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Go-Bots

Considering this wiki long ago decided to leave any non-TF-related Go Bots material to other wikis is there a reason the Go Bots comic is listed in the current release section? Indridcold13 (talk) 23:44, 7 January 2019 (EST)

Click the link to find out. Escargon (talk) 00:04, 8 January 2019 (EST)

I think he's asking why the comic series is included on here at all when it's not a Transformers comic nor tied to any Transformers media. Like, why not have GBWiki do that instead? Its main page has a News section; for lack of a "Current Releases" section of its own (understandibly so, of course), the comic series name and issue number could go there instead. --Sabrblade (talk) 00:19, 8 January 2019 (EST)

So we'd be advertising our side-wiki even less than we already do, then. Escargon (talk) 00:57, 8 January 2019 (EST)

Why not do both? It'll only be an issue for a little while. --M Sipher (talk) 00:58, 8 January 2019 (EST)

Adding icons for the IDW Hasbro and GoBots wikis

There was some discussion on the Allspark thread a couple of weeks ago about adding icons for the two sister wiki to the Main Page alongside our Twitter and Tumblr links (and also remove the Blogspot link) with a couple of mockups made to show what it would look like. You can find the two examples in the couple of posts starting here. Any feedback welcome! --abates (talk) 18:47, 15 June 2019 (EDT)

I think the version that explicitly names the other sites is preferable, but I'm not convinced by the alignment of the text over the icons in your example. You'd have to play around with it some. --Broadside (talk) 21:43, 15 June 2019 (EDT)

Yeah, I kinda threw that together just roughly to put across the idea. I'll be doing a sandbox to get all that right before going live. --abates (talk) 02:25, 16 June 2019 (EDT)

Sandbox here --abates (talk) 06:14, 18 June 2019 (EDT)

I wish we had a third social media account to fill that gap in the middle and make the text look less off-center, but I like it in concept. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 10:25, 18 June 2019 (EDT)

I kind of feel like captions indicating what the other wikis are would be preferable, but I'm not sure how to make that not look like ass... (Also, is the TFWiki.info bit actually needed?) --Broadside (talk) 13:49, 18 June 2019 (EDT)

Yeah, I feel like the ".info" bit can be safely axed. Locoman (talk) 14:09, 18 June 2019 (EDT)

I dunno, if we're paying for another domain name for branding purposes we should keep noting it. --abates (talk) 16:50, 18 June 2019 (EDT)

Why are we paying for another domain name? Just to stop anyone else taking it? Because I don't think anyone actually defaults to .info... --Broadside (talk) 17:18, 18 June 2019 (EDT)

Yeah, I think that's why. A situation where Wikia/Fandom grabs tfwiki.info or whatever and points it at their Transformers Wikia would be a recipe for confusion. --abates (talk) 17:31, 18 June 2019 (EDT)

Mm. But if that's the only reason we have it, why have a link on the main page that's just a redirect to itself? --Broadside (talk) 22:28, 18 June 2019 (EDT)

I guess it's a case of it being added back when we left Wikia (We had an announcement that linked to both URLs) and the link was kept as the Main Page changed. We could perhaps instead note it on the Community Portal page. --abates (talk) 22:48, 18 June 2019 (EDT)

Yeah, I don't think there's any reason we need the link on the front page. Plus I like the balance of the text in the current sandbox. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 01:28, 19 June 2019 (EDT)

Any more input on this or can I throw it up on the main page? --abates (talk) 21:56, 26 June 2019 (EDT)

I feel like the icon that Ravage should be resting his paw on ought to be the Twitter icon. --Sabrblade (talk) 23:56, 26 June 2019 (EDT)

Twitter gets pretty snippy about having things interact with their logo/icon, while Tumblr sees to be more chill about it, hence why they're positioned the way they are. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 23:59, 26 June 2019 (EDT)

Did you experiment at all with text captions for the icons? --Broadside (talk) 17:09, 27 June 2019 (EDT)

I've added a version with text captions to the sandbox, though I'm not sure it looks as good as without. --abates (talk) 18:24, 27 June 2019 (EDT)

Yeah, the text just looks out of place and unbalanced. --M Sipher (talk) 20:11, 27 June 2019 (EDT)

It might look more balanced if the Twitter and Tumblr icons had text beneath them too, but one could also argue that all four having text would look too cluttered. --Sabrblade (talk) 20:16, 27 June 2019 (EDT)

Add a Breaking News Section

I say that they need to add a Breaking News Section for Breaking News in the Transformers Section. →806mtson (talk) 21:56, 19 November 2020 (EST)

We're not really a "news" kind of site. --M Sipher (talk) 22:58, 19 November 2020 (EST)

Adding a link to the "TFWiki Community" Wordpress site.

Wouldn't make since as it is technically a part of the site, and there isn't a link to it anywhere else on the wiki?DDog (talk) 00:03, 20 November 2020 (EST)

Also on the nitpicky side, shouldn't the illustration of SG Ravage be waving as he says he is when you hover over it? It kind of bugs me.DDog (talk) 00:03, 20 November 2020 (EST)

Community portal?

I know this isn't exactly the right place to ask this, but what happened to the community portal? I clicked the link in the sidebar and it came up as "create this page".--Khajidha (talk) 08:58, 25 November 2020 (EST)

Okay, looking around a bit at places where I know it is linked from I have discovered that the sidebar links to Transformers Wiki:Community portal and the actual page is Transformers Wiki:Community Portal. Notice the capitalization difference. --Khajidha (talk) 09:01, 25 November 2020 (EST)

Yeah, the sidebar appears to have reset to a default, dropping the custom links to current franchises and changing to an incorrect capitalisation for the community portal. Once the sidebar's fixed we should be good. Jalaguy (talk) 09:06, 25 November 2020 (EST)

Huh, looks like it fixed itself? --abates (talk) 14:28, 25 November 2020 (EST)

Fall of Cybertron toyline

I find it odd that Fall of Cybertron is the only franchise in the Series Information featurebox to not have a link to its own toyline. Even the original War for Cybertron has a redirect pointing to its five toys released on the Generations line. So wouldn't it make sense to also include a redirect for the FOC section of the Generations line under the FOC franchise here? Fritz (talk) 21:21, 25 November 2020 (EST)

Self Transforming Optimus Prime toys

Any articles on the self-transforming Optimus Prime G1 toy which cost $700?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0SEYM9jHVg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mzawutang (talk • contribs).

It wouldn't get its own article, though it's not absolutely clear where in our Optimus Prime (G1)/suite it would go. It blurs the line between toy and merchandise, and if it's a toy at all it would probably go on the "old" toy page simply because it isn't Generations. Not helping matters is that the Robosen and Hasbro Pulse websites each show different packaging with different product line names. --Thylacine 2000 (talk) 09:47, 19 October 2021 (EDT)

Family Guy Cutaway Gag

I remember seeing this cutaway skit on Youtube from Family Guy themed around Transformers. Something about a Decepticon named Negatron who turns into a canoe. Is it worth making a page about at all? GoodMudkip (talk) 15:48, 28 September 2021 (EDT)

Lots of other media references Transformers. We don't include any of it, because it's not official. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 15:53, 28 September 2021 (EDT)

^ Correct. We don't cover other shows making reference to Transformers unless it's an official collaboration with Hasbro. The only exception is we'll sometimes make brief mention on a voice actor's page if they reprise their character for a parody, such as David Kaye voicing Megatron in Robot Chicken. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 15:55, 28 September 2021 (EDT)

Funny you should mention the thing about David Kaye, since the skit I'm talking about had Frank Welker reprise his role as Megatron. I don't know if that makes it eligible to make a page about, but I thought it was worth bringing up. GoodMudkip (talk) 16:06, 28 September 2021 (EDT)

Still not worth a page. And we already have a note on Welker's page about him reprising Megatron and Soundwave in parodies on other shows. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 16:09, 28 September 2021 (EDT)

Gotcha, thanks for clarifying. GoodMudkip (talk) 16:11, 28 September 2021 (EDT)

Potential removal of Twitter from the "We're also on these websites:" area

Yeah...about that. FigureGunplaFan (talk) 23:13, 17 November 2022 (EST)

Let's hold off until something actually happens. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 23:18, 17 November 2022 (EST)

Are you not making a premature call here? S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 23:19, 17 November 2022 (EST)

Yes, I know it's premature, but still. FigureGunplaFan (talk) 23:21, 17 November 2022 (EST)

We should definitely wait until Twittergeddon actually takes place before removing the link. (So in about 2 or 3 days) --abates (talk) 23:41, 17 November 2022 (EST)

Honestly I'm really scared about this.--Poliwag06 (talk) 04:25, 18 November 2022 (EST)

No. It will be fine in the end and this whole bit of conversation will look silly in a few months time. Escargon (talk) 07:42, 18 November 2022 (EST)

UPDATE: So, about that. (Yes, I know it's still premature again) FigureGunplaFan (talk) 05:41, 18 February 2023 (EST)

It's still fine. Escargon (talk) 10:47, 18 February 2023 (EST)

Fan interactions

So this happened, and it kinda jogged something in my head about what extent fan interactions like this can influence the wiki. How should I treat this next time I run into one of them?--Poliwag06 (talk) 20:38, 9 January 2023 (EST)

Nothing. This is commentary from a random writer on random fanart; it is not official material or something that clarifies it. Saix (talk) 21:29, 9 January 2023 (EST)

Icon change (or not.)

I assume that everyone's thoughts are "(in Dan from Dan VS' voice) I don't care how he rebranded Twitter, we're NOT changing the icon and its name." FigureGunplaFan (talk)

I see no reason to indulge that stale bong rip with bad hair plugs and an apartheid-earned trust fund. --M Sipher (talk) 04:37, 28 July 2023 (EDT)

This day in history

The "This Day in History" box takes up a lot of space on the front page as the date pages have grown in length over the years. What's the feeling about having it reduce so that the box just shows a handful of particularly notable items with a "More" link so people can click through to the full list?

The main drawbacks I see are (a) disagreements over what constitutes a notable item, and (b) some dates might not have anything approaching a notable item. --abates (talk) 18:16, 27 October 2023 (EDT)

GO to top feature

I've noticed that the "GO to top!" feature that's been added, while cool, is a bit buggy. especially on mobile where it just doesn't even show up when you're at the bottom of the page and on computer is shows up at the top of the page and then disappears after you scroll a bit before coming back when you've hit the bottom of a page. I was just wondering if this was still being worked on? Carno (talk) 12:03, 6 November 2023 (EST)

You need to clear your browser cache. Press Alt + F5 or Shift + F5. As for mobile, it's probably the same thing and the issue will resolve itself in due time. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 12:08, 6 November 2023 (EST)

An "Energon Universe" wiki

Greetings, everyone! I know it's too soon to ask, but just as a wiki based on IDW's Hasbro Universe was made, we now need to make a new wiki based on the "Energon Universe" by Image/Skybound. I ask you for help because the process of using MediaWiki is very different from using Fandom. Besides, I can't include lists of characters and story arcs on Wikipedia, as much as I can make other articles there. Thank you so much. Fico Puricelli (talk) 17:24, 6 December 2023 (EST)

There's no point to a separate wiki because we're covering the Energon Universe in its entirety. Saix (talk) 10:13, 8 November 2023 (EST)

Series

Following discussion on the Discord about the Series section taking up too much page real estate, I've put together a couple of solutions on a disused sandbox. I'm leaning towards take 2 or 3, since take 1 doesn't really fix the problem. Takes 2 and 3 look the same when collapsed, but behave differently once you hit the toggle to expand. Any thoughts? —TheLastGherkin (talk) 06:30, 23 March 2025 (EDT)

For me, the problem with the series listing has never been that it takes up too much space, it's that the series are laid out in an arbitrary chronological way that means it's always easier just to google/search for the specific series than use it as an index—even as someone who's familiar with the franchise's timeline. If the list was fit for purpose, the size of it wouldn't be an issue, in my opinion. For that reason, I prefer take 1, as the dropdowns make it less efficient to use as an index. The way you've condensed the Generations toylines is great, by the way. —wadapan (talk) 08:41, 23 March 2025 (EDT)

I agree with Wadapan on take 1 being the best. (Also, minor editing note, you forgot to add a “Toyline | Cartoon” section under Cyberworld.) - IGEBM13 (talk) 09:08, 23 March 2025 (EDT)

Yeah, "space" isn't really a problem here. At least, the downside of how much page space it takes is extremely minor (if this was up top it would definitely be an issue, but that far down? Being basically the last thing on the page? Nah), and the downside of reducing big obvious easy navigability of major franchises by using a bunch of dropdowns that rely on people already knowing where the series they're "after" sits in the sorting rather than being right there is, well, way more sided-downwards. And you know I'm all for watching out for pagebloat. I'm good with take 1. --M Sipher (talk) 16:32, 23 March 2025 (EDT)

Actually, one thing I'd change? Put RID2K above the UT, like you did with Animated. Despite the BW mold uses, I would not consider that part of the "Beast Era", it was a big break away from it and really should be treated as such. --M Sipher (talk) 16:39, 23 March 2025 (EDT)

Agreed, and it’s also only the Japanese version that’s connected to the Beast Era anyways. - IGEBM13 (talk) 17:10, 23 March 2025 (EDT)

How about just a format where it's kind of like a gallery where the series' logo is shown alongside all the subsections needed, then you scroll left or right to move forward on backwards in time? That sounds cool.

Like: "Series information" (Goes to wild king)<-(G1 logo)->(goes to G2) (All G1 subsections) Poliwag06 (talk) 11:20, 23 March 2025 (EDT)

I'll be honest, I don't think ever scrolled down far enough to even notice how much space the Series took up, and I don't think it really bothers me that it does. With that said, I think take one would be an improvement because the current one is kinda just... noise? the nice thick dividing lines and clean formatting help with readability. - Foffy (talk) 19:44, 23 March 2025 (EDT)

Side note, Transformers One should probably get the full name of Transformers One instead of just "One". It could even be snuck into the film series tab, with perhaps some clever rewording for the section so the "live action" bit doesn't exclude it. - Foffy (talk) 20:20, 23 March 2025 (EDT)

In regards to SS, I think it should go under Generations since a) it’s a Generations toyline and b) it includes more than live-action movie stuff (86, TFO, and GE). Thoughts? - IGEBM13 (talk) 21:53, 23 March 2025 (EDT)