unreleased toys: new mold toys ended up not being used for whatever reason but were later dusted off and used in a line they weren't designed for (Autojetter, Autolauncher, Gobots set 2, G2 Flipchangers, RID Bruticus, BW Mutants), Redecoes of toys that were later released in (close to) the cancelled planned deco (ATB Megatron, Uni Spacewarp, Energon Seacons, BIAB Drench), and ones that were simply picked up as a store exclusive, released in the succeeding main line, or both (BM Air Attack Primal in RID at TRU, BM Grand Mal Megatron in RID at KB, Universe Wave 4 Ultras at Target, Alt Rumble and Ravage at Walmart, Reissue Astrotrain at HTS, and Titanium Grimlock and Prowl at TRU). --FortMax 22:21, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Soundwave pic?

Were did the Classics Soundwave concept go? Dead Metal 14:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, it was deleted because it was fan-colored. --Professor Icepick 15:18, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

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