Talk:Dynasty of Primes

... what on earth? Half the stuff in the "Revenge of the Fallen" section doesn't agree with the film version of the events, which are more-or-less chronicled at Tomb of the Primes. There couldn't have been a lone Prime who hid the Matrix in the Tomb of the Primes when we were shown a group of Primes melding their bodies into slag to MAKE the Tomb of the Primes to hide in the Matrix in the FIRST place. --Monzo 03:26, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

The info I got was from the novelization. If I was wrong, please correct. -- SFH 13:28, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

sol = sun?

Do they meen Sun with sol? because if they do meen the sun, the sun does not circle the earth.--Sunjumper 15:14, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

Merge proposal

So where would the combined page go? And how do we reconcile the differences between the movie and the adaptations? -- SFH 14:22, 25 July 2009 (EDT)

I think it should move to "Prime (ROTF)" so we can describe what a Prime is without starting off with a bias toward one medium or another. And we wouldn't reconcile anything, just describe what a Prime is in the movie and adaptations and leave it all unreconciled like the actual fiction is unreconciled. - Starfield 14:41, 25 July 2009 (EDT)

I still disagree with the need for a parenthetical. The term "Dynasty of Primes" encompasses every last Prime in the movie continuity. If we're going to merge, go with the official term that is the most inclusive.--Rosicrucian^Talk 16:25, 25 July 2009 (EDT)

Name for one of them

When Sam starts babbling Cybertronian knowledge in Astronomy class, one of the things that can be heard is "Sentinel Prime expedition." So it's possible one of them was named Sentinel Prime. ZeldaTheSwordsman 21:20, 28 July 2009 (EDT)

I'm not sure if it was Sentinel. Some of them are probably named things like Prima , Liege Maximo; after the Thirteen basically, except there was just seven instead. CH 12:58, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

The adaptations confirm it was Sentinel.--Rosicrucian^Talk 13:49, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

Any one in particular, just so we can source it and head-off confusion? -Derik 14:14, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

Both the novelization and issue two of the comic. Also, it just mentions "Sentinel Prime". For all we know, he isn't one of the original founders, and may just be a descendant like Optimus. -- SFH 14:16, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

Actually, he says it in the film as well. During the ramble the words Sentinel Prime are very clear, saying he proved something about the other dimensions, something scientific like that. We don't know if he's one of the original 7 or a descendant, but his existence is confirmed User:Eire 19.56 Oct 12 09 (UTC)

He says "the Sentinel Prime Expidition." It could be the name of the expedition, like "The Ark Expidition." And regardless we have no proof that this name refers to one of the 12/7 even if it does refer to an individual. -Derik 15:40, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

Mark of the Primes...

That funky little symbol at the beginning of the article--I think it's on the left side of movie!Optimus' forehead area, but sometimes it seems to be there and sometimes it isn't! Is this some kind of animation/rendering error? CH 03:45, 12 October 2009 (EDT) (I finally figured out the tildes! Doy!)

Difference with the adaptations

I only saw the movie once, after reading the adaptations (I was trying to enjoy the film and not looking for differences) but I don't think the stories are all that different. There is the number of Primes and how many are alive when they make the tomb. Anything else? - Starfield 00:01, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

Sometimes described as 12 prime initially, sometimes described as 13. If you start to get into the kids adaptions... the phrasing REALLY reads like the survivors except one sealed themselves in a tomb, and the last one returned to Cybertron and either begat or is Optimus Prime with his memory wiped. Or there was onyl one survivor who forged the tomb out of the parts of his fallen brothers...

You could dismiss the phrasing as bad, and not really indicating something different... but the story demonstrably is different in different c0ontinuities (number of Primes) so I'm reluctant to do so... I think the books do just say what they say. -Derik 00:12, 13 October 2009 (EDT)