Talk:To Die Game!

Someone in Japan loves us. This fiction has turned a line that I was going to pass on to a line that I've resolved to buy at least one of each mold from.--Rosicrucian^Talk 14:08, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

I can only assume this is Ichikawa's work. - Chris McFeely 14:19, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

At this point, it seems increasingly likely. It's almost definitely his art, and he's the go-to-guy at Takara for a lot of their pack-in fiction, to say nothing of it being very much in keeping with his writing style. If everyone else agrees, I have no qualms with putting him in as the writer for all the Alternity stuff.--Rosicrucian^Talk 14:33, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

So, like, are Jim Sorenson and Hirofumi Ichikawa now involved in some sort of Fanwank Arms Race? Will the AllSpark Almanac Volume 2 have to top this, only for Ichikawa to redouble his efforts? --ItsWalky 16:07, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

Or will we join forces? Together we will Fanwank The World! MWAH HAHA!!!--Jimsorenson 17:09, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

Umm... ewww? - Mammalian Verisimilitude 17:18, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

Title

Leaving aside the fanwankary for a moment, is there no better translation of the title? It seems really Engrishy. - Mammalian Verisimilitude 17:18, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

The title wasn't part of the fan translation - it was printed on the comic in English. I imagine it's supposed to be something like "A Game of Death". - Chris McFeely 17:20, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

And our general policy is that if something does have an English name right on it, we generally go with that rather than re-interpret.--Rosicrucian^Talk 17:25, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

Waiiit. Does this... wait. I'm tryign to wrap my head around this.

In the year 2007, after a triple-assload of time-travel beginning in the year 2003... the second half of the Binaltech continuity was rendered a self-nullifying timeloop-- but instead of being erased, it brached off of the original cartoon continuity early in the year 2005-- in the cartoon the Decepticons conquered Cybertron. In the Binaltech-U the Autobots did so, and eventually used the "off switch" to turn off just the Decepticons.

And this resulting Alternity branch timeline is NOT known as Primax 207.28 Beta (for the story where the branch occurred in 2007) OR Primax 1286.5 Kappa (for the first fictional element published in that universe in 1986) but instead is designated Primax 903.0 Beta... for the 2003 story that occurred in both Alternity continuity and the main Japanese continuity?

...well, I suppose the designations are an Axiom nexus thing. Logistically that makes sense... It just hurts my brain because it's not named after the actual 2005 branch-point... -Derik 18:25, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

By and large, yes. Except precisely how much of the Binaltech storyline actually did occur in the main Japanese continuity is terribly unclear. It didn't just suddenly branch off with Operation: Distant Thunder, the implication is that the Binaltech project fizzled out some time earlier than that, and a lot of what happened in the story never took place in the main timeline. As such, Ichikawa seems to have just given it the earliest clarifiable designator. That is not to say, mind you, that I don't think Ichikawa isn't quite using the universal stream designators correctly - after all, "Kiss Players" isn't its own universal stream, it's part of the main J-continuity, and yet here it's got its own designator. But then Sipher and Trent already did something similar with the Headmasters cartoon too, in "I, Lowtech," so perhaps these are just alternate branching versions of the series-as-we-know-them. - Chris McFeely 06:43, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

Two quibbles

Alternity beigns can't enter the timestream prior to the date when Alternity began existing, right? Isn't that the reason for the Protectors? I take that to be the only reason these characters can't interact with Return of Convoy, wince it takes place in 2005. Furthermore, I think this black Megatron is pretty blatantly the one from Return of Convoy. Does that make sense? Also, shouldn't Primax 406.3 Eta be the bios for both Protoform Optimus and Starscream? Chip 21:58, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

Primax means it's G1 continuity family. 4 means April, 06 means 2006, 3 means the third day, Eta means radio drama. Thus, Kiss Players.--Rosicrucian^Talk 22:38, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

Erk. I meant the other timeline they visited. Oops. Chip 23:03, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

That one... maybe. Hell if I can remember the exact release date of those toys, but you could well be on to something.--Rosicrucian^Talk 23:08, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

Oh, my! Yes, you are quite right - I had totally forgotten that the Alternity can't interfere with time prior to 2007. And Megatron was one of the bosses in Mystery of Convoy, wasn't he? Yeah, I wasn't 100% sure (after all, we saw Magnus looking at Prime's dead body, and Prime didn't die in the Alternity's origin universe), but now I am, this isn't the Megatron I thought it was. - Chris McFeely 06:43, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

You fight Megatron at the VERY end of MoC but he's the size of a combiner and in his original handgun form - is it possible this is some sort of giant Megatron battlemech, or Megatron infused with Alternity energy or something? Hooper_X 08:03, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

Or just really big, the way Fort Max can be standard-sized, utterly giganamous, or anywhere in-between, depending on the continuity? - Mammalian Verisimilitude 10:06, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

FOOL! Megatron can be any size he wants! -- Semysane 15:32, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

Also, Megatron isn't an Alternity. He's powered by Hypertherion or whatever it's called, the cosmic monster. He's just mimicing the Alternity ability to exist across dimensions. He can dick around in his own timeline as much as he wants. -hx, at work.