Talk:Unknown Constructicon shovel

I'm pretty sure this is a second Scrapper. --ItsWalky 22:09, 3 November 2009 (EST)

But Scrapper forms a whole arm, and this guy is just a hand. Aside from Ze Little One (who turns into a different vehicle than his robot mode double) none of the other Constructiclones have been differently sized compared to each-other.Carrion 23:22, 3 November 2009 (EST)

It looks to me like Scrappers form both hands and neither arm. --ItsWalky 23:27, 3 November 2009 (EST)

Would it have killed DreamWorks, Mr. AWESOME and the special effects boys at Industrial Light & Magic to have some blasted consistency between which Constructicon was which, and which ones formed Devastator. This. is. MADNESS. --G1MarvelBlaster 21:08, 4 November 2009 (EST) (Who likes making wiki-links way too much)

I think the film makes it pretty clear that there's well over a dozen Constructicons who all share 6 basic body forms (I say 6 because Overload is never seen elsewhere), and far more than 7 of them form Devastator. --FFN 21:11, 4 November 2009 (EST)

He's not another Scrapper. Scrapper has giant wheels. This unnamed dude has treads. He's not Rampage either. Different shovel. --ItsWalky 16:00, 5 November 2009 (EST)

Alt mode

Um, doesn't this guy transform into a Bulldozer? IIRC, there are still some differences between a bulldozer and a shovel/loader. --TX55^TALK 02:47, 6 November 2009 (EST)

Yeah, a "shovel" would be if it had a scoop on a long articulated arm. This guy is a bulldozer. -- Repowers 19:10, 23 December 2009 (EST)

Alt-Mode

This dude isn't a bulldozer, it is a track loader that is based on a heavily modified Caterpillar bulldozer of which the model is either a D7, or D8 and I guess the movie producers modified it to such an extent (older track loader arms, large wheel loader buckets) that it resembles a large track loader of unknown make (Probably Caterpillar) as shown when transforming with Hightower (Kobelco Crawler Crane).

Scrapmetal is him

Although the Studio Series one is an excavator, this guy might be Scrapmetal. Hasbro confirms Scrapmetal transforming into a bulldozer. The "shovel" is a bulldozer. The shovel isn't a track loader also but a bulldozer, so it's safer to assume it's him Memeuser17 (talk) 10:05, 29 November 2018 (EST)

...he turns into a Volvo excavator in the film as well. Escargon (talk) 10:11, 29 November 2018 (EST)

Merge Scrapmetal and Unknown Constructicon shovel?

Okay so I happened to read back over that "Behind-the-Design"[1] post mentioned on Hasbro Pulse for SS Devastator and discovered something I didn't pick up on the first time reading it. Since Skipjack has been more or less retconned as being Devastator's leg and we've made note of this on just about every page he's mentioned on on the wiki, I had also discovered that Mike B. and other Hasbro designers consider Unknown Constructicon shovel and Scrapmetal the same character.

"However, when watching the scene we noticed that the left arm was formed by two figures: Scrapmetal and Hightower."

Would this basically mean that they are the same characters with the same robot designs and different vehicles? (Animation errors of Scrapmetal using Scrapper's CGI model aside). I also see this as Hasbro more or less doing their classic "not quite the alternate mode, but close enough" schtick, much like Scalpel being a lense meter in the film and a microscope in toy form or Nitro Zeus being a different jet in the film when compared to his toy or an even more classic one WWII Bumblebee/WWII Hot Rod being entirely different alternate forms to their appearance in the film, to name a few examples.

I wanna see what everyone else thinks and see whether it would be worth merging the two pages and making note of this development. Fanofcoolstuff27 (talk) 19:06, 5 November 2020 (EST)