Talk:IP infringement

Hasbro quote

This might be useful to you: http://www.tfviews.com/news/main/hasbro-q-and-a/499 --Khajidha (talk) 15:01, 5 May 2015 (EDT)

Ooh, ta! Jalaguy (talk) 15:25, 5 May 2015 (EDT)

Just something I had saved on my user page because people kept saying that Hasbro didn't care. --Khajidha (talk) 16:23, 5 May 2015 (EDT)

Article title

Has anyone got any better suggestions for an article title, by the way? Since the article is really about the toys, not the actual act of theft. I can't come up with anything better than "IP infringing toys". (Just to make it clear, the point is to not call the article "Third-party Transformers".) Jalaguy (talk) 16:46, 5 May 2015 (EDT)

Don't know. But this page should be clearly linked to copyright, trademark and knock-off when it goes live. --Khajidha (talk) 17:00, 5 May 2015 (EDT)

I think "Unlicensed Transformers" or "Unlicensed Toys" would work well.--Spin-Out (talk) 17:38, 27 June 2015 (EDT)

Unicron.com's items

How should we address the add-on accessories produced by Unicron.com back in the years before the third-party toy industry really existed? Back then, Hasbro seemed perfectly fine with things like their Beast Machines accessories, their Golden Disks, their Unicron Stand (which even Takara has used, btw), their Energy Cubes and their Animated accessories, despite many of these still being directly based on objects from official Hasbro IP media. Only their Vector Sigma was made official, but the rest of their items weren't. --Sabrblade (talk) 23:35, 5 May 2015 (EDT)

So

Should this article go live? I think it's well-crafted enough to deserve it.--Spin-Out (talk) 18:41, 31 July 2015 (EDT)

Seconded, if my vote counts for anything. I think it's well written enough at this point. There might be some points to expand on (and get that third party page made) but it's good enough as-is. --King Starscream (talk) 15:04, 22 December 2015 (EST)

Yeah, I think if a "Third party" article can be put up (maybe as short as possible, to make it clear that it's a joke redirect?), then this is good to go live. I mean, unless Jalaguy isn't happy with it yet. --Riptide (talk) 06:44, 11 January 2016 (EST)

Article title, Part 2

I have to agree with Spin-Out in that the current title sounds kind of off-topic; titles like "Unlicensed Transformers", "Unlicensed Products" or something along those lines gets the idea across without sounding like it's being snooty about it or getting off-topic. "IP infringing item" is unspecific, as well; what does this article's scope entail? Does it only include toys? Or does it encompass all unlicensed Transformers product, toys or not? I'm thinking a move to a more specific title is in order; I'm personally feeling "Unlicensed Product", myself; especially since knockoffs already have a section here. MaximalBroadjaw (talk) 14:41, 22 July 2016 (EDT)

How exactly is 'unlicensed product' more specific than 'IP infringing item'? The current title is because it's the terminology Fun Pub used in the past. Jalaguy (talk) 15:37, 22 July 2016 (EDT)

• • Knock Offs are also IP infringing and more blatantly so. Unlicensed Figure also covers add ons. That's not to mention the legality of these items is a bit more grey than that of KOs. --BlackStarscream (talk) 20:28, 2 August 2016 (EDT)

Aaron Archer and Hasbro

So with Aaron having had a very strong opinion on the matter during his stint at Hasbro, why don't we mention his own later involvment with one of these "third party" groups?

Also, how does Hasbro's own treatment of numerous car manufacturers' intellectual property with their figures' "not-Mustang", "not-Lamborghini" or "not-Civic" alternate modes figure into this?--Nevermore (talk) 14:05, 19 May 2017 (EDT)

While there is certainly a case to be made that there is no objective difference between an almost-Lamborghini and an almost-Sunstreaker, I would argue that in reality there is a significant difference, which is that an incredibly small part of Hasbro's business is coming from people who want to put an almost-Lamborghini in their toy car collections, whereas 100% of IP theft companies' business is coming from people who want to put an almost-Sunstreaker in their Transformers collections. -LV (talk) 14:54, 19 May 2017 (EDT)

Would you opposed mentioning this aspect including the caveat you brought up? Because I think there's a difference between citing "moral" reasons for opposing 3P figures and loyalty to Hasbro.--Nevermore (talk) 12:21, 20 May 2017 (EDT)

Coincidence?

So apparently this popped up in my Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/AssTransformers/status/1640671070393860097?t=ZnQ8AzmV0WO1Y-f-R85tvg&s=19 Is it worth putting in the article? I dunno if its true or just an interpretation and Circular reporting.--Poliwag06 (talk) 10:30, 28 March 2023 (EDT)