Talk:Barack Obama

And the reason this is at "Barry" instead of Barack is....? --KilMichaelMcC 19:41, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

I'll venture to guess that 'Barry' is the only name he's been identified by in any media. Like how Nick Fury is at 'Nicholas' even though we know who it's supposed to be. - Cattleprod 19:45, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

Thus the quote in the reference that includes his-- oh, hold on... I quoted the other one.

Good catch 'kil, I'll add a quote on the other ref. -Derik 19:48, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

I'm confused about what the section on the Titan Comics stuff is there for. It doesn't appear to mention Obama at all. --KilMichaelMcC 01:25, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

Second on confusion as to why the Titan Comics is there as well, unless it's just using as reference (which doesn't quite make much sense). As to where "Barry" came from, it's from "Dreams of My Father" and this article mentions how Obama went from "Barry" to "Barack". --Lonegamer78 03:36, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

We seem to include president "numbers" for non-fictional presidents. The T.F.Allen note is because in a splinter timeline, Barry Obama is not the 44th President of the United States, someone else is. -Derik 03:44, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

That seems like, at most, a trivia note. Certainly shouldn't be a fiction section on this page if Obama himself doesn't appear in the Titan comic. --KilMichaelMcC 03:59, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

Yeah. I was going to move it to the trivia section, but couldn't quite figure out how I wanted to word it. So someone else can. Hooper_X 09:10, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

That's fine, I waffled on where to put it myself. -Derik 10:33, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

Wait, so is Obama actually in Revenge of the Fallen and not just on Leo's viral marketing site?

that's how I read it as well. At least I tried to read it as blood was shooting out my eyes, my head thrashing in a blind rage. Some clarification please?

Most of us haven't seen the film yet, and the ones that have seem to be offline or are declining to spoil. According to Bay, Obama is involved with the film somehow, and hopefully, his proper name is mentioned so we don't have to continue using this unintentionally insensitive name for this article. --FFN 23:42, 21 June 2009 (EDT)

I don't know if it's insensitive. He's "Barry" to his friends, according to most sources.--Rosicrucian^Talk 23:52, 21 June 2009 (EDT)

I thought during the election it was said while he was younger, he was referred to as Barry, but after learning more about the struggles of African-Americans, he preferred to be called Barack? --FFN 00:02, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

Presumably FFN find the use of a dimunitive for a powerful black man insensitive. I can't really disagree-- it's the same principle as calling someone "boy" or "that one," on a milder scale.

(Leo certainly didn't mean it that way. He self-identifies as black, apparently, so it's a familiar term for him, not a diminutive.) -Derik 00:38, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

As to whether or not the Prez is in the film: He's not, but "the president" is referred to several times by Galloway, and this is confirmed to be "President Obama" (no first name) by a news report at one stage. - Chris McFeely 05:43, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

If anyone is interested, we do have a source for "Barack Obama" by way of a press conference Robo-Warrior links to on [GiantEffingRobots.com. - Starfield 09:58, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

Chris, Obama is

definitely seen on screen during the film

Drmick 12:30, 22 June 2009 (EDT)