User talk:Abates

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Sidebar

Given its imminence and "big deal" status, would it make sense to put Unicron: The Darkest Hour on the sidebar? --Riptide (talk) 21:36, 18 March 2018 (EDT)

Maybe - we don't usually put miniseries up, but it is likely to be pretty important for the IDW continuity. Now I think of it, we should probably have Cyberverse up there too. --abates (talk) 22:59, 18 March 2018 (EDT)

How about Rescue Bots Academy? --Riptide (talk) 11:00, 20 March 2018 (EDT)

It's probably a bit early yet. That's not out until next year. --abates (talk) 15:46, 20 March 2018 (EDT)

Actually, it just got moved up to Fall according to Discovery Family's 2018-2019 upfront. If we're gonna add Cyberverse, it might be prudent to add RBA as well. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 16:26, 21 March 2018 (EDT)

That's pretty fantastic news! Sounds like adding that is reasonable then. --abates (talk) 16:53, 21 March 2018 (EDT)

Could we please add links to the GoBots and IDW sister wikis? Escargon (talk) 15:29, 7 May 2018 (EDT)

Sure, I've just added links for them to the main page. --abates (talk) 16:52, 7 May 2018 (EDT)

I think it'd be a good idea to have links to them in the sidebar too - their own subsection under the "current media" section? --Riptide (talk) 17:28, 7 May 2018 (EDT)

Having links in the "Navigation" section that go to entire other websites would not be good, IMHO, as users are not going to expect it. Adding links to other sites in the sidebar is something that needs more of a discussion than it has been given, and also should be run by Walky. --abates (talk) 17:43, 7 May 2018 (EDT)

Multiple account abuser

A not exactly subtle case: Transformers1001 and TransformersFan1001. The two accounts were created the exact same day, make very similar edits (i.e. the kind that have to keep getting reverted), and are never active at the same time. Note that when one account stops making edits, the other starts. Would you please take care of them? -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 23:38, 20 May 2018 (EDT)

Bumblebee (film)

Would you please be so kind as to update the links from "Bumblebee: The Movie" to "Bumblebee (film)" on the main nav and the Live-action film series page? Thanks much. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 14:20, 5 June 2018 (EDT)

Thank you! -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 16:37, 5 June 2018 (EDT)

No problem! --abates (talk) 16:47, 5 June 2018 (EDT)

Vandalist?

User:Polar Prime 12 keeps copy and pasting a poor fiction section for Bumblebee (Cyberverse) based on his bio. They have been told many times to stop, and their edits are reverted, yet they insist on having their summary on the page. Can you give them a penalty? notirishman (talk) 19:32, 13 July 2018 (EDT)

For now, I have dropped an explanation on their talk page as it's more obvious for them to see than the page edit history. I'd prefer to err on the side of being friendly and making sure they know why they're being reverted before getting out the ban stick. --abates (talk) 21:09, 13 July 2018 (EDT)

Cyberverse

Could you please unlock the Cyberverse cartoon article? Locking it made sense months ago when we didn't know anything and wanted to prevent vandalism, but now that we're only a few months from launch and details are actually starting to emerge, it makes more sense to re-open it for editing so we can keep up with any new information. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 15:01, 25 July 2018 (EDT)

Yep, I think it's OK to unlock it now. --abates (talk) 16:28, 25 July 2018 (EDT)

Botched move

If you have the time, could you fix the "KSI Sentry"/"Trax (AOE)" histories? And move "Trax (G1)" to just "Trax". Saix (talk) 08:25, 30 July 2018 (EDT)

I apologize for the inconvenience I created. I wasn't aware of the issues that would arise from it. notirishman (talk) 13:06, 30 July 2018 (EDT)

Ruined Forever update (NOT content-related)

I've been working on updating instances of inter-wiki linking to remove bare URLs and use the current preferred templates, and I realized there's a few spots on Ruined FOREVER that need to be brought up to date. I'm not changing any of the content, but I have put together a new draft in my sandbox that uses our {{w}} and [[tvtropes]] templates, as well as fixing one of the links to redirect properly. Unfortunately I can't implement the changes myself since the page is locked; could you please copy-paste the draft onto the article when you get the chance? Thanks much. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 12:50, 24 August 2018 (EDT)

I have updated the TVTropes link and the anchor on the Wikipedia like, but I don't see the point in changing perfectly good Wikipedia links to use a template instead. What's the advantage there? --abates (talk) 18:57, 24 August 2018 (EDT)

Scroll box template

Hey, I was wondering if it would be possible to integrate the coding for this template to here? I want to try out a proposal. Saix (talk) 01:16, 4 November 2018 (EDT)

I've added the scrollbox class styling they're using on it. Let me know if you need anything else. --abates (talk) 01:11, 4 November 2018 (EST)

What everybody lacks but me.

I was able to add in more information to the Transformers video games, more specifically, the NDS games for the 2007 & ROTF movies, the ROTF PSP game, and the Wii/PS2 version of the ROTF game. I even added in character pages for the Krome-exclusive NPCs, and the playable ROTF DS Transformers. Something that nobody, not even you, were never able to do, because I have the time & energy to do so, all because I did some heavy researching, and thorough analysis. StormJet (talk) 22:29, 5 November 2018 (EST)

Cool, good work! --abates (talk) 22:52, 5 November 2018 (EST)

You really need to tone down that passive-aggressiveness. Escargon (talk) 23:09, 5 November 2018 (EST)

You're lucky, everything I did was unfairly removed. -MisterKenneth (talk) 22:58, 5 November 2018 (EST)

From what I can see, you added a toy listing for something that was leaked, and the other one was an addition to the "many deaths of Optimus" page that wasn't really a death. Hardly unfair. Escargon (talk) 23:09, 5 November 2018 (EST)

It wasn't fair. If the toy wasn't real, I wouldn't have posted anything about it, but it was clearly real and a planned product. It wasn't like it was secret North Korean nuke codes or something, it was a prototype on display, clearly it was being revealed and confirmed. Later on, the same user who called me out later took the credit for himself, when I deserve the credit. I do not understand how that on "the many deaths of Optimus Prime" was wrong when 1. There's a couple of near death mentions on the page 2. The film really built it up like he was going to die and 3. It was the truth. It honestly doesn't end there, but I don't feel like digging it all up, but to make it short, I've been insulted, called a liar, etc. It really makes me think this place is highly elitist, hypocritical, and unwelcoming of newer users, which is why I'm leaving, but want to put my case to rest before I do. -MisterKenneth (talk) 23:24, 5 November 2018 (EST)

So you came to an entirely different conversation to bring up your, putting it kindly, imagined unfair treatment. Very mature. Escargon (talk) 00:04, 6 November 2018 (EST)

@MisterKenneth: I hope you'll understand that there are very good reasons why we don't list leaked toys here. It's because if we acknowledge the leaked toy, it will encourage further leaks in future, which is essentially encouraging people to break the law. --abates (talk) 00:12, 6 November 2018 (EST)

@Escargon You started by saying that what people did to me was fair. I simply joined in here to tell @Stormjet that he's lucky he was able to get that cool info in without somebody going after him, which wasn't the case for me. I didn't intend on saying anything else. @Abates I don't understand. How is it a leak if its a confirmed product? I saw people confirm that MPM-7 was a real product going to hit the shelves and online stores, so I have no idea how that's a leak and illegal. It's not like I collected that information from some shady spy in a dark alleyway, the image I uploaded of MPM-7 was from I believe either Seibertron or TFW2005, and I saw sources confirming MPM-7's existence. I was telling the truth. I didn't come here to spread lies, I'm not that kind of person. -MisterKenneth (talk) 00:54, 6 November 2018 (EST)

That particular image that was uploaded was a leak, as you can see here: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/bumblebee-the-movie-masterpiece-movie-vw-beetle-bumblebee-prototype-figure-leaked/40982/ If someone has it displayed somewhere without making it clear that it's from a leak, then that's an error on their part, but we still can't have it on the Wiki. --abates (talk) 01:05, 6 November 2018 (EST)

I most likely got that image and the info from here https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-movie-masterpiece-mpm7-volkswagen-bumblebee/41919/ this article proves the toys existence by going as far as to mention pre-order and release dates. They said that it may not have anything to do with the final toy, but after looking at images of the final toy, I can safely say it had everything to do with it. Would a "leak" as you call it have the kind information seen here? -MisterKenneth (talk) 01:17, 6 November 2018 (EST)

"It exists" is not the concern here. The issue is: has it been officially announced? If no, then it's a leak, no matter how "real" it is. - TBR (talk) 01:25, 6 November 2018 (EST)

Well, I guess there's not really much else I can say. With that said, I don't want to continue this discussion, so good day, or night depending on where you're at. @StormJet I apologize if what I said got your thing here derailed. -MisterKenneth (talk) 01:37, 6 November 2018 (EST)

Re the above conversation, if people are removing your edits repeatedly, then the proper course of action is to talk it out on the talk page in question. I didn't remove the edits in question, so I can't give any more insight into their removal than anyone other than the person who did so. --abates (talk) 15:09, 11 November 2018 (EST)

Possible use of multiple accounts?

Hey, would you be so kind as to run an IP check on User:‎Kampungpisangadrian and make sure they aren’t the same IP as User:Memeuser17? I know it’s a weird request and I’m probably just being paranoid, but something about the whole thing feels off. Like, Kampung doesn’t make any edits for 8 months, then Memeuser suddenly tries to start something on their talk page unprovoked, and that just HAPPENS to be when Kampung comes back? Like I said, I’m probably just being paranoid and I'll gladly admit it if I'm wrong, but there’s something weird about the whole thing and I just wanna make sure. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 13:57, 29 November 2018 (EST)

Those users both edited from the same IP address and with the exact same user agent, so I'm going to go out on a limb here and say they are most likely one and the same person. --abates (talk) 16:07, 29 November 2018 (EST)

Titan page move

Thanks for moving the Titan page. Could you get the talk page as well? I moved the messages from it onto the Titan (IDW) talk page, so it should be safe to relocate. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 21:53, 7 January 2019 (EST)

Thanks, done! --abates (talk) 23:53, 7 January 2019 (EST)

Another possible multi-account vandal

Hey, if you get the chance, could you run an IP check on Special:Contributions/Tritusk and Special:Contributions/Firetrack? Both are relatively new, and both are attempting to erase instances of characters dying or inserting claims of "but they were fine", not unlike the already-banned Special:Contributions/StarPlat. Would rather nip this in the bud early before they start messing up more pages. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 18:56, 15 January 2019 (EST)

Tritusk appears to be the same person as Special:Contributions/Hipfiree, which is kinda bizarre because Hipfiree is not banned, (they were banned briefly when we thought they were StarPlat) and in fact edited a few days before they created the Tritusk account. --abates (talk) 20:32, 15 January 2019 (EST)

Weird. So I guess Firetrack is clean then? -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 20:35, 15 January 2019 (EST)

Firetrack I'm not sure on. It's possible that they could be Hipfiree but the evidence there isn't conclusive enough for my liking. --abates (talk) 20:46, 15 January 2019 (EST)

Fair enough, then. I'll keep an eye on things just to be safe. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 20:48, 15 January 2019 (EST)

User:NovaStorm also seems to have a bee up their bonnet about changing statements of character deaths. Possible alternate account of one of these guys? --Khajidha (talk) 16:15, 16 January 2019 (EST)

Yep. I'm also more confident about Firetrack than I was yesterday, so I've banned that account too. --abates (talk) 16:21, 16 January 2019 (EST)

Wikia to Fandom changeover

Based on my cursory research, it seems the migration from Wikia to Fandom is complete, as every Wikia link I've tested so far has redirected to the .fandom URL. When you get the chance, could you update the interwiki linking system to point directly to the Fandom URL instead? Also, do we have a full list of wikia sites with their own domains that we support interwiki linking to? I know Memory-Alpha is one of them, but that redirects to a .fandom URL now as well instead of memory-alpha.org, so it wouldn't hurt to make sure those are up to date too. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 14:23, 24 January 2019 (EST)

It looks like there are some which haven't yet been migrated - e.g. community.wikia.com is still non-migrated. They will probably make an announcement on the staff blog when the migration is finished so once they do that, it should be safer. Our Interwiki for Memory-Alpha points to the .org domain, so so long as that's still redirecting, we should be all right. --abates (talk) 14:38, 24 January 2019 (EST)

Based on this help entry, it sounds like the changeover to Fandom will be finished by February 4th, so we should be safe to update things after that date. (Side note, do we want to change the prefix to "fandom:" instead of "wikia:"? I don't mind going in and editing any articles accordingly to update them if we do.). -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 01:10, 26 January 2019 (EST)

We can easily just make two prefixes so people can use either wikia: or fandom: depending. --abates (talk) 04:21, 26 January 2019 (EST)

This may be a stupid question, but why do you want wikia interwiki links? Even if you want to link out to wikia/"fandom", interwiki links aren't nofollow'd (unlike standard external links), so they help wikia's SEO. (Similar but lesser point about changing existing links from wikia to fandom - or memory-alpha.org to the fandom link - since they redirect anyway) - Mammalian Verisimilitude (talk) 12:00, 26 January 2019 (EST)

I mean, if you're asking why we'd want to point directly to a page instead of a redirect, that's just good policy from a web accessibility perspective. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 12:54, 26 January 2019 (EST)

I don't believe the SEO impact of us linking to, say, Memory Alpha would be significant. In most cases there's going to be one or two links on a page with hundreds of links to other TFWiki pages, and any pagerank juice is shared evenly between all of those links so we're talking about 1/100 of the total from that page. That said, admittedly my knowledge of how Google's SEO system works may be a little out of date of if anyone has more recent knowledge, feel free to join in this thread! --abates (talk) 14:09, 26 January 2019 (EST)

Sounds like you want to actively hurt Wikia/Fandom. Why should we want to do that? --Khajidha (talk) 14:14, 26 January 2019 (EST)