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==About Grimlock==
==About Grimlock==
They're both from Viron universes, and both technically part of the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 Franchise|2001 Robots in Disguise]] continuity.
They're both from Viron universes, and both technically part of the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|2001 Robots in Disguise]] continuity.
Someone could be all like, "Wait, I though RID's Grimlock was a big green backhoe. Who's this Dinosaur?"
Someone could be all like, "Wait, I though RID's Grimlock was a big green backhoe. Who's this Dinosaur?"
Imagine if there were two Optimus Primes in one continuity, even if they looked completely different, would it not be within reason to distinct the two from one another?
Imagine if there were two Optimus Primes in one continuity, even if they looked completely different, would it not be within reason to distinct the two from one another?

Revision as of 23:10, 25 January 2016

Interesting that you think she's an Earthling... --Jimsorenson (talk) 20:24, 17 March 2015 (EDT)

Well, "Galen Witwicky", so I assumed. Saix (talk) 20:38, 17 March 2015 (EDT)
I'm wagering that this involves a human/Nebulon interspecies relationship! --abates (talk) 21:43, 17 March 2015 (EDT)

E-Hobby Starscream

You guys share links from seibertron but if I want to share it from deviantart, that's bad? I mean the user that published those pages in deviantart is E-Hobby's official user page.(I think).--Primestar3 (talk) 11:36, 19 March 2015 (EDT)

It's not e-Hobby that's putting those pages on DeviantArt. Saix (talk) 13:16, 19 March 2015 (EDT)
Hmm ok then, but still Seibertron is a fan site too, right?--Primestar3 (talk) 12:16, 31 March 2015 (EDT)

Joke about Legends Arcee

If my joke offend you or simply not funny, sorry about that. I'm just joking about sexist tendencies of Japanese culture. In fact, most famous and badass woman transformer only doing cook and wipe Rattrap's ass in this comic.—MWM (talk) 11:01, 21 March 2015 (EDT)

Don't worry, I'm not angry. I got what you meant with the joke, but it was still iffy, since it's hard for a reader to tell if it's serious or a criticism of the comic. I appreciate that you took the time to uploaded the image! Saix (talk) 17:12, 21 March 2015 (EDT)

3-D Diorama?

Say, where did you find these? Escargon (talk) 21:30, 9 April 2015 (EDT)

[1] Saix (talk) 21:32, 9 April 2015 (EDT)
Thanks!Escargon (talk) 21:50, 9 April 2015 (EDT)
Ugh...they're all CBR files my computer can't access. Thanks for the link thought. Escargon (talk) 21:50, 9 April 2015 (EDT)
They're just renamed rar files. Change the file extension to .rar and upzip them Saix (talk) 22:39, 9 April 2015 (EDT)

Magmatron

Thanks for the back up there. I THOUGHT I remembered it being the standard but didn't want to remove it without checking so I just cleaned up the grammar. Might possibly be put on the page for the toyline itself, but not sure if it is really worth noting.--Khajidha (talk) 16:30, 28 April 2015 (EDT)

About the Hero Mashers

So I guess while you were putting them where they would go, BotCon's official Andromeda's Facebook page went ahead and made it a seperate cluster from anything before. [2] Escargon (talk) 06:51, 10 May 2015 (EDT)

Sequel series = splinter timelines?

Can you show me where this piece of information comes from? I have never heard of this idea before; doesn't it nullify the entire concept of continuities? S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 13:10, 15 May 2015 (EDT)

I'm not saying I necessarily agree with this interpretation, but it doesn't nullify continuity. Series A happens, then series B happens as a sequel to A. A is definitely the past of B, but that doesn't mean B is the future of A. We have several instances of this happening, notably the Marvel G1 continuity. G2, A Distant Time & Place, Regeneration One, and Classics are all explicitly sequels to Marvel US G1, but are mutually incompatible. Hell, Beast Wars (the cartoon) was implicitly a sequel to both Marvel US G1 AND the Sunbow Cartoon. --Jimsorenson (talk) 13:21, 15 May 2015 (EDT)
So then the U.S. Cybertron cartoon is not part of Aurex 802.23 Alpha? S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 13:23, 15 May 2015 (EDT)
It is when it is. The events of the US cartoon are completely relevant -if not fundamental- to the rest of the events on this page. Universal streams are not completely separate timelines. They blend and weave into each other and flow from larger sources, like, you know, streams. A single cartoon can be part of multiple streams AND its own all at the same time. I swear, people just look at "OOH NUMBERS" and forget the accompanying text that gives context to the numbers, and trip over themselves to be soooooooo clever in splitting up shit. --M Sipher (talk) 13:33, 15 May 2015 (EDT)
Well said. And let's be wary of letting the tail wag the dog here. The primary source text should always be, well, primary. Or, in other words, which are you going to believe, your own eyes or something that was published in code in a source book (or in a Japanese Manga with a print run in the hundreds or the like.)--Jimsorenson (talk) 13:47, 15 May 2015 (EDT)

Mandarin Names

Hello, thanks for adding information. However, please do change the spelling for Taiwanese Mandarin Name because the spelling in Taiwan is different from the Hanyu Pinyin in China. Thanks. :D --TX55TALK 10:17, 24 May 2015 (EDT)

Universal streams

Looks like we're both working on the same parts of the wiki at the same time. I'll take a break, I have homework anyway. Thanks for fixing up my code. I appreciate the help. (Even if I think you're wrong about Zarak.) --Giggidy (talk) 18:47, 26 June 2015 (EDT)

List of characters whose dimensional classification is unknown

There's also Gaiacross and his components. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 15:07, 27 June 2015 (EDT)

Shell Game characters

If this wiki now accepts that RID Optimus-redeco Defensor is Viron, then is it alright to do the same to the other "Shell Game" universe characters? S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 13:36, 29 July 2015 (EDT)

Regeneration One

Regeneration One is explicitly a sequel to Marvel G1 continuity and belongs sequentially after it in write-ups. That's how the stories are presented, that's how it was branded, that's how the creators want it, and that's how we've written it up. If you want to rearrange things, make a case on a relevant talk page.--Giggidy (talk) 08:44, 11 August 2015 (EDT)

You're really imperious for somebody who just started editing two months ago. ("How the creators want it"? Do you have personal correspondence with Furman on wiki organization?) None of the pages you've reverted actually contain Marvel US G1, which Regeneration One is a sequel to. You are linking together fiction that has nothing to do with each other in regard to those characters. Saix (talk) 14:01, 11 August 2015 (EDT)
Sorry, I didn't realize that my tenure wasn't long enough to disagree with a six-month veteran like yourself. It's bizarre to not acknowledge that ReGeneration One and Marvel UK don't spring from the same tree and put leagues of fiction between them. And, if I'm "imperious," what are you? You're constantly changing around organizational elements with no discussion, based on whatever new scheme you've come up with. For someone whose been here well under a year, you certainly have strong opinions. I at least lurked for a long while to get the culture. --Giggidy (talk) 15:03, 11 August 2015 (EDT)
There's a difference between disagreement and acting like the authority on wiki organization and article writeups because apparently you're the only one who lurked. "Organizational elements" have frequently changed based on users' whims; section reorganization isn't anything new and the last major one was done purely by two users without input from others. In regards to MUK and RG1, it's not the job of character pages to establish points of continuity that aren't relevant to the actual subject of the article. The various versions of Jhiaxus have absolutely nothing to do with each other and putting them under one "continuity" is a ridiculous pretense with no benefit. Saix (talk) 15:26, 11 August 2015 (EDT)
Separating RG1 (and Classics) into their own sections would be a major change to a large number of pages and there's been no discussion about it. If you want to do it, there should be talk first so everyone else knows what's going on. Charles RB (talk) 21:28, 11 August 2015 (GMT)
And I've asked about it on http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Reorganising_Regeneration_One to see what people think. If it's ayes, then it's off to the edits! Charles RB (talk) 23:15, 11 August 2015 (GMT)

Characters with no confirmed universal origin

Question... have we not specified Longhorn (Universe) and Sunstorm (Universe)? Just want to be sure I'm not missing something. --Jimsorenson (talk) 14:26, 17 August 2015 (EDT)

No, I just forgot to update. Sorry! Saix (talk) 14:27, 17 August 2015 (EDT)
Thank you, your list is a handy reference.--Jimsorenson (talk) 14:34, 17 August 2015 (EDT)

Whilst this is being talked about, it's probably worth noting that RTS Strafe hasn't reeeaaaally had its universe confirmed - it was merged with G1 Strafe for some convoluted reason during the 'AOE Strafe is a counterpart of G1 Strafe' debacle and probably should've been unmerged after all that nonsense was undone. Jalaguy (talk) 16:16, 17 August 2015 (EDT)

I'm mostly fine with just assuming he's G1 based on context, but I'd send in a question if you want confirmation. Saix (talk) 16:30, 17 August 2015 (EDT)

Hey, Saix, should Universe 2003 Smokescreen (unreleased) be on your list as well? S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 16:21, 17 August 2015 (EDT)

BW Metals manga

Do you still have the BW Metals manga scans? The links on the talk page are dead. --FortMax (talk) 16:48, 13 September 2015 (EDT)

[3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8] Saix (talk) 09:54, 14 September 2015 (EDT)

Italics

Hey, man, saw you unitalicizing Ask Vector Prime. I don't really care one way or the other, but I seem to see it italicized a lot. Is there a policy or system to this? --Giggidy (talk) 16:06, 24 September 2015 (EDT)

AVP isn't a work or a franchise, so it doesn't get italicized. It's something like [[wikipedia:{{#if:|:}}Dear Abby|{{#if:||Dear Abby}}]]—a column. Chicago style of editing says columns don't get either quotation marks or italics. Saix (talk) 16:13, 24 September 2015 (EDT)
That's fine for me going forward. There's a LOT of AVP where it's in italics though. If you're ever feeling like a quest, rooting them all out might be worth doing. --Giggidy (talk) 16:15, 24 September 2015 (EDT)

Gong

Knock it off. It's fine the way it is now. Stop reverting each other. --Jimsorenson (talk) 12:43, 26 September 2015 (EDT)

You were right. I was wrong. Making all the Guardians and Renegades convinced me of that. I apologize to you for my childishness. --Giggidy (talk) 13:01, 26 October 2015 (EDT)

Not needed, but thank you nonetheless for the apology. Saix (talk) 15:30, 26 October 2015 (EDT)

Stealth Bomber

I see that you put a redlink to Stealth Bomber on Stealth Saber and Victory Bomber's pages. Did you intend that someone else would pick that redlink up to create a page for Stealth Bomber or did you think that Stealth Bomber didn't merit an individual page? I've wondered about such a thing as we have an individual page for RiD Dreadwing but not for BWII Formation Scream, G2 Megatron+Starscream, and G2 Dreadwing+Smokescreen. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 23:31, 27 October 2015 (EDT)

I think it warrants a page, hence the link. I was just too lazy to make that page in particular. Formation Scream should also get its own page. Saix (talk) 08:57, 28 October 2015 (EDT)

Disagreements

I saw what you wrote on the Community Portal. I can't speak for others but, though we often disagree, I do value your input and perspective. Also, it makes the times we do agree that much more meaningful. --Giggidy (talk) 16:58, 2 November 2015 (EST)

Speaking of, there's a contentious GoBots issue on Community Portal, should screen captures be included for character pages or not. I would be interested to hear you weigh in. --Giggidy (talk) 09:07, 3 November 2015 (EST)

Devisiun

I understand you may not like the speculative tone, but was it really necessary to also delete the plausible explanation that the secondary star may be encased in a Dyson sphere? After all, the text clearly refer to a double star and one of the celestial body represented seems to produce a lot of light. (Besides having spot the same color than the "single" star of said same picture.) Damn... I was only trying to be thorough and objective. How could I contact Scott online so that the answer would be considered by this wiki? -- Xunk16 (talk) 06:11, 16 December 2015 (EST)

I'm not Saix, but to quote the wiki's main help page: "Speculation to fill gaps should be minimized, and preferably eliminated entirely." It's fine to note the inconsistency, but an extended account of possible explanations is unnecessary. Jalaguy (talk) 06:46, 16 December 2015 (EST)
Understood. Thanks, I'll sleep better now. But I'm still going to run a Tranformers RPG campaign and feel that this question may deserve an answer. So the second part of my inquiry remains. Since I will try to ask, where and how such a thing should be done so that the information could validly be forwarded on this wiki? Xunk16 (talk) 07:04, 16 December 2015 (EST)
Scott has Twitter and Tumblr accounts you can engage her on. But, honestly? You're looking for complexity where there isn't any. Saix (talk) 09:08, 16 December 2015 (EST)
I have to agree. Most casual sci-fi fans don't know what Dyson spheres are, and the concept has never featured in Transformers, as far as I'm aware. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 09:15, 16 December 2015 (EST)

Your JG1 timeline list

Hey, that list on your user page is awesome and really helpful. Though, the Prime AM-28 Leo Prime bio also contains some JG1 info, set post-BWN before he jumps over to Uniend (or over to Gargent, then Nexus, then finally Uniend, as claimed by AVP, but I digress). --Sabrblade (talk) 13:36, 18 December 2015 (EST)

Thanks for the reminder. I mostly constructed it so I would have something to check when organizating fiction sections. Let me know if I'm missing anything else. Saix (talk) 14:31, 18 December 2015 (EST)
Will do. EDIT: Tale of the Pretenders is missing. --Sabrblade (talk) 14:53, 18 December 2015 (EST)

Italics in establishment names

From what I've researched, I have to agree that establishment names aren't capitalized. However, that's how The Blue Deployer is rendered in the TransTech text stories. Think that's worth noting under "Errors"? S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 16:16, 19 December 2015 (EST)

I guess. Saix (talk) 16:17, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Just to avoid any edit wars over pastel horses...

I understand that the captions are about humor over anything else, but maybe the caption should at least be a little less confrontational in tone? I'm not against humor in the article itself, but that opening caption's not exactly good humor. It's more mean-spirited than simple jokeyness that this wiki thrives upon; so I decided that a joke about Bumblebee's kid-appeal nature (and thus perceptiveness to what's popular with kids) would be a bit less potentially divisive overall, and less likely to appear mean-spirited.

I expect that sort of tone in the articles for stuff like B.O.T, The Beast or Kiss Players, the really awful, terrible stuff we have to rip into pieces because of how bad they are, not an article on My Little Pony. It's kind of like opening, say, a Soundwave article by poking fun at his speech with a disabled joke in his first image caption because of his speech pattern; it's easy and can get a few laughs, but overall it's just not worth it because not everyone will find such jokes to be really funny. And above all else, I'd like to think that we as a community are above those sorts of cheap jokes just for a few laughs.

Not trying to come off as indignant here, honest. I'm just wondering if maybe the caption joke isn't really good in any capacity. And if a caption isn't funny, then really, we shouldn't defend it just because of longevity. We obviously need the funny to stay, but to ignore potentially valid points just for the sake of a joke seems...well, kind of odd for this Wiki. We're jokey, but nowhere unappropriate have I seen the wiki's captions actually being that harsh towards a subject.

It's also a jarring shift in tone to go from "Only the dead can know peace from this evil" as an opening caption to "Don't go looking for the Tooth Fairy without it!" as the next caption down the page. They're both aiming for humor, but one's more "Ha-ha look at this silly situation!" and the other is more "Ha-ha let's make a "ponies are evil" joke because it's teh funnies!".

Again, not wanting to look entitled; but I'm curious about why the edit was reverted so quickly. MaximalBroadjaw (talk) 00:48, 27 December 2015 (EST)

SPOILERS

Please remember to use the Spoiler warning template when adding new material. I just stumbled across information you added to Lio Convoy about Sunrise before I had a chance to read it. --Xaaron (talk) 08:56, 8 January 2016 (EST)

I apologize. I'll try to remember not to do that again. Saix (talk) 09:08, 8 January 2016 (EST)

Moving images

Sorry about that. I thought it was a more efficient use of space to align the tops of the images with the headers. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 20:55, 12 January 2016 (EST)

About Grimlock

They're both from Viron universes, and both technically part of the 2001 Robots in Disguise continuity. Someone could be all like, "Wait, I though RID's Grimlock was a big green backhoe. Who's this Dinosaur?" Imagine if there were two Optimus Primes in one continuity, even if they looked completely different, would it not be within reason to distinct the two from one another?