Talk:Nexus Prime
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I wouldn't mind not increasing traffic to that, um, non-Transformers related website. - Starfield 20:18, 30 May 2009 (EDT)
- Well, Critical Name Research Failure is the sort of thing we tend to find news-worthy, and I'm not sure how else to cite it... --Jeysie 20:27, 30 May 2009 (EDT)
- As a side note, at least as of today this wiki page has pulled ahead of the, shall we say, "original" Nexus Maximus page. -- Dark T Zeratul 05:24, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
So..... ummm in the Club comics he is a Prime now (Nexus Prime) ....... there goes all the jokes.... ho huh........ Protoman 12:07, 27 September 2009 (EDT)
- Source please. Let's make this better, £5 if it's not leaked.Metal Gear NOIZE 14:26, 27 September 2009 (EDT)
- Er, his source is probably just what he said it was: the club comics. Specifically Reunification: Part 5, which according to the TFCC webpage the first-class subscribers should be getting right now. (As a lowly third-classer, I have to wait.) --Jeysie 14:30, 27 September 2009 (EDT)
- Yup 's from the mag. And to officially raise the question, didn't we establish that "in fiction" names trump "on package" names for the wiki? That would mean this should move, Yes? (Or does unintentionally hilarious names trump in fiction names?) --ZacWilliam 07:29, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- I'd speculate that, hilarious name or no, they were probably always intending to call him "Nexus Prime" in the story itself (since being one of the 13, he should be a Prime), and just had to make a concession for the toy since Hasbro are persnickity about what "Prime" gets put on. - Chris McFeely 08:29, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- Yup 's from the mag. And to officially raise the question, didn't we establish that "in fiction" names trump "on package" names for the wiki? That would mean this should move, Yes? (Or does unintentionally hilarious names trump in fiction names?) --ZacWilliam 07:29, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- I always thought it was the other way around... toy trumps fiction as the official name. (Or is that only for which franchise to put people in?) --Jeysie 09:05, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- Naw, it's always been fiction-first. "Beast Changer", and all that. I don't think we have anyone at their toy-name if they have a different in fiction. - Chris McFeely 10:19, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- Yup, fiction trumps toys for us, always has. --Jimsorenson 12:19, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- That's... not true, really, otherwise we wouldn't have "Brawl (Movie)" or "Jolt (Movie)", neither of which I think should be moved. It's just exceedingly rare for the circumstances to arise where a toy is named first then the later fiction decides to name them something else (or, well, Brawl's bizarre case). In almost every instance, the fiction goes with the names pre-set by the toys, since in most instances the toys come first and fiction is crafted around it. Toys of characters developed for fiction first are a fairly recent and still pretty rare occurrence, and obviously, they're going to shoot for the name the character was given first when they name the toy. Nexus here, we know the backstory that they always wanted "Nexus Prime", and Hasbro's recent reluctance to "water down" the Prime designation, so the current name here I'm okay with. It's not a 100% every-time rule... it's just generally the way naming works in this franchise based on real-world chronology... which I consider the bigger trump card, and even that's not absolute. --M Sipher 13:06, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- You are of course correct. I guess the actual policy is something more akin to 'the most prominent name for the character,' taking toys and fiction and out of universe info into account.--Jimsorenson 22:19, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- Not particularly - surely, to pick one example, Overhaul (Cybertron) would be at Leobreaker if that was the case, yes? - SanityOrMadness 23:34, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- What if the wiki were more flexible where you didn't have to pick one name to be the most prominent to be the name of the article. There would be a list of valid names and whatever one you searched for or linked from would appear at the top of the article with a list of other valid names directly below it. That would be cool. - Starfield 23:59, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- You mean like, if there were some way where if you typed in "Leobreaker" you were somehow... redirected... to Overhaul? My god, it's brilliant. :D Hooper_X 10:42, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
- What if the wiki were more flexible where you didn't have to pick one name to be the most prominent to be the name of the article. There would be a list of valid names and whatever one you searched for or linked from would appear at the top of the article with a list of other valid names directly below it. That would be cool. - Starfield 23:59, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- Not particularly - surely, to pick one example, Overhaul (Cybertron) would be at Leobreaker if that was the case, yes? - SanityOrMadness 23:34, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- You are of course correct. I guess the actual policy is something more akin to 'the most prominent name for the character,' taking toys and fiction and out of universe info into account.--Jimsorenson 22:19, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- That's... not true, really, otherwise we wouldn't have "Brawl (Movie)" or "Jolt (Movie)", neither of which I think should be moved. It's just exceedingly rare for the circumstances to arise where a toy is named first then the later fiction decides to name them something else (or, well, Brawl's bizarre case). In almost every instance, the fiction goes with the names pre-set by the toys, since in most instances the toys come first and fiction is crafted around it. Toys of characters developed for fiction first are a fairly recent and still pretty rare occurrence, and obviously, they're going to shoot for the name the character was given first when they name the toy. Nexus here, we know the backstory that they always wanted "Nexus Prime", and Hasbro's recent reluctance to "water down" the Prime designation, so the current name here I'm okay with. It's not a 100% every-time rule... it's just generally the way naming works in this franchise based on real-world chronology... which I consider the bigger trump card, and even that's not absolute. --M Sipher 13:06, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- Yup, fiction trumps toys for us, always has. --Jimsorenson 12:19, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- Naw, it's always been fiction-first. "Beast Changer", and all that. I don't think we have anyone at their toy-name if they have a different in fiction. - Chris McFeely 10:19, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- I always thought it was the other way around... toy trumps fiction as the official name. (Or is that only for which franchise to put people in?) --Jeysie 09:05, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
Nexus Prime seems to be his true form, does that mean he is like the opposite of a combiner, a disassemble-er? Instead of the minds of several Transformers gestalting into one, his mind fractures into five? Oh, and I vote for the move. - Starfield 12:14, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
Remember, we have a 30-day grace period enforced before we add Club Magazine material. --ItsWalky 21:06, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
- Correct, but surely this doesn't extend to something as simple as rectifying a name?--RosicrucianTalk 21:15, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
