Talk:Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)

Where's Chromia? She is confirmed! I added her why is she gone? And what about Ratchet? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Godziboy1993 (talk • contribs).

They haven't been "confirmed". They got stolen from factories in China. That is not an official confirmation. --Detour 15:58, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Ok, this is ridiculous. Yes it IS AN OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION. She was even in the god damn trailer! And why isn't Ratchet and Longhaul up on that either? Stolen from factories give me a break. Put them back on. Godziboy1993 21:55, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Oh and Barricade is on there too. His toy was stolen from a factory. Why the hell not Chromia, Ratchet, and Longhaul.

Because it is illegally acquired information. That simple. We'll add them once Roberto Orci confirms their presence, or Hasbro releases official photographs of the toys. To find out more, refer to Help:Official info. --Detour 22:10, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Paramount pictures cast list.

This poster looks like a pretty official cast list. FFN, you think it's dubious? - Starfield 06:50, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

Well, for a Starter, Overload should be added to the list of constructicons. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GUIGUI (talk • contribs) 17:20, 2 April 2009 EDT.

I agree, they didn't pull that name out of the æther. But it might be premature to spell it "Longhaul", or move The Fallen to the Decepticon column, or move Jetfire to the Autobot column. - Starfield 21:31, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

I really do not understand how this is set up. Why is Demolisher a seperate character? Who is the 7th constructicon when only six are shown combining into Devastator?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Godziboy1993 (talk • contribs) 19:36, 6 April 2009 EDT.

Who knows? - Starfield 19:40, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

Japanese world premiere.

With the premiere in Japan, does that mean ROTF characters are [[Category:Japanese-original characters]]? - Starfield 10:50, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

You'd better be joking. - Chris McFeely 11:12, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

Transmitter at official site

What was the necessary stuff to log in again for the Transmitter? I can't remember if it was Derik or Detour that had posted up some things for it... Not that it's updated much. << >> --Lonegamer78 23:45, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

How about an actual article?

This thing is basically a list of info. Why isn't this a bit more organized, like on Wikipedia? And is the stuff about the Writers' Strike really neccesary? I'd edit it, but I do not appear to have that privilege. Jim Java 16:56, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

Yes it's a list of info, because right now all we have is info. It's better than Wikipedia's page because it focuses on confirmed news only and not rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. Yes, the stuff about the Writer's Strike is necessary, since it did affect production of Revenge Of The Fallen. No, you can't edit it, because the page is protected on account of so many anonymous users and new users making additions based on rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. --Detour 17:28, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

In about a month and a half, this article will get a total top-to-bottom re-write, when... y'know... we see the movie. Till then, there's not a lot of point in dramatic changes; they'd just be swept away under the deluge of information that we'll have when the film is released.

That said, I feel your pain. "Writer such-and-such has envisioned a storyline involving the Constructicons" seems like a ridiculous bit of information to have right upfront at this point in the game, when we've seen them in the trailer. ETA: If you'd seriously like to have a go at cleaning it up, you could always set up a temp page somewhere. -- Repowers 17:33, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

At the same time, I don't really see the point of doing a page like the Wikipedia. We'll never be able to compete with them in terms of sheer information on things like production, and were are restricted by our rule of only using information that has been released by Hasbro/Takara, Dreamworks, Paramount and their partners (and they generally don't release much in the way of information). Besides, as I've understood this wiki, our focus is on the content of the fiction itself and the characters starring in it, which is what differentiates us from the Wikipedia. We're not really here to tell people about how the director of photography and camera personnel filmed the 2007 movie on a mechanical bull or something. --FFN 21:06, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

Could we at least organize this in paragraph form? It wouldn't take very long, but it would look way better. Just thought I'd ask. Jim Java 20:50, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

I don't think that would make the article better at all. The article as-is is a list of things. Making that list into a big block of text is not going to help anything. We don't need to pretend that this article isn't a list. --ItsWalky 21:18, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

I'm gonna throw my hat in here and tell you to just wait. It's like Repowers said, give just over a month and the entire article will be totally redone top to bottom, just like you want Jim Java. Until then look at the Wikipedia article, I'm pretty sure they have it broken into paragraphs and make it an "actual article" as I'm sure you're insinuating.--AWT88 22:22, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

UK Release 19th June = World Premiere

As I write this the UK will be getting this a whole week before the States. So like, can we come and get started on the articles, or will there be Dubya-like emphasis on US civil (=Spoiler) liberties? 82.7.126.27 12:58, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

I figure it'll be okay if articles are filled out following the UK release. After all, most of Animated Season 2 aired a week early in Canada, and we still updated those pages even though they hadn't aired stateside yet. As long as media is officially released in a language we can understand (unlike that whole Dubai incident last year), it's fair game. -- Cyberlink420 01:40, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

World premiere was today, June 8, in Japan

As the title says. Do we need a new, updated "No spoilers" disclaimer in this article and maybe also on the main page?--Nevermore 16:35, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

Yes and yes and then some. We should have heavy disclaimage on ALL the in-movie character pages, and also make them--as well as, obviously, this page itself--off-limits to anonymous editors. (Also, holy shit, am I actually editing on IE now? Miracle!) --Thylacine 2000 16:47, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

Score

Should the score's info be added? Samples are up at Amazon Germany's listing. --Lonegamer78 20:04, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

Bay wanted to have German soldiers in the movie, German government said "no"

Source: Press conference from German premiere

Translation:

Bundeswehr soldiers in the cinematic end fight between humans and alien machines: That's how Hollywood warhorse director Michael Bay ("Armageddon") had planned it for his action flick Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.

But German authorities threw a monkey wrench in his plans. The Bundeswehr soldiers at an Air Force base in the American desert state of New Mexico had been thrilled, "but unfortunately, the German government said no", the 44 year old director said at Sunday's German premiere of the science fiction flick. The cooperation with the US Department of Defense, on the other hand, hadn't been a problem - he had a direct connection there.

Will probably work it into the article once we go from pre-release to full article.--Nevermore 19:14, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

What? Germany isn't allowed to -have- a military.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 173.11.36.165 (talk • contribs) 10:02, 24 June 2009.

You are mistaken, sir.--Rosicrucian^Talk 11:29, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Errors and Inconsistencies

I've just seen the film. I'm not sure how the final ROTF page will look, but if the previous movie is used as a template, then I can suggest NOW that the Errors/Inconsistencies section be spawned off onto its own page? Drmick 19:52, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

Basic outline here: Revenge of the Fallen (film)/outline. Not sure when we should drop it in, but it should be soon. -- Repowers 20:13, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

Unnamed Decepticons

Do we have any way of getting names for the unnamed decepticons, like the Ravage hairballs seen in the trailer and comic-books? The movie's not going to help, as it was incredibly lax on providing names for characters.KrytenKoro 03:31, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Mysterious voice credits

Frank Welker is credited as "Reedman" along with Soundwave and Ravage, and Kevin Michael Richardson is both one of the Primes and "Skipjack". Do we know who these characters are? It doesn't help that both actors are known for Random Monster Noises roles. -LV 03:53, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Edit: I may mean Soundwave, Devastator and Reedman. The point is, Reedman: WTF? -LV 04:06, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

I too saw those credits and wondered... but, I could also swear that I remember someone, maybe Ironhide, saying the name "Skipjack" aloud at one point in the film (at one of the base scenes, maybe?). For the life of me, though, I can't think of the context it was in. --

Did we happen to catch credits for Demolishor, Rampage, or any other growly-roary-types? - Chris McFeely 07:24, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Devastator clearly said "DEVASTATOR!" during the big overhead shot of him slowly bearing down on the twins. --FFN 07:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

I definitely interpreted that as Megatron shouting "DEVASTATOR!" at Devastator for no particular reason. As for Demolishor...he must have had a voice actor, since he had actual dialogue, but I don't recall seeing it. -LV 11:15, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, I couldn't decide if the roar of "DEVASTATOR!" was Megatron, or if Devastator had decided to declare his own name for some reason (which wouldn't be that odd, given that Megatron did it in the first movie). - Chris McFeely 11:40, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

It sure sounded like Megatron's voice to me. --abates 17:16, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

I'm also with that Megatron's the one calling to Devastator. --Lonegamer78 01:45, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

Surely he was calling to get Devastator to stop playing with the humans and come wreck up the pyramid? 137.195.68.169 10:50, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

In the IMAX it was clearly Megatron based on where the sound was coming from. - Starfield 22:49, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

Demolisher is in the credits as Wheelbot. But I kept missing it. First time, some dickhead at the back started sticking his hands in front of the projector and blocking it. As for Devastator, he NEVER speaks. Megs yells Devastator's name. Welker just handled roars and snarls (some blatant Welker animal noises are in there)User:Eire 15.57 25th June 09

Reedman has to be the raptor-like thing formed by the Marble bots. He's a reed-thin man.

Sweet, nice to know he has a name. -Derik 11:41, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

This seems to be corroborated by the Decepticons DS game (not the best source, given the divergence of video game plots, but an official one): before the mission to steal the All Spark shard you're told that "Ravage and Reed Man" have been sent ahead to secure the target... presumably referencing the skinny con's theft of the object in question. --Inevitable Betrayal 17:44, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

Any chance you can get an exact quote on that? (Because it seems to present Reedman has his own character, rather than a remote probe controlled by Ravage, and I'd like to be able to cite it.) -Derik 17:56, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

I'm afraid not. The dialogue popped up on the map screen between missions instead of within the mission itself, so it's not replayable, and I was surprised enough by it the first time I didn't think to write it down. I could start another file and play through to that point again (though I'd rather not, it's a bit of a letdown compared to the first movie's DS games), but at the moment all I can say for sure is that it referred to them as a duo, "Ravage and Reed Man," with Reed Man parsed as two words like that, not one.--Inevitable Betrayal 02:35, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

Well jeez! Sounded like a people-name! I wonder who "Skipjack" is, then? He... he couldn't be the little guy who gets killed for parts, could be? That guy didn't speak words, but he did make a sort of cry/yelp of protest as he was set upon. - Chris McFeely 17:46, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

That was one of the film's legions of Constructicons. Probably not a "Skyjack." -Derik 17:54, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

Skipjack. But, eh, i'm just tossin' it out there. The identity of the sacrificial guy does not really seem to be confirmed - people are just assuming he's a Constructicon because the other three were Long Haul, Mixmaster and Rampage, and Hightower's vehicle was on the barge, but no-one's actually identified the guy based on his physical robot appearance (and as a dirty great crane, Hightower would hardly be "the little one"). - Chris McFeely 17:58, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

I paid attention to the "little one"'s silhouette when I saw the movie again yesterday, and it most resembled Scrapper. Particularly its skinny legs. --ItsWalky 18:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

Let's see, that was about 40 minutes in so... *runs up MP3 of the movie's audio*

No, the 'parts' con doesn't make more than a few Ewok burbles.

Could he be the jackhammer-Decepticon that kidnapped Ron and Judy? -Derik 18:14, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

As it transpires, yes. This interview (search for "Skipjack") makes it pretty clear that Skipjack was the working name for the red bulldozer identified onscreen as Rampage. So it's a Demolishor/Wheelbot situation, apparently. Disappointing resolution, especially since it still leaves us with two bulldozers named Rampage. -LV 12:47, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

I.... theeeenk you may have got your link wrong, there? - Chris McFeely 15:10, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

He probably meant this one. -Derik 15:22, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

THe sad thing is that I can't even come up with a funny rationale for the link to AcipHex here. (I was originally linking it elsewhere because the TV won't stop telling me to try Ass Effects - guess it stayed in my clipboard.) FAiled. -LV 16:25, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

No, Starscream specifically calls him Rampage. (And he is Rampage.) --ItsWalky 18:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

Wasn't Devastator already formed by that point? -Derik 18:19, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

Sure, but there were lots of Constructicons running around the same time as Devastator was formed (the group from the barge turn up with Ravage partway through the fight). --abates 18:31, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

It just sounds like a likely name for his color-swap. (Which in this case, i guess... was forming Devastator.) -Derik 19:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

but no-one's actually identified the guy based on his physical robot appearance

Some douchebag posted bootleg screencaps of the Laurentian Abyss sequence on his blog.

While not appropriate for inclusion here as a primary source, useful for IDing nonetheless. -Derik 22:24, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

I should probably post what I did on LJ here. Re: the last photo - those claws don't look anything alike. That's no game-only generic. --ItsWalky 22:53, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

And I should probably post what I did on LJ here. The game-model and movie-model for Constructicon Scout are different (thus the clamps not matching) but Constructicon Scout is definitely in the movie. -Derik 23:13, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

As Walky so bluntly put it-- "It's scrapper."

Or rather- the Constructicon Scout is based on Scrapper. An extra layer of confusion is added because the Scrapper toy lacks the giant arms that the CS has-- and the character in the movie has. But since there's only one Scraper toy that Transformes, apparently we're treating his truncated arms as a concession to toy engineering.

So would it be more accurate to say that Scrapper is a Constructicon Scout? Or is physically identical to them? -Derik 18:06, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

I don't know if this helps, but in the somewhat inaccurate comic version of the movie, Ravage, Long Haul, and Scrapper are clearly seen jumping off the boat, so it may mean Scrapper is "the little one?71.199.127.210 13:37, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

It's UpGrade Time

So, can we start working on this now or what? User:Eire 12.44 June 24 09

Yes. --ItsWalky 09:36, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Foreign titles

Are foreign titles usually included if they just mean "Revenge of The Fallen" in their own language? - Starfield 11:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

They shouldn't be. --ItsWalky 11:45, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

The frensh versin is called "transformers: the revenge"(le révange?)--Sunjumper 11:47, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

That's different enough. --ItsWalky 11:48, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

The Brazilian title (Portuguese) renders as "The Revenge of the Defeated" when I put it through Google Translate. Is that different enough?--Apcog 12:35, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Inasmuch as "defeated" doesn't have the same additional connotations of "falling from grace" or "killed in battle" as the original English, I'd say so.137.195.68.169 10:47, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

Trivia cull

One is long overdue in my opinion. Much of this "trivia" is snippets of news on who was cast, and has since been unequivocally confirmed and properly organized in the locations it should be.--Rosicrucian^Talk 21:33, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Not-Bonecrusher

I'm assuming that the guy who wasn't Bonecrusher was actually Constructicon Scout. Is that a safe guess to go with? -Derik 11:46, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

I didn't see any Bonecrusher in the film. People just say they saw Bonecrusher's altmode, the Buffalo. No robot mode, far as I'm aware. --ItsWalky 11:48, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

I think he was running around during the Egypt battle. You could see him standing behind some pillars. Since there were multiple Constructicons running around, this was evidently was not the very-dead Bonecrusher.67.242.198.238 12:07, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

It was definitely a use of the CGI Bonecrusher model in robot mode. 82.7.126.27 12:09, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

*swears* I was hoping it was the Constructicon Scout, but he has a different robot mode. -Derik 12:14, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

You can definitely see Bonecrusher's vehicle mode rolling in with the other Decepticons. I don't recall seeing his robot mode, but then again, he looks quite similar in robot mode to a bunch of Constructicons. --FFN 12:42, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

So I saw it again in IMAX. That's definitely Bonecrusher rolling in.

1. His remains weren't among those being disposed of after the first movie.
2. We've got a toy bio stating he survived.
3. He's in the ^&*( second film.

Baring Hasbro releasing a redeco and declaring this a new character, it looks like Bonecrusher really did survive. And until that happens, I'm going with the face-value reading and removing the "a Bonecrusher lookalike" note in the cast list. -Derik 00:01, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

Good points! I agree. - Starfield 00:05, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

I disagree. I think "a toy bio stating he survived" is completely irrelevant, as we got one of those for Jazz, too. That was definitely Bonecrusher's vehicle mode in ROTF, but I sure as hell don't think it was actually Bonecrusher, any more than I think that the helicopter was Blackout. --KilMichaelMcC 00:23, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

That is your personal canon. The fiction says otherwise. The toy bio is completely irrelevant iff it contradicts the movies. This time the movies back it up. It is willful blindness to say Bonecrusher isn't in the movie when he is right there. - Starfield 09:28, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

It's willful blindness to assume similar alt means same guy, in a movie where a guy with Blackout's body-type is quite prominent. G1 colourd Jazz's bio says he survives. Brawl's got a ROTF repaint. He was decapitated and had his whole head smashed in. He's dead Jim. Writing a whole section of fiction you made up on Bonecrusher's page is madness. Give the toy bio it's own section and a note that we see his vehicle mode among the protoforms and leave it at that. Eire 15.28 30 June 09 (UTC)

Character profiles

I'm starting to see descriptions of the character's movie role around the wiki. Is this okay yet? Crow T. Robot 14:32, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

So long as you use the proper spoiler tags.--Rosicrucian^Talk 14:34, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

What about the articles that have the "do not add information" tags? Can we start to take those down? Crow T. Robot 14:40, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

The coming soon tags? Yeah, those were just waiting for the film release.--Rosicrucian^Talk 14:46, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

Our policy on new releases is that if the media has been officially released in a language you can understand, you are well within your rights to be write up a summary, as long as you put up a spoiler tag. Like Wikipedia, we urge people to be bold, but be smart. -- SFH 14:55, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

More Quotes

What other quotes do you want to use (i.e: "I RISE, YOU FALL." from Optimus Prime)?

I really don't think the umpteenth regurgitation of the TFTM-quote-that-will-not-die is worth singling out for praise. --ItsWalky 01:09, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

Five/Six Contacts Error

Wouldn't this NOT be an error, since Ravge ejected Scalpel from his chest, thereby replacing Hightower? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.179.155.170 (talk • contribs) 07:44, 28 June 2009.

You mean Scrapper, who was the one killed. And yeah, that's what I thought while watching the film, though I wondered if Scalpel was actually large enough to register? --KilMichaelMcC 07:48, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

HAY GUYS - Hightower and Scrapper WEREN'T EVEN THERE. Four Constructicons jumped in - Red Rampage, Long Haul, Mixmaster and Small Excavator Guy. Unnamed dude was killed. Megatron, Scalpel and Ravage make six contacts surfacing.

Ahem, from Scalpel's page "...Using parts "donated" by Hightower..."

Anywho, the point is, wouldn't Scalpel's presence nullify the error? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.179.155.170 (talk • contribs) 08:41, 28 June 2009.

It is neither Scrapper nor Hightower. I have since edited articles and have removed the error. The unnamed is a small Volvo excavator similar to Demolishor's vehicle mode as he was incorrectly depicted in the ROTF adaptation comic. It did not look like Hightower's truss crane. Also, sign off on your comments, it is difficult to know who is saying what. See the signature button next to the crossed out W? Click that. Thanks. --FFN 09:24, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

Adding extra confusion: The possibility that the extra reading was Blackout.

On my second viewing, it really looks like The Doctor strikes the shard in Megatron's chest rather than permanantly inserting it. Maybe they did revive Blackout. -Derik 00:18, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

Grindor's from space. Megatron left the Constructicons, Ravage, and the Doctor far behind on Earth, and he traveled allll the way up to Saturn to visit the Nemesis. And what's he find in the Nemesis? Starscream and hatchlings. And next we see Megatron on Earth, he's with Starscream. And another guy. That guy was a hatchling. That guy was Grindor. --ItsWalky 00:20, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

He's also with The Doctor, who should be with Ravage and the Constructicons.

I don't actually think the Helicopter is Blackout-- I mean he has a different altmode fergods sake. If Bay intended it to be Blackout he'd have used the same helicopter, regardless whether it'd been retired or not. And anyway- HASBRO clearly thinks that's Grindor.

I'm just trying to figure out what might've been goign through the movie production's head with that funny number. -Derik 01:08, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

I imagine they filmed the blips on the radar approximately nine months before animating/rendering/writing the scene of the guys underwater. WHOOPS. --ItsWalky 01:09, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

Given that they went to the trouble of getting Welker for Soundwave and the forgot to put a vocoder over him, I could believe it. -Derik 01:46, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

Though considering Welker apparently didn't like what the G1 cartoon did to his Soundwave voice, it's possible he asked Bay to not process it, and Bay was cool with that. --FFN 14:23, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

Can I ask why it is stated as fact that Scalpel is too small to be detected by the submarine in the trivia section? Isn't that just speculation?Thelastallosaur 15:32, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

Graham

Whatever happened to that Agent Graham guy. Was he even in it? He is still in the credits on the official ROTF website. - Starfield 14:21, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

Wasn't he that one British guy with NEST? --KilMichaelMcC 15:49, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

Yes, he wore a brown beret. 79.68.235.108 16:01, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

He's the Tom Cruise lookalike with about three lines.--Nevermore 03:25, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

And he wasn't an "agent", he was supposedly a member of the SASF, a fictionalized version of the Special Air Service. --FFN 14:20, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

Frenzy's head

This error keeps on getting added/deleted endlessly, some official consensus would be good. His head didn't blow up, it was sliced it half, so it's not terribly unreasonable that the two pieces were glued or welded back together. - Cattleprod 22:06, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

Images?

I happen to have a downloaded version of Revenge of The Fallen (I DID go to the movie, and I AM going to buy the dvd, so stop whining!), would you like me to make some screencaps and upload them? (Particularly Reedman and Arcee miss clear images)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by ThiAthEhn (talk • contribs) 13:58, 1 July 2009.

The enthusiasm and offer of help are appreciated, but unfortunately screencaps from a pirated download would get us in deep doo-doo. Thanks for asking before uploading, though.--Rosicrucian^Talk 14:04, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

To elaborate, we have a policy against using images or information from unofficial, leaked or stolen sources, which obviously includes screencaps from a blurry camjob of Revenge of the Fallen. The DVD will be out in 3-4 months anyway. We can wait. --FFN 14:18, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

We could use screens taken from the trailers and released clips and such though right? Or realsed screencaps? Eire 13.41 July 02 (UTC)

Absolutely. As long as it's a thing that was officially approved and released, go nuts. Hooper_X 08:48, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center location

Regarding the grafting of the Steven_F._Udvar-Hazy_Center to the Boneyard: it should be noted that the UHC is in Chantilly, VA, rather outside of Washington, DC proper. There is actually more space next to the hangar, where Jetfire would have exited if they didn't have the compositing transition to the Boneyard. However, while the area's grassy and flat, it's surrounded by small chunks of forest (see [1], it looks right out over the hangar entrance he would have exited from), and is further connected to Dulles Airport in the distance. :) I can only assume they went with the visual assumption that "hey, it's a museum, they'd have lots of mothballed planes around, and what's there right now is boring", but that's purely speculation on my part. Either way you slice it, it's still an "error"...

I just find this amusing, given that the UHC is one of the IMAX theaters where ROTF is being shown... :) 96.231.155.47 22:31, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

And there's a HUGE IMAX logo in the movie...--Nevermore 13:41, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Caption theme

Since the first film used a TF:TM theme, why not use the abandoned Star Wars theme here. Eire 13.41 July 02 (UTC)

Specifically, Empire. Kurtzman and Orci even said they were trying to match it in terms of upping the menace and having the Fallen be like the Emperor. --Thylacine 2000 09:01, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Suggestion - lock this article so only registered users can edit.

I am sure we are all sick and tired of anonymous people coming in and making stupid, incorrect, poorly spelled edits to our a article. Let's just lock this down so that we only need to watch out for newbie editors. --FFN 18:09, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Seconded. --Lonegamer78 19:02, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

The motion's seconded. Aye. Does motion carry?--AWT88 20:37, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

French title

Could you add back the fact that the French title has no 2 in it (at least, not in the Quebec version. You tell 'em, Detour), because some IP (80.236.81.91) undid my edit. Probably thought that because all other foreign titles had a 2, French was no different. Anyway I would do it myself if it wasn't for the semi-protection (which I am totally for). I know it's kind of silly to ask other people to do modifications for me, but please. 66.131.29.196 21:08, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Êtes-vous certains? -Derik 21:14, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

We indeed do not have a 2 in our Transformers title in Quebec. Maybe it's just France? --Detour 21:35, 2 July 2009 (EDT)`

Non-teaser trailer supports this: [2] --Detour 21:39, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Les Français sont toujours causé des problèmes. Peut-être qu'ils pensent qu'il est numérotée en métrique? Si le film a utilisé un chiffre romain ils se seraient probablement merde leur pantalon et ensuite les manger. -Derik 21:48, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Please stop butchering my language. --Detour 21:50, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Seconded. --Ascendron 21:52, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Ce n'est pas de ma faute! Il est le poisson vivant dans mon oreille! En tout cas, de véritables langues sont basés sur ECMAScript. -Derik 22:01, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

"English, dude. English." --Lonegamer78 22:33, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Thanks. Oh, and Derik, please stop. It kinda hurts me as a Frenchie-Canuck to see that. Plus, you're probably using internet translation, which as you can see is quite pitiful. Nice one LoneGamer, BTW. I couldn't have said it better. 66.131.29.196 20:45, 3 July 2009 (EDT)