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[[Image:Flo.jpg|right|167px|thumb|Hi. I designed all the Transformers. On TV. Mostly. ''The Movie'' definitely.]]
[[File:Floro Dery.jpg|right|167px|thumb|Hi. I designed all the Transformers. On TV. Mostly. ''The Movie'' definitely.]]
{{quote|MOST OF THE INFORMATIONS POSTED HERE ARE JUST TRASH!|"Charlie Alvarado" on this very article}}
 
'''Floro Dery''' (born [[June 18]], [[1958]]) is a Filipino artist who was the design supervisor on the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] and ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. Working with a team of designers, he was responsible for creating all the [[character model|animation models]] used throughout the first two seasons of the series and film.


'''Floro Dery''' (a.k.a "kuest144", "Ote", "Delamesa10" and "Charlie Alvarado") was the design supervisor for the original [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''The Transformers'' cartoon]]. He was also responsible for simplifying many of the original designs down to the eventual [[character model]]s. 
Outside of Transformers, Dery served as production designer on ''Pirates of Dark Water'', was a storyboard artist for Walt Disney Television Animation in the 90s, and spent ten years drawing the syndicated Spider-Man newspaper strip. Sadly, though, nothing excites him anymore except "the coming armaggeddon."<ref>[http://transformersph.blogspot.com/2007/06/interview-with-floro-dery.html Transformers Philippines interviews Dery]</ref>


He has also taken credit for fully designing many of the elements of the series, including all the human characters and incidental robots. He has further claimed to have been the originator of the idea of [[Unicron|a transforming planet]],<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20060625115408/http://members.aol.com/tfencyc/interview_dery.html ZMFTS interviews Dery]</ref> despite [[Hiroyuki Hataike|early Japanese concept sketches]] which precede his involvement. Many of his claims have been met by skepticism among the online fandom thanks to his own contradicting interviews throughout the years.
==Role on the series==
[[File:Deryizedsideswipe.jpg|left|upright=1.5|thumb|For the first-year characters, Dery simplified Shōhei Kohara's character models further for animation. He often removed wheels and enlarged the heads.]]
In addition to his work as a  storyboard artist for the first season of the series, Dery is credited with "Model and background design"; he shares the credit with [[George Goode]] and [[Andy Kim]] for the "[[More than Meets the Eye (mini-series)|More Than Meets the Eye]]" mini-series, but is credited solo for the thirteen episodes of the first season proper, with [[Gabriel Hoyos]] and [[Leandro Martinez]] listed as "assistant design." The earliest character models for ''The Transformers'' ([[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] body-type) were created by Japanese artist [[Shōhei Kohara]] for the 1984 television commercials; Dery simplified Kohara's designs for the commercial animation, then further revised them for the cartoon, in addition to creating animation designs for the rest of the first-year cast using the toys' [[package art]] as reference.  


Floro Dery is very fond of his [[The Transformers: The Movie|1986 movie]] designs, especially [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and [[Gnaw]] (though even Dery doesn't like [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]], and he designed the guy). In fact, if he hadn't drawn the movie characters more humanoid than their boxy predecessors, then "the Transformers by now would be a has been already like the Go-bots."<ref>[http://www.geocities.com/extraordinarypinoy/FLOROandTRANSFORMERS.html Sarah Paloma interviews Dery]</ref> Sadly, though, nothing excites him anymore except the coming [[Armageddon]].<ref>[http://transformersph.blogspot.com/2007/06/interview-with-floro-dery.html Transformers Philippines interviews Dery]</ref>
[[File:G1-Sideswipe-Red-Alert-character-model-comparison.jpg|right|upright=1.5|thumb|Second-year character models adhered more closely to the toys' proportions; observe the differences  between Dery's Red Alert (right) and Sideswipe (left), despite being based on the same basic mold.]]


==Participation in the modern fandom==
With the expansion of the series in its second year, Dery's name became just one of half-a-dozen designers credited with "Model and background design" in season two. The designs for this year's new cast members were created from images of the toys themselves, and more closely resembled the figures than the season one designs had. Concurrent with the development of season two, Dery worked on ''The Transformers: The Movie,'' for which the usual order of production was reversed: rather than base his designs on pre-existing toys, Dery created the whole cast of the movie from scratch, and the toys were then based on his work, hence his credit as "original concept designer" for the film. He rates his designs for [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and [[Gnaw (G1)|Gnaw]] as his favourites (though even he doesn't like [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]], and he designed the guy).
[[Image:Deryizedsideswipe.jpg|left|300px|thumb|For the first-year characters, Dery simplified [[Shōhei Kohara]]'s character models further for animation. He often removed wheels and enlarged the heads.]]
Dery is fairly infamous in the fandom for the outlandish and often very egocentric claims he has made in various interviews. Additionally, for years ''someone'' has been searching out Transformers forums and messageboards for mentions of his name and work, then posting under various aliases (often claiming to be one of Dery's "associates") to inflate his legend and verbally attack fan and foe alike for daring to criticize him or suggest that someone ''other'' than Dery designed something in the show. Needless to say, most fans assume that this is Dery himself.


The first such instance occurred on alt.toys.transformers in 2002,<ref>[http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.toys.transformers.classic.moderated/browse_frm/thread/5a4c8a0e53e2b287/f1a0eefc05e61dea?hl=en&amp;lnk=st&amp;q=kuest144#f1a0eefc05e61dea]</ref> which was a fairly civil series of posts, even if the rampant egomania was clearly in evidence from the outset. Later, he basically repeated the same post to correct the long-standing misconception that Marvel artist [[wikipedia: John Romita, Jr.|John Romita]] had been responsible for designing the animation models.<ref>[http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/5833ec08b5ae1b38]</ref> Following [[Dave Edwards|Zobovor]]'s interview with Dery, however, which caused many to comment on Dery's self-centred eccentricities, the civility level began to drop as more posts from "kuest144" were made claiming that any critics of Dery were "jealous" and that he was so envied that it had led to "harassment". Not to worry, though—Marvel had specially set it up so he could work at home to avoid encountering these vicious haters! It was at this point that Rik Bakke pointed out that the screenname was (and indeed, still is) the same as one of Dery's homepage accounts.<ref>[http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/4ab851441125cdd8]</ref> A quick perusal of the Google Groups archive quickly reveals that every other post made by kuest144 either relates to Floro Dery or is to a Filipino newsgroup.
==The Legend of Floro Dery==


[[Image:Character models.png|right|200px|thumb|When Dery designed the second-year character models himself from scratch, they adhered more closely to the toys' proportions. Note how Dery's Red Alert (right) is much more stocky and toy-like in detail than Sideswipe (left), despite being based from the same toy.]]
{{quote|MOST OF THE INFORMATIONS POSTED HERE ARE JUST TRASH!|"Charlie Alvarado" on this very article}}
Perhaps the most public case was that of "Ote," a poster who briefly appeared on [http://www.allspark.com The Allspark] to decry any critics of Dery's as "racists". Only a [http://shortpacked.livejournal.com/25628.html small archive] of this hilarious series of interactions has been preserved, but "Ote" was firmly silenced when everyone pointed out that one of the most popular Transformers artists around, [[Don Figueroa]], is ''also'' Filipino.


Then, there's "delamesa10" [http://gettingintotransformers.blogspot.com/2007/11/floro-dery-visual-creator-of.html here].
Dery is somewhat infamous among modern fandom for the outlandish and egocentric claims he has made in various interviews, many of which have been met by skepticism thanks to his own contradicting interviews throughout the years. He has taken credit for single-handedly designing ''literally every'' incidental human and robot character, and has further claimed to have been the originator of the idea of [[Unicron|a transforming planet]],<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20060625115408/http://members.aol.com/tfencyc/interview_dery.html ZMFTS interviews Dery]</ref> despite [[Hiroyuki Hataike|early Japanese concept sketches]] which precede his involvement. Essentially, he takes primary credit for the success of the Transformers series, and has even claimed that, were it not for his movie character designs, then "the Transformers by now would be a has been already like the Go-bots."<ref>[http://www.geocities.com/extraordinarypinoy/FLOROandTRANSFORMERS.html Sarah Paloma interviews Dery]</ref>


And, of course, there's the case of "Charlie Alvarado" in evidence on [[User talk:76.213.224.139|this]] [[User talk:76.213.232.73|very]] [[User talk:76.213.244.5|wiki]].
Additionally, between 2002 and 2008, ''someone'' searched out Transformers forums and messageboards for mentions of Dery's name, and would post under various aliases (often claiming to be one of Dery's "associates") to inflate his legend and verbally attack fan and foe alike for daring to criticize him or suggest that someone ''other'' than Dery designed something in the show.
*"Kuest144"—a screenname shared with one of Dery's websites at the time<ref>[http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/4ab851441125cdd8 Rik Bakke unpacks Kuest's screenname]</ref>—posted on the [[alt.toys.transformers]] newsgroup in 2002,<ref>[http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.toys.transformers.classic.moderated/browse_frm/thread/5a4c8a0e53e2b287/f1a0eefc05e61dea?hl=en&amp;lnk=st&amp;q=kuest144#f1a0eefc05e61dea "Kuest144" posts on alt.toys.transformers]</ref> accusing those who observed Dery's egocentrism of "jealousy," and telling stories of how this "harassment" was so common that Marvel Productions had specially set it up so Dery could work at home to avoid encountering these vicious haters!
*"Ote" briefly appeared on the [http://www.allspark.com The Allspark] messageboard in 2005 to decry any critics of Dery's as "racists". Only a [http://shortpacked.livejournal.com/25628.html small archive] of this series of interactions has been preserved, but "Ote" was silenced when everyone pointed out that one of the most popular Transformers artists at the time, [[Don Figueroa]], is ''also'' Filipino.
*"delamesa10" appeared on a [http://gettingintotransformers.blogspot.com/2007/11/floro-dery-visual-creator-of.html Blogspot blog] in 2007 to say similar things.
*And in the last known instance, "Charlie Alvarado" made himself known on [[User talk:76.213.224.139|this]] [[User talk:76.213.232.73|very]] [[User talk:76.213.244.5|wiki]] in 2008 to contest the content of this article.  


The writing style and mannerisms evident in these assorted tirades, including the assorted howls at being insulted, the claims that clear arguments ''against'' him somehow prove his point, citations of the same material in more than one place despite the claims that it was found "by accident", and the general unhalting ''stupidity'' of the whole affair, makes it pretty clear that they're all the work of the same person, and they're immensely similar to Dery's own pontifications as seen in his interviews—so if it isn't him, then he has got one ''majorly'' rabid fan running around.
The commonalities of these tirades—including the assorted howls at being insulted, the claims that clear arguments ''against'' him somehow prove his point, citations of the same material in more than one place despite the claims that it was found "by accident"—make it pretty clear that they're all the work of the same person. Their immense similarities to the pontifications seen in Dery's own interviews have left most fans to assume this individual was Dery himself—but if it wasn't, he had one ''majorly'' rabid fan running around.


==Notes==
==Notes==
* In the opening credits for "[[Scramble City: Mobilization]]", Floro's first name was incorrectly spelled "Frolo".
* In the opening credits for "[[Scramble City: Mobilization]]", Floro's first name was incorrectly spelled "Frolo".
* In the "Bullpen Bulletins" for December 1992 (written in October of that year), Stan Lee noted that Dery was quitting his work on Spider-Man because Dery ''"has been forced to give up his chores because of an increased work load at the animation studio which is his home base."'' What exactly Dery's work load was went unexplained.


==Footnotes==
==References==
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==External links==
==External links==
*[http://usapang-komiks.blogspot.com/2007/05/interview-with-flory-derry.html Randy Valiente interviews Dery (in Tagalog)]
*[http://usapang-komiks.blogspot.com/2007/05/interview-with-flory-derry.html Randy Valiente interviews Dery (in Tagalog)]
*[http://comicsillustration.blogspot.com/ Comics Illustrations According to Floro Dery]
*[http://comicsillustration.blogspot.com/ Comics Illustrations According to Floro Dery]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20080308044215/http://hometown.aol.com/kuest144/ Flor Dery's site on the Wayback Machine]
*<s>[http://web.archive.org/web/20080308044215/http://hometown.aol.com/kuest144/ Floro Dery's site on the Wayback Machine]</s> Blocked from archive by Floro.😞
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Latest revision as of 08:52, 15 November 2023

Hi. I designed all the Transformers. On TV. Mostly. The Movie definitely.

Floro Dery (born June 18, 1958) is a Filipino artist who was the design supervisor on the Generation 1 cartoon and The Transformers: The Movie. Working with a team of designers, he was responsible for creating all the animation models used throughout the first two seasons of the series and film.

Outside of Transformers, Dery served as production designer on Pirates of Dark Water, was a storyboard artist for Walt Disney Television Animation in the 90s, and spent ten years drawing the syndicated Spider-Man newspaper strip. Sadly, though, nothing excites him anymore except "the coming armaggeddon."[1]

Role on the series

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For the first-year characters, Dery simplified Shōhei Kohara's character models further for animation. He often removed wheels and enlarged the heads.

In addition to his work as a storyboard artist for the first season of the series, Dery is credited with "Model and background design"; he shares the credit with George Goode and Andy Kim for the "More Than Meets the Eye" mini-series, but is credited solo for the thirteen episodes of the first season proper, with Gabriel Hoyos and Leandro Martinez listed as "assistant design." The earliest character models for The Transformers (Optimus Prime, Megatron, Sideswipe, Prowl, Jazz, Soundwave, Laserbeak, and the Seeker body-type) were created by Japanese artist Shōhei Kohara for the 1984 television commercials; Dery simplified Kohara's designs for the commercial animation, then further revised them for the cartoon, in addition to creating animation designs for the rest of the first-year cast using the toys' package art as reference.

Second-year character models adhered more closely to the toys' proportions; observe the differences between Dery's Red Alert (right) and Sideswipe (left), despite being based on the same basic mold.

With the expansion of the series in its second year, Dery's name became just one of half-a-dozen designers credited with "Model and background design" in season two. The designs for this year's new cast members were created from images of the toys themselves, and more closely resembled the figures than the season one designs had. Concurrent with the development of season two, Dery worked on The Transformers: The Movie, for which the usual order of production was reversed: rather than base his designs on pre-existing toys, Dery created the whole cast of the movie from scratch, and the toys were then based on his work, hence his credit as "original concept designer" for the film. He rates his designs for Hot Rod and Gnaw as his favourites (though even he doesn't like Wheelie, and he designed the guy).

The Legend of Floro Dery

[edit]
MOST OF THE INFORMATIONS POSTED HERE ARE JUST TRASH!"Charlie Alvarado" on this very article

Dery is somewhat infamous among modern fandom for the outlandish and egocentric claims he has made in various interviews, many of which have been met by skepticism thanks to his own contradicting interviews throughout the years. He has taken credit for single-handedly designing literally every incidental human and robot character, and has further claimed to have been the originator of the idea of a transforming planet,[2] despite early Japanese concept sketches which precede his involvement. Essentially, he takes primary credit for the success of the Transformers series, and has even claimed that, were it not for his movie character designs, then "the Transformers by now would be a has been already like the Go-bots."[3]

Additionally, between 2002 and 2008, someone searched out Transformers forums and messageboards for mentions of Dery's name, and would post under various aliases (often claiming to be one of Dery's "associates") to inflate his legend and verbally attack fan and foe alike for daring to criticize him or suggest that someone other than Dery designed something in the show.

  • "Kuest144"—a screenname shared with one of Dery's websites at the time[4]—posted on the alt.toys.transformers newsgroup in 2002,[5] accusing those who observed Dery's egocentrism of "jealousy," and telling stories of how this "harassment" was so common that Marvel Productions had specially set it up so Dery could work at home to avoid encountering these vicious haters!
  • "Ote" briefly appeared on the The Allspark messageboard in 2005 to decry any critics of Dery's as "racists". Only a small archive of this series of interactions has been preserved, but "Ote" was silenced when everyone pointed out that one of the most popular Transformers artists at the time, Don Figueroa, is also Filipino.
  • "delamesa10" appeared on a Blogspot blog in 2007 to say similar things.
  • And in the last known instance, "Charlie Alvarado" made himself known on this very wiki in 2008 to contest the content of this article.

The commonalities of these tirades—including the assorted howls at being insulted, the claims that clear arguments against him somehow prove his point, citations of the same material in more than one place despite the claims that it was found "by accident"—make it pretty clear that they're all the work of the same person. Their immense similarities to the pontifications seen in Dery's own interviews have left most fans to assume this individual was Dery himself—but if it wasn't, he had one majorly rabid fan running around.

Notes

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  • In the opening credits for "Scramble City: Mobilization", Floro's first name was incorrectly spelled "Frolo".
  • In the "Bullpen Bulletins" for December 1992 (written in October of that year), Stan Lee noted that Dery was quitting his work on Spider-Man because Dery "has been forced to give up his chores because of an increased work load at the animation studio which is his home base." What exactly Dery's work load was went unexplained.

References

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