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I looked at the G1 universal streams and noticed a critical flaw. The G1 cartoon is missing. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:07, 18 October 2010 (EDT) | I looked at the G1 universal streams and noticed a critical flaw. The G1 cartoon is missing. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:07, 18 October 2010 (EDT) | ||
:That isn't a comprehensive list of all known universes, only of those whose designation has been given in an official source. If no such source exists for the toon, it wouldn't be listed. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:09, 18 October 2010 (EDT) | :That isn't a comprehensive list of all known universes, only of those whose designation has been given in an official source. If no such source exists for the toon, it wouldn't be listed. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:09, 18 October 2010 (EDT) | ||
::But, come on, it ''the cartoon'' that everyone grew up with! I understand that even though there isn't a reliable source we can't put it in there (ignoring the massive amount of citation needed tags), but if we did wouldn't we put it in there? --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 13:56, 18 October 2010 (EDT) | |||
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That's right. Even Takara stuff is using this system now. Dude! --ItsWalky 14:41, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
- Wow. Maybe Ichikawa again? We assumed he was responsible for the material used in that World of the Transformers feature back in 2007. --FFN 14:52, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
- I require links! - Chris McFeely 15:36, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
- There are none. Peeps just know (people who can read) Japanese! --ItsWalky 15:47, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
- Well, then! I require... tacos! - Chris McFeely 15:48, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
- Here: From Here to Alternity/src --ItsWalky 00:39, 3 April 2009 (EDT)
- Well, then! I require... tacos! - Chris McFeely 15:48, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
- There are none. Peeps just know (people who can read) Japanese! --ItsWalky 15:47, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
Bulletbike (G2)'s tech spec bio has its own Universal Stream of Primax 095.0 Beta. Does that mean it isn't even in continuity with other tech spec bios, such as Drench (G2)'s which would presumably be Primax 093.0 Beta? - Starfield 18:53, 9 August 2009 (EDT)
- It'd be in continuity with other tech spec bios from 1995! --ItsWalky 11:12, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
...wait. Does that mean the Allspark Almanac was actually written by Shattered Glass Jim Sorenson and Bill Forster? --Andrusi
- Only in-universe. Out of universe, it was written by the non-Shattered Glass versions of us.--Jimsorenson 12:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
- Shattered Glass Jim Sorenson doesn't put billions of in-jokes in his writing, because he doesn't know how to read!--RosicrucianTalk 12:07, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
- But he apparently knows how to write...? Maybe he dictates to SG Bill Forster.--Apcog 12:24, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
- Shattered Glass Jim Sorenson doesn't put billions of in-jokes in his writing, because he doesn't know how to read!--RosicrucianTalk 12:07, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
- Thanks guys, you have now totally melted my brain. Dead Metal 12:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
Is there a universal stream for TransTech itself? Or do they consider themselves above that sort of thing? I guess they'd be ### Epsilon, but they don't technically fit into a continuity family, do they? --Xaaron 20:06, 30 December 2009 (EST)
What is the origin of these names, anyway? We know how the numbering system works, and there's a note explaining where they got the name Quadwal (which is actually pretty funny), but what about the rest of them? - Arborday 13:33, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
- Can't figure out the others, but "Primax" for Generation 1 seems quite straightforward. One meaning of "prime" is "first", and the -ax ending is just to make it sound cool/foreign. --Khajidha 13:43, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
How the System works
Just making sure I understand the system. If for example, a new animated series came out this year, and it was a completely new continuity family, would it be:_____- 010.0 Alpha? I ask because I'm working on my owned fan-based Transformers series (non-profit of course)--Chipmonk328
- Almost. It would be: ______ x10.y Alpha, with x and y being the month and day the first episode was aired. If the first episode aired today (Feb 12, 2010), it would be: ______ 210.12 Alpha.--24.224.153.106 18:15, 12 February 2010 (EST)
- The numbers that feature zeros for x or y come from continuities where parts of the date are unknown or undefined. The G1 Marvel Comics continuity started in September 1984, but if there was any exact date in September, we don't know about it. If the comic was known to have been officially released on September 13, then it would be Primax 984.13 Gamma instead of Primax 984.0 Gamma. Similarly, Bulletbike came out "sometime in 1995," and if it was even in a specific month then we don't know about it, so he's just from Primax 095.0 Beta; if he'd had a "street date" of April 13, then it would be Primax 495.13 Beta. And if we didn't know when in 2007 the live-action movie came out, it'd be Tyran 007.0 Delta (or maybe just Tyran 07.0 Delta). --Andrusi
The Greek
- Just a thought. I don't know how the original writer (inventor) of the universal stream think, but Gamma is an equivalence to G, so it fit more to represent "game", while Kappa is an equivalence to K, which should used for "comic" ([ko mi k]). --TX55TALK 23:46, 25 June 2010 (EDT)
New continuity families
"Gargent—the Tonka GoBots continuity family. Xobitor—the, uh, Robotix continuity family." Does this mean what I think it means? --Khajidha 21:24, 1 July 2010 (EDT)
Japanese continuity
I just realized that with universal streams like Aurex 103.10 Alpha and Primax 787.3 Alpha that Japanese fiction has been canonized as part of the western multiverse. I find this both a bit confusing and, in the case of Primax 406.3 Eta, a bit unsettling.
Anyhow, this gives me an opportunity to ask how this works. "Primax 787.3 Alpha" is the Headmasters, and Headmasters is in continuity with a bunch of other things, like Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers and Car Robots etc. So is "Primax 787.3 Alpha" the Universal Stream for all of it? - Starfield 23:10, 26 July 2010 (EDT)
Sourcing
We probably ought to directly source where each named stream was mentioned. --M Sipher 23:27, 26 July 2010 (EDT)
G1 stream
I looked at the G1 universal streams and noticed a critical flaw. The G1 cartoon is missing. --LokitheGrammarNazi 10:07, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
- That isn't a comprehensive list of all known universes, only of those whose designation has been given in an official source. If no such source exists for the toon, it wouldn't be listed. --Khajidha 10:09, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
- But, come on, it the cartoon that everyone grew up with! I understand that even though there isn't a reliable source we can't put it in there (ignoring the massive amount of citation needed tags), but if we did wouldn't we put it in there? --LokitheGrammarNazi 13:56, 18 October 2010 (EDT)