Talk:Triumvirate
"After the (second) death of Straxus a coalition of leaders calling themselves the Triumverate seized control of the Decepticons."
I admit I haven't read a lot of the UK material, but I have read a lot of what the wiki says about it! Is this necessarily true, or is this just an assumption? Straxus was "Lord High Governor of Polyhex". Was he governor of one providence? Could the Triumverate have been above Straxus in Helex? The name of the story is "The Fall and Rise of the Decepticon Empire" meaning that the Decepticon Empire came to and end when the Trimverate was killed. Just something I'm trying to sort out. Just after Straxus's second death, Ratbat was still fuel auditor. Who was Ratbat serving under? Did the Trimverate take over that quickly or were they always in power being lazy when their governor of Polyhex was killed? As I understand the chronolgy, Thunderwing petitioned Decepticon High Council to be leader before the Trimverate was killed. How does that shake out? Was Thunderwing petitioning to be leader of the army of the Empire that was ruled politically in Helex by the Triumverate?
In short, I am doubting that Straxus was ever overall leader of the Decepticon Empire. I'm thinking he was one governor serving under someone else. - Starfield 13:26, 16 November 2009 (EST)
- Wasn't the whole point of the confrontation with Megastraxus the fact that these jokers were running the Decepticons right into the ground?--RosicrucianTalk 13:36, 16 November 2009 (EST)
- The Middle Years described Trannis as supreme ruler of the Decepticons, who was killed in an all-or-nothing move from the Autobots, after which Straxus succeeded him and beat down the Autobots' temporal, small victory. Geewunling 13:44, 16 November 2009 (EST)
- That story says Trannis took control of the Decepticon army, which is a strange way to put it. Does the "Decepticon army" = "the Decepticons"? Maybe not. They were the rulers of Cybertron in that period. It would make sense if they had political leadership different than military leadership. - Starfield 13:52, 16 November 2009 (EST)
- Have we ever seen evidence of a significant population of Decepticon civilians in this continuity?--RosicrucianTalk 14:00, 16 November 2009 (EST)
- No. They must not be very interesting! The Decepticon High Council comes close. - Starfield 14:06, 16 November 2009 (EST)
- Have we ever seen evidence of a significant population of Decepticon civilians in this continuity?--RosicrucianTalk 14:00, 16 November 2009 (EST)
- That story says Trannis took control of the Decepticon army, which is a strange way to put it. Does the "Decepticon army" = "the Decepticons"? Maybe not. They were the rulers of Cybertron in that period. It would make sense if they had political leadership different than military leadership. - Starfield 13:52, 16 November 2009 (EST)
- Megastraxus thought he was Megatron at the time. He was lost for four million years, woke up, had some dealings in Polyhex. Eventually he came to the actual capital of Helex, where he saw how the Empire was being run first hand. That made him angry, so usurped these guys, causing the Decepticon Empire to fall. - Starfield 13:52, 16 November 2009 (EST)
- The Middle Years described Trannis as supreme ruler of the Decepticons, who was killed in an all-or-nothing move from the Autobots, after which Straxus succeeded him and beat down the Autobots' temporal, small victory. Geewunling 13:44, 16 November 2009 (EST)
What I would really like to know is, is it accurate to say the Triumverate took control after the death of the Governor of Polyhex? Does the comic say that? Yes, the Middle Years says that Straxus was the ruler of the whole of Cybertron. But that was written years earlier, and I don't think it takes into account the bigger picture. Did Furman write that? I think it is more likely that in this comic, "The Fall and Rise of the Decepticon Empire", that Straxus was always just a regional governor under the Triumverate (who were probably located at Decepticon Imperial Headquarters all along), who had a very loose control of the empire leaving Straxus and Scorponok (before he left Cybertron in Headmasters) mostly independent in their arenas. Just look at the title. The Decepticon Empire fell with the Triumverate and rose again under Megatron. So I think the little text story was retconned a bit. Hey, I'm gonna have to read these issues at some point. - Starfield 13:56, 9 March 2011 (EST)
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[edit]I just realized that back in July, the Ask Sideways incarnation of Ask Vector Prime referred to "The Triumvirate" with the correct spelling of the English word. Granted, it is Sideways, but is it good enough for us to move this page to the proper spelling? S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 20:53, 19 December 2015 (EST)
- Sideways was deliberately misinformative; I don't see why that would lead us to questioning his spelling. I see no reason not to take the opportunity to move this page, so long as we keep a note about how it was originally (mis)spelled in the comics. -Foffy the Sheep (talk) 21:42, 19 December 2015 (EST)

