Talk:Insecticon (G1)
I feel like there should be bit outlining how the Insecticons (1984) fit intot he larger concept of the Insecticon clans.
I mean, it basically requores you ignore the original reason given for their insectlike behavior in their intro episode. (Whichw as suppostion, and their identi-computer may have been damaaged on TOP of them being Insecticons already I suppose...)
It fits better witht he Insecticons considerign themselves MEgatron's allies, not his underlings. An assesment he shared. (Theys eemed to view him this way even in his intro ep.) So it's not an untenable concept- but tit is a retcon, and I'd liek to see it highlighted as such, or at least the 84 insects places relative to the retcon. -Derik 05:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I think Macabre (G1) from Target: 2006 had a bat alt-mode, rather than being an Insecticon. I'm pretty sure this was stated in an answer to a letter a few issues after Target: 2006 finished, but don't have the comics with me to check right now. --Tribimat 13:42, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- You're right - specifically, Macabre turned into "a bat-winged air current glider". Edited. --Monzo 13:53, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
While I agree there is a strong case to be made for their presence, we never see Ransack or Barrage with the Mayhems, which I think should be noted. -LV 18:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Cartoon Origin?
Not to be picky, but are we determined that they definately came from the Nemesis in the cartoon like it says? I always felt that was a little bit up in the air. Megatron says their pod crashed here before the Nemesis went down, but that's not quite the same as saying it came from it. And they don't seem to know Megatron and co. and, more, Megatron and co. don't seem to know them. Plus they never, throughout the series, really show any impulse to join-up with his troops officially or follow his orders when not actively bribed. Thoughts? -- ZacWilliam 01:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think it's probably worth mentioning here that the series bible specifically notes that thier pod was "part of the Decepticon spacecraft that jettisoned away just before the Autobots and Decepticons crash landed on Earth." - Chris McFeely 01:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- They mention their identi-computers are damaged/degraded by such a long stay on Earth.
- Really, everything points to the Insecticons having been functional on Earth for 4 million years with no other TF's... and going native/a little crazy. (which yes, means they were active on Earth both during the BEast Wars and the time Metalhawk's crew was on Earth, whatever.)
- The Insecticons are very consistent on referring to the Decepticons as 'other' (not including themselves under the Decepticon banner) and MEgatron even (in their 23nd ep IIRC) refers to them as 'our Insecticon allies.' At the time, this was just an acknowledgment that they were seperate fromt he main decepticon force. Post-universally, we now take it to means the Insecticons were Megatron's allies fromt he ancient Insecticon clans-- a view that is nonsensical when discussing the cartoon cannon in any strict sense. -Derik
