Talk:Rollbar (AOE)
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So many Rollbars
So, there are already three guys named "Rollbar" in the movieverse. Shouldn't them all be merged into just one? Or at least this one with the ROTF guy? They are so generics, they really don't need separate articles.--Fritz (talk) 21:40, 29 June 2014 (EDT)
- The other two have unique personalities, but we did the same thing with Crosshairs, so I don't see why not.Observedhalo (talk) 22:20, 5 July 2014 (EDT)
Rollbar's sole "appearance"
Should we write down the exploits of Shanes Sonic RS on this page? Rollbar is based on it.Observedhalo (talk) 22:22, 5 July 2014 (EDT)
- No. That car never became sentient. We don't list the tow truck's appearance in the film on Longarm's page, nor do we list the Sector 7 Escalandes' appearances on Stockade's page, and so forth. Just because a Transformer toy-only character borrows inspiration from a car seen in the film doesn't automatically make that Transformer that car. --Detour (talk) 02:21, 6 July 2014 (EDT)
- I see what you're saying, but we do list the Sector Seven assault buggy's appearance in the 2007 movie on Landmine's page.--DeathbotTheGreat (talk) 20:18, 31 August 2014 (EDT)
- Technically, shouldn't we list the Mike's towing truck's use in the first film for Longarm? I mean, RoS makes it clear that Longarm was the Allspark Mutation of that truck. Escargon (talk) 20:23, 31 August 2014 (EDT)
- Hmm, that film section on Landmine is indeed an odd-one-out. We need consistency, though, so that needs to be discussed and possibly changed. In the cases where characters are explicitly described as the on-screen vehicle brought to life, I wouldn't be 100% opposed to covering the vehicle's exploits, but it feels a little misrepresentative of what the film actually presents... Jalaguy (talk) 07:59, 1 September 2014 (EDT)
- I understand what you mean by it being misrepresentative of the film's depiction, but ultimately, I think Hasbro holds complete and utter authority over what is what, who is who, who becomes what in the Transformers universe. If Michael Bay says that the tow truck Mikaela drove in Mission City is a normal truck and Hasbro says it was Longarm brought to life by the Allspark, then it was Longarm. If Michael Bay says Shane's car is a normal car and Hasbro says it is an Autobot named Rollbar, then it is an Autobot named Rollbar because Hasbro is essentially God of the Transformers. --DeathbotTheGreat (talk) 10:09, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
- Except that Hasbro has never once stated that Rollbar is Shane's car. Nor was it Hasbro who said that the tow truck in the first movie became Longarm. It was the folks at IDW who wrote RoS who said that. And IDW is not greater or lesser authority on these kinds of things than the film people are. --Sabrblade (talk) 17:07, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
- Even if Hasbro didn't say it themselves or write the bios themselves, I'm sure that they had to approve it first. If Hasbro didn't want these characters to be represented this way, I'm sure at some point before the toy was released they would have stepped in and said "no".--DeathbotTheGreat (talk) 18:34, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
- Except that Hasbro has never once stated that Rollbar is Shane's car. Nor was it Hasbro who said that the tow truck in the first movie became Longarm. It was the folks at IDW who wrote RoS who said that. And IDW is not greater or lesser authority on these kinds of things than the film people are. --Sabrblade (talk) 17:07, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
- I understand what you mean by it being misrepresentative of the film's depiction, but ultimately, I think Hasbro holds complete and utter authority over what is what, who is who, who becomes what in the Transformers universe. If Michael Bay says that the tow truck Mikaela drove in Mission City is a normal truck and Hasbro says it was Longarm brought to life by the Allspark, then it was Longarm. If Michael Bay says Shane's car is a normal car and Hasbro says it is an Autobot named Rollbar, then it is an Autobot named Rollbar because Hasbro is essentially God of the Transformers. --DeathbotTheGreat (talk) 10:09, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
- Hmm, that film section on Landmine is indeed an odd-one-out. We need consistency, though, so that needs to be discussed and possibly changed. In the cases where characters are explicitly described as the on-screen vehicle brought to life, I wouldn't be 100% opposed to covering the vehicle's exploits, but it feels a little misrepresentative of what the film actually presents... Jalaguy (talk) 07:59, 1 September 2014 (EDT)
