Talk:Transformers: Wings Universe

Female Autobots

The historical tales feature a young Kup alongside mostly characters who never appeared in the cartoon. So far, this has allowed the writers to avoid problems of relative age, since Kup is supposed to be significantly older than almost everyone in the present day. And the only familiar characters in that early timeframe are either also old or have an excuse.

What about the Female Autobots? "Flames of Yesterday" features the orange/purple and green elf ladies, and also Moonracer, the youngest-seeming Female Autobot, is also out and about. (Moonracer's bio tries to deal with this by saying that there was an accident during an upgrade so she acts like a teenager.) I am not sure how to rewrite this paragraph to accommodate them, since there are so many exceptions presented already to the "rule" given in it. --ItsWalky 10:35, 31 May 2010 (EDT)

It also makes zero mention of the fact that (so far, anyway) this is a very Elite Guard-centric set of stories, not just pre-war stories in general.

(Although thanks for creating the sucker... I'd been thinking we needed it for a while now but wasn't quite sure how to go about it.) --Jeysie 10:47, 31 May 2010 (EDT)

No problem. I do wonder if Wings of Honor deserves a franchise and toyline page (in which case this page might get folded into the franchise page or become "Wings of Honor (fiction)"), but at the moment I'm comfortable leaving it be. We'll see what happens with G2 Redux and beyond. - Jackpot 20:08, 1 June 2010 (EDT)

Shuttle scene

And as far as the shuttle scene from Timelines #4, didn't Pete say at some point that it was set in 2009 or 2010? And I think I remember him placing it somewhere around the Nexus Prime scene from TCSp1... --ItsWalky 11:15, 31 May 2010 (EDT)

http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=67730&view=findpost&p=1489241 --Jeysie 11:21, 31 May 2010 (EDT)

Thanks for digging that up. So, as far as creator intent goes, it's firmly in the 'Toon continuity, and the shuttle scene is just coincidentally strikingly similar to one that went before. There is precedent to that; in Marvel, the Predacon attack on Optimus in the UK, then Megatron in the US, for instance.--Jimsorenson 11:26, 31 May 2010 (EDT)

How loosely based is this to the cartoon?

The article says it is loosely based on the cartoon. I haven't read them, but the continuity seems pretty tight to me if they do things like recolor not-First Aid to avoid a continuity error and give a reason why the '85 Autobots appeared from seemingly nowhere after season one. - Starfield 23:54, 23 December 2011 (EST)

For an example of where Wings and Cartoon diverge, take the case of Cyclonus, Scourge, and Galvatron. They all did the things they did in the cartoon, but they did it while looking like their Universe/BotCon/Generations toys. Same with Ironhide and Ratchet, who both did all of their cartoon things while looking like their BotCon 2005 toys. --ItsWalky 00:19, 24 December 2011 (EST)

("Loosely" may be the wrong word to use.) --ItsWalky 00:22, 24 December 2011 (EST)

Y'know, particularly after that last chapter of Battle Lines, it almost seems disingenuous to me to put Wings stuff down at the bottom of the fiction sections as the most recent thing. It kinda feels like it deserves to go with the other cartoon stuff. - Chris McFeely 05:11, 24 December 2011 (EST)

I wouldn't be opposed to that. Although I would make an exception for JG1 dudes like Metalhawk, for obvious reasons. —Interrobang 08:17, 24 December 2011 (EST)

I also wouldn't be opposed to that. It feels like it belongs in the cartoon section, even if it's off in its own area, and labeled appropriately. I think we need a new note template to go above the section that explains things. --ItsWalky 09:43, 24 December 2011 (EST)

Did we ever come to a decision on this? It does seem like it'd be better suited in the G1 cartoon continuity sections. --abates 20:23, 16 November 2012 (EST)

I am not sure if a decision was reached, but if Wings stuff started getting moved to cartoon sections with the appropriate note-age, I wouldn't stop anyone. --ItsWalky 20:36, 16 November 2012 (EST)

Different bodies with no explanation based on modern toys seems to be the new normal, like Rodimus vs. Cyclonus. - Starfield 09:00, 24 December 2011 (EST)

Termination

Shouldn't Machine Wars be on the navbox?KrytenKoro (talk) 20:28, 19 June 2014 (EDT)

BotCon 2014 stuff

So, uh, it's highly very likely we have to merge all the 3H stuff into this universe, across countless articles. Everything does its damned best to smooth itself into that universe, including mentioning stuff like Tap-Out previously being dead (as seen in the Elite Guard magazine comic) but being alive now. The BotCon 2014 story is, in effect, a post-3H Universe story while also being Wings continuity. The only other contradictions are Crosscut and Glyph dying in Wings and being alive in 3H, and Windmill appearing alive after having been killed on the Sojourner's Passage's crash in 3H, but like Tap-Out's "hey I'm alive even though I was dead once" blurb in the customization class materials, apparently those are not as final as they seemed to be? --ItsWalky (talk) 23:18, 23 June 2014 (EDT)

That sounds like a good argument for renaming it to something along the lines of "3H BotCon Continuity," too. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 03:01, 24 June 2014 (EDT)