Talk:Transformers Legends (mobile game)

Featured characters box

Is there a way to modify this so that the characters on each side are arranged in two or more columns? Or could we get separate Autobot and Decepticon tables with columns for each level of rarity? Having a two column table that stretches over three screens is less than ideal. --Khajidha 14:24, 26 April 2013 (EDT)

Slipstream

Why is Slipstream linked to the WFC character when everyone else is G1? Wouldn't this represent the creation of a G1 Slipstream? --KilMichaelMcC 16:58, 26 April 2013 (EDT)

New Universe?

I dunno. I've not played this, but it kinda seems like we're looking at more redesigns/amalgams... are we looking at a Bot Shots/Kre-O situation here? Would splitting them into (Legends) be a thing to do? --M Sipher 03:12, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

The game seems VERY intended to be G1 to me. To the point where it would feel a bit weird to pretend it wasn't. Then again it blends in a lot of Modern toyline stuff. Arcee is really the only merger I've seen most of it is pretty straight G1. A few of the Bios are from FoC toys but the vast bulk are just the G1 bios, pretty exactly which would make for a ton of really unnecessary pages . Art is G1 pretty much across the board with some of CHUGUR toy influence. The intention is very clearly to be Modern G1 in the same way the IDW comics are IMO. But the execution makes me want to say it could also be a very G1y branch of Alligned. Folks who have played the game a ton what do you think?--ZacWilliam 05:59, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

I've not played it a ton, but it does seem like it's intended to be as G1 as it can possibly make itself. Unnecessary is the word, I think. - Chris McFeely 06:54, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

I haven't played it either, but I've seen pretty much all of the character art posted on Tumblr, and it sure looks pretty blatantly G1 to me. Some characters have new bodies, there's a Slipstream, Elta is a motorcycle and Arcee borrows from Prime, but still. --KilMichaelMcC 07:20, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

I think it is clearly intended to be G1; I think a case could be made to split it off as its own universe, but due to the nature of the product all that would get us would be dozens of virtually empty character pages, which unlike Bot Shots wouldn't even have their own dedicated merchandise to keep track of. (Sort of like all those Chinese MMO characters we still don't know anything about, although at least those characters are unique...) Anyway, keep it like it is, IMO. -LV 11:00, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

As stated above, the bios are a blend of FoC and G1 with a dash of Movie/Prime thrown in for good measure; even the Super Rare versions of characters keep the same bio while having updated G1/Aligned art. The only exception is Slipstream, whose bio is explicitly Animated Slipstream's, clone and all (and artwork similar to her WfC appearance). Magaroja 12:20, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

Why WAS Bot Shots split, again? Kre-O I get - what fiction there is has the characters actually made of blocks and so forth in a way that clearly isn't true for any other universe - but what's the reasoning for not just making BS part of Aligned (whose aesthetic already varies wildly between WfC/FoC and Prime) that doesn't also apply to, say, breaking IDW out of G1? - SanityOrMadness 11:55, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

According to the Bot Shots page, there is "unique fiction related to the game". I'm assuming this means something similar to the Kre-O characters actually being made of bricks - like the game mechanics actually exist within the fictional world. --Khajidha 12:37, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

Principally, that if Bot Shots were going to be incorporated into another universe, it's not obvious which one it would be. Prime and WF/FOC designs are probably the least-represented of all the influences the Bot Shots toys have. Also, the Bot Shots have bios, and many of them don't match up especially well with their Aligned portrayals. -LV 13:36, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

That doesn't usually stop these things being mashed together. And as for on-package bios, they're wildly inconsistent even in the "mainline" toys - see Generations Orion Pax for a good example, which has an Aligned bio with him as an archivist (with pitiful stats!) in spite not only of the design being based on the IDW "super-cop" Pax, but of having an IDW comic packed-in that doesn't match up with the bio at all!

(And again, there are plenty of IDW guys who bear little to no resemblance to their top-of-article summaries, yet they don't get split out. Bot Shots should go in Aligned, since Hasbro's stated desire is for all their stuff to be Aligned-based unless explicitly shown to be otherwise.) - SanityOrMadness 21:43, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

I'm not interested in having this conversation as a proxy war over whether IDW should be split out of G1. -LV 22:34, 2 May 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, no. We're neither merging Bot Shots characters or splitting IDW out of G1. --M Sipher 19:53, 3 May 2013 (EDT)

Back to the point at hand - the current in-game event overlays the primary plot of Beast Hunters into the game's quasi-G1 setting. Shockwave accidentally invents the Terrorcons whilst mucking about with "ancient CNA", but in this version, he tasks the Predacons to hunt down and capture the Terrorcons. Different enough from the mainline of Prime, and let's face it, none of it explicitly contradicts anything we know about any other G1 timeline. The G1 Terrorcons have never had an origin story per se, so I'm actually kind of completely okay with letting this G1 and appending their pages accordingly. (really, the only things that don't sync exactly are the lack of Cutthroat and everyone else having their Prime names, but that's basically a "Slingshot/Quickslinger" issue IMO.) -hx 14:37, 16 May 2013 (EDT)

What the wiki needs is a "Hodgepodge continuity family" for all the hodgepodge continuities. - Starfield 22:10, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

Weapons

Parly related to the "New Universe" discussion below (though I agree, G1 seems to be the right home for this), I think it would make sense to say something about the Weapons in-game. I don't know if it warrants the same treatment as the WFC/FOC weapons of giving each one its own page, since there are a LOT of repetitve names (Autobot Dagger 1, Decepticon Dagger 1, Autobot Dagger 2, Arcee's Weapon, Arcee's Weapon 2), with nothing much to say other than to show the visual (which would start to push the bounds of fair-use) and the stats, which are boring.

BUT, there are some interesting continuity mash-up things going on that might bear mentioning, a few quick highlights include:

Ratchet's Weapon is his Prime-Toy's blade Magnus's Weapon is his Animated Hammer Prowl has a crazy mash-up Nightstick/Katana/Gun seemingly trying to double homage his G1-Cop and Animated-Ninja'ness Wheeljack is rocking his Prime swords Flamewar as her Energon-as-Botcon-Toy Bow

Most of the weapons are normal G1 designs, but the weapons definitely indicate an Aligned-bleed even more so than any of the charcater designs (Most of which seem to be driven by a "Earth Mode Required" {Unless your an animal...or Cyclonus} art-approach.).

Depending on what you guys WANT the weapons section to look like (even if you want to create pages for them ala WFC), I'm happy to put some hours into this, I'm quite in love with the game (the art especially). --Destrongerlupus 14:22, 16 May 2013 (EDT)

I was thinking about this myself - I don't know that "Autobot dagger" or "Decepticon rifle" needs a specific entry, above and beyond what we already have (we have a page for maces, maybe one for swords?). I'd certainly be amenable to appending relevant existing pages with game info, though. (And anyone who wants to make an article for Rifles is a braver sort than I.) -hx 14:33, 16 May 2013 (EDT)

I thiiiiink I'd prefer to see the So-And-So's Weapon cards included with the Legends section of the character's own wiki page, simply because there's so little to them. I mean, they don't even have names. As for the rest of the weapons, I don't know that I'd consider them worth mentioning outside of the Legends page in general.

I DO think we need much better coverage of Legends in general, even if it's mostly stubby stuff that links away to the very thorough Wikia wiki. -LV 19:59, 16 May 2013 (EDT)

I agree, although I basically haven't had the time to do much. I'll try and maybe flesh it out a bit. And yeah, include their special weapons on the character pages. It's just another card to collect in the game, so whatever, you know? -hx 09:32, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

Cool, I'll see about adding them to character specific pages where notable, and using them to add a little flavor to the general "Mace" pages and whatnot. Thanks for the support and direction!--Destrongerlupus 14:32, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

Character Art

First things first: are screenshots from apple devices allowed? If so, Would it be okay to start a gallery of the character art? Maybe one each for vehicle and robot modes. I have all of the 1's and 2's and people can add any art that is missing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AKSpartan1661 (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}. 00:01, 20 May 2013 (EDT)

Destubbing?

Other than keeping it regularly updated with the latest events, I think this is pretty much as thorough a discussion of the game as the Wiki warrants. Any further details should probably be left to the dedicated Wikia site. (Incidentally, I'm of the mind that Events that recreate specific cartoon episodes should not be written up further on character pages, while those that contain an original storyline should.) -hx 10:27, 1 July 2013 (EDT)

Biased articles

Can we at least try to keep some of the notes in the articles a little more neutral?

I can't help but feel lines like:

"Kind of suck" and the sarcastic, "Capture a bunch of Slapdash's to get a decent Slapdash!", and even the "Seriously it's weird."

Kind of stand out as more opinionated and critical than the majority of the wiki.

Said comments can be especially critical with the fact that these "Plots" are rarely related yet are being treated as though this is all one story.

That said, I think that whether the mechanics of the game are undesirable or not, we should still stick to just giving the information instead of outright expressing disdain and/or confusion for it. It makes it look more presentable. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spenny (talk • contribs){{#if:| {{{2}}}|}}.

Sign your posts.

The wiki is disdainful and opinionated about all kinds of stuff; apparently the editors here who care enough about Legends to write it up also don't think much of it (this is also surprisingly common here). It doesn't bother me much in this case, although I have no opinion on the game at all, because there is a very thorough and toneless wiki dedicated to the game on Wikia, and we link to it extensively. -LV 11:48, 30 October 2013 (EDT)

The TF Legends wiki is only unbiased so long as you don't venture into the forums there, which seem to be full of people who are not enjoying the game but can't stop playing it. I agree with Spenny's comment about the plots though — we could stand to maybe tone down the snark a bit on some of the articles, and I don't think the plots are meant to be taken in a chronological order. I originally stuck a note on The Colossus War to mention that All Hail Galvatron in which Megatron is reformatted into Galvatron appears to have taken place since the previous episode. Presumably if they even get around to doing part 2 of Heavy Metal War, it'll be set immediately after part 1. --abates 16:08, 30 October 2013 (EDT)

The TF Legends wiki is only unbiased so long as you don't venture into the forums there - well, sure, but that's true of all forums anywhere. The wiki itself is quite neutral. -LV 16:21, 30 October 2013 (EDT)

As one of those biased contributors, there's mostly two things happening here: 1 - straight up summaries of the events would be dreadfully boring. Like "A picture of Megatron" boring. 2 - when there's stuff that's dubious from a narrative or conceptual standpoint, TFWiki has been calling that out for years - Dull surprise, Blastification, many many of the articles about the G1-era coloring and story books, etc. That episode where they included Roadburner when they pretty clearly meant Roadbuster deserves mockery. They're trying. The last handful of episodes demonstrate that. But ultimately, this thing is arguably the crassest cash grab in a franchise literally built off of grabbing cash. And the game itself is unforgivably bad. Like the other awful TF games that the wiki has dumped on in the past - Mystery of Comboy, that J-exclusive PS2 one with Zel Quartz, and so on. At the end of the day, we're fans doing fan things, not impartial observers, and certainly not a Hasbro/Tomy/Mobage/IDW/whoever PR department. (the fact that apparently Derik and I have done a great deal of the heavy lifting on the episode pages probably has a lot to do with it, though.) -hx 09:27, 31 October 2013 (EDT)

Scaring up some art credits?

I've heard from people who should know (e.g. friends of the artists) that various well-known TF artists have been doing the line art for TFL, which is then digitally colored in the TFL house style. I know I've heard Dan Khanna's name brought up in this context. I wonder who we'd need to talk to at Mobage to get a list of artist credits, or if they'd even be willing to give over such info. The art is clearly a big selling point to lots of fans. -hx (talk) 10:33, 25 November 2013 (EST)

Linking to TF Legends events on individual characters' pages?

Alright, so first off, I'm going to say I've never played this game, so I don't really know how it functions, and I only have a loose understand as to how the "plots" of each campaign happen based on what I've read on articles. Second, it's always been my personal motto that, I should be able to go on a character's page, and from there be linked to every single instance of that character's appearance in any media, regardless of how incidental or trivial. That being said, a lot of characters that are available for Raid cards in a specific event are not listed as having taken part of that event on their page. I don't really know how to handle adding the fact that they were involved in that campaign since, again, I never experienced playing the game. Should I add something like

Hound was available as a raid card in Harvest of the Insecticons

or should I put it in more in-fiction like, "Hound participated in a battle against the Insecticons. Harvest of the Insecticons"

--Ascendron (talk) 16:04, 25 February 2014 (EST)

I'd favour the latter. The reader can always click through to the event page for more information. --abates (talk) 16:50, 25 February 2014 (EST)

The issue is that some characters are described as being part of the action, while others are sometimes just "you get this card as a reward for doing stuff" and there's no real mention of them in the little plot synopsis. But "Hound was involved in this battle" works for me. -hx (talk) 20:58, 25 February 2014 (EST)

Error

I don't know if this has been encountered before, but when I battle Huffer and Warpath in campaign mode, they are consistently called Slugfest and Overkill, respectively.

Update: Every campaign boss is now either called Slugfest, Overkill or Scourge. Avalanche (talk) 15:24, 14 April 2015 (EDT)