Talk:Cyberglyphics

Okay, so here's the deal. There are a metric buttload of these we now have access to. The only one that's been positively given a meaning so far is the one for Primes, in Defiance. It doesn't match any of the ones on the figures themselves, nor does it match the absolute boodle that were revealed on the toy packaging. I'd start transcribing those, but without meanings for them I'm hesitant to set them down to filenames that would just need to be moved later. Do we have any other sources? Are any of the online games revealing glyph meanings?--Rosicrucian^Talk 00:54, 30 May 2009 (EDT)

Still no meanings, sadly. I don't know if the movie itself is even interested in assigning them. Sometime this weekend or next I think I'll do up a PDF file with the ones from the packaging and the ones on already-released figures like Chromia. I'll label them as best I can, but if people have more information it's really welcomed.--Rosicrucian^Talk 01:47, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Defiance 3, Frenzy comm link to Starscream that Optimus en route. Alliance #2, Starscream finds Frenzy's remains. Both feature heavy Cyberglyphics. --98.149.157.5 11:35, 5 July 2009 (EDT)

2007 film

So they are the same character set, Jim?--Rosicrucian^Talk 23:59, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

They sure seem to be, visually. --Jimsorenson 00:08, 9 August 2009 (EDT)

Eeeenteresting.--Rosicrucian^Talk 00:09, 9 August 2009 (EDT)

There are actually two distinct writing forms developed for the 2007 live-action Transformers film. Both are subsequently used in ROTF. An angular lettering developed by lead robot illustrator, Ben Proctor and the more free-flowing Cybertronian "glyphs" and pictograms created by graphic designers, Karen Teneyck & Martin Charles. Both are used in conjunction on the AllSpark & other Cybertronian artefacts throughout the films. Maybe if someone contacts them directly more information can be gained. See Ben Proctor's design & Karen Teneyck's design.--RATCHATT 00:15, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

I found this collage (File:Ben Proctor Alphabet.jpg) of symbols designed by Ben Procter for the films. Perhaps someone can translate it. The Latin and Gaelic on the Staff of Merlin is of particular interest. Astrobotix (talk) 07:27, 21 March 2024 (EDT)

The Cyberglyphics Code

Uh... cracked?

Scan

I found this in a $3 ROTF coloring book at Big Lots. --Monzo 09:41, 12 November 2009 (EST)

EDIT: Of course, being as it IS from a $3 coloring book, the cypher does not seem to actually hold any water, as Frenzy's subtitled sentence on this page translates as "S?? FA F G AS HDF F UALADD". Oh well... --Monzo 10:07, 12 November 2009 (EST)

...maybe those are words in Cybertronian? Seriously though, I dunno if they put that much thought into making those subtitles make sense. -Mazenoise 10:57, 12 November 2009 (EST)

Well that's swell. Frenzy really does talk in jibberish. Still, the world should know this exists. - Starfield 12:02, 12 November 2009 (EST)

That's actually a different substitution code than the other coloring book one. In fact, several of those characters have been translated as different things in other sources.--Rosicrucian^Talk 12:21, 12 November 2009 (EST)

On the other hand! The Defiance illustration says: "Comm Link Starscream Optimus en route". - Starfield 12:23, 12 November 2009 (EST)

Does Cyberglyphic text show up anywhere else in IDW that can be checked? Maybe the alpha-symbol cypher works for ROTF, but not retroactively... --Monzo 17:25, 13 November 2009 (EST)

What about that symbol on Skids? Is it supposed to be one of those? -Mazenoise 17:36, 12 November 2009 (EST)

It's not one of those, no.--Rosicrucian^Talk 17:31, 13 November 2009 (EST)

Should we enter a picture of the code into the article? What are the coloring book credits? - Starfield 19:25, 20 November 2009 (EST)

RPM Cyber Hunt Bumblebee (released in Germany). The name is "Bumblebee" in Cyberglyphics. Matches with Monzo's scan.--Nevermore 10:02, 4 December 2010 (EST)

3H reference?

What's the deal on the "Prime" Cyberglyph? Is this an intentional nod at 3H Productions, or is it coincidental? -King Starscream 16:36, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Written or spoken or both?

Is the language only written? A person I'm beta reading a TF fanfiction for thinks that it's spoken, but she used Latin. If it is spoken language, I'll let it slide, but if not, I'd like to correct her. -Juko 18:49, 4 January 2012 (EST)

Cyberglyphics. —Interrobang 18:54, 4 January 2012 (EST)

Yeah, think of it like hieroglyphics. You don't speak hieroglyphics, but you can read them with some practice.--Rosicrucian^Talk 20:59, 4 January 2012 (EST)

Thank you. I figured that, but I wanted to make sure. She had her (original) character speaking it, and I realized that no one would have been able to teach it to her, because I'm pretty sure that all the characters who knew it in Bayverse died. Thanks for your help. --Juko 22:17, 4 January 2012 (EST)

In the Death of Optimus Prime 1-shot they use pseudo-Greek for "Old Cybertronian," and describe cyberglyphics as "Old Old Cybertronian."

It's also rendered using the glyphs, not romanized. So it can be spoken, but I'd guess it sounds like the TF language in TF2007 maybe? (Except that runs into the same glyphs being reused for contemporary and ancient language in the Bayverse... oh well.)

Ancient Cybertronian languages tend to align to earth languages; the following are all dead, widely "disused" languages in TF.

• Old Cybertronian = Latin
• Destron = Japanese
• Ancient Malignus = Portugese

We also saw some ancient Cybertronian script (yet another unnamed dialect) in Dreamwave continuity (the merged Autobot/Decepticon symbol, apparently dating from Vector Sigma's origins) and it corresponds to ancient Greek.

As a guess, Old^2 Cybertronian / Cyberglyphics would probably be spoken as pseudo-Coptic. -Derik 22:48, 4 January 2012 (EST)