Talk:Toy
Production Numbers
I coulda sworn that at some Botcon panel, we were told a rough number for how many toys were typically produced -- I wanna say it was 100,000. But I can't find it in my own notes. Anybody else recall this, or am I dreamin'? -- Repowers 23:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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Just to note, Headmasters are counted as one transformer, even if they are 2 toys that combine.--Grand-majin 22:40, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Um... according to what? There's no "correct" answer. -- Repowers 23:02, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
What specifically is a "Transformers toy"?
The wiki seems to have adopted a its own definition of "toy" that is a bit different than what is ordinarily thought of as what a "toy" is. For example, we put things role playing toys and R.P.M. Mini-Vehicles into the "merchandise" category. I don't disagree. Those things aren't "Transformers toys" even though if you asked a thousand people on the street, they would probably all call them "toys". But it does make me wonder if we can define what we mean by "Transformers toys". I'll start with two possible suggestions:
- A Transformers toy is meant to represent a character in Transformers fiction. An R.P.M. Mini-Vehicle does not actually represent a Transformer in fiction that has his robot mode on the bottom of a vehicle. There is no fictional Optimus Prime that transforms from a truck into a hand holding a gun. If the toy has no meaning fictionally, it is not a "Transformers toy". Where does this leave non-Transforming figures? With the exception of Action Masters, non-Transforming Transformer figures are not intended to represent non-Transforming fictional Transformers (I don't think). So I wouldn't think they count as "Transformers toys". Maybe a new category is needed.
- A more straightforward definition might be that a "Transformer toy" is anything that has an associated bio and/or tech spec. - Starfield 13:49, 27 November 2009 (EST)
- 2 is too limiting. There are probably plenty of totally legit transformers toys without a bio or tech spec. Beta Maxx comes to mind. --173.2.173.248 14:15, 27 November 2009 (EST)
- I think mini partner guys piggyback on their bulks' bio. - Starfield 15:33, 27 November 2009 (EST)
- To tell you the truth,I always disliked this categorizing. In my opinion, character pages should be separated in the sections "Action Figures" and "Merchandise," seeing as I always thought those were better terms to express what we consider to stick in the first category of the products sections of every character page. Or, for what I consider even more logical, would be to have a first section named "Action Figures" (where we stick all of the main transforming toys of the characters of the various size classes, and the action masters too) then have a section called "Other Toys" (Or just straight up called "Toys", having it contain toys of the character like the ROTF Devastator HotWheels play set thingy and whatnot) and finally having a section called "Merchandise" (for stuff like posters, Battle Cards, costumes, etc...) --Ascendron 15:42, 27 November 2009 (EST)
- We've already got a problem with definition 1 and the R.P.M. line - there's a forthcoming one that is an entirely new character who has never appeared in any of the Movie/ROTF product prior to this point. I don't know if that item has been officially announced yet, but suffice it to say, there's "merchandise" that is the only representation of characters - take the 3D card game as another example. -hx 15:53, 27 November 2009 (EST)
