Talk:Call of the Primitives

'Quality of animation'

Is there any proof that another studio (not mentioned in this article, but generally attributed to TMS) animated this episode as opposed to Toei? All we really have going is that whomever animated this episode used completely different animation models with exaggerated porportions and styling. And is being drawn well an indication of good animation, because I don't really see much in terms of animation that's really all that. --FFN 18:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Neither do I. I would argue that Dweller In The Depths or Chaos had much better animation than COTP, and looked much better throughout because everybody was actually drawn on-model instead of being covered with ridiculous giant spikes. --Thylacine 2000 18:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

One thing that always amused me is the oft-cited image of Predaking from this episode that people use as an example of A. How awesome Predaking is in this episode (despite getting his ass kicked) and B. The animation is great. Thing is, that's a pretty bad drawing of Predaking. - FFN

Eh, while that particular image does show proportional consistency, the rest of the episode is quite well animated. Granted it's quite stylized compared to the rest of the G1 animations, it still has little to none animation errors (except Windcharger's revival and a few minor coloring mistakes) as well as the most detailed backgrounds and cels I've seen in any G1 episodes (look at the level of detail on Predaking, Sky Lynx and Trypticon particularly). --Detour 10:53, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it's plainly a different studio- the animation has a different feel to it, not just the modelwork, but shot composition in-betweening, timing, etc... it's liek the difference between Kirby and Ditko. This studio did intermittent action-scene work throughout season 3, but I think this is the only episode they did wholesale.

(I have no knowledge of studios, but my common sense tells me this ep was someone else.) -Derik 11:44, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I seem to recall someone (Monzo?) mentioning that COTP was using the Studio Ox models as opposed to the regular Dery models.--Nevermore 23:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Laserbeak and Buzzsaw

I have an observation that might move their absence out of continuity error territory: They did not originally have animal-based modes. With the Dinobots, Sky Lynx, the Predacons, the Terrorcons, Ratbat, Slugfest, Overkill, and Ravage, there is no evidence in cartoon continuity that any of them originally had non-beast alternate or primary modes. The cartoon-continuity Dinobots were in fact dinosaur-alt from the very beginning. Laserbeak, on the other hand, was seen to originally have an oval-hulled jet as his primary mode, and the same can be presumed for Buzzsaw. ZeldaTheSwordsman 15:18, 9 April 2010 (EDT)

Ashi Productions?

FWIW, This old 2ch thread claims Ashi Productions (Machine Robo) did the episode. Evan1975 12:18, 3 June 2011 (EDT)

Can't quite find it, mind copypasting it onto the discussion?TFanatic 16:01, 14 February 2012 (EST)

Jazz

It's probably complete rubbish, but IMDb credits Peter Marinker as appearing in this episode as Jazz. Jazz doesn't actually speak in this one, does he? --flicky1991 13:31, 10 March 2013 (EDT)