Talk:The Transformers: All Hail Megatron
Bludgeon
On the AHM #15 thread on the IDW boards, Denton stated that Last Stand of the Wreckers will delve into what went down on Garrus-9 and why Bludgeon is present in Coda. Could someone update the article to represent that?
Evolutions?
Since this is yet another "Elseworld" for Transformers, is this series considered under the Evolutions umbrella?--RosicrucianTalk 00:22, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Not an AU. It's part of the main timeline. Basically, Autobots buggered off,and the cons have the run of the place. Far as I know, only bots on Earth are the Dinos, Hot Rod and Sunstreaker
- Takes place a year later. In reality it WAS written as an Elseworld-style alternate universe storyline, but was vaugley reworked to fit into the current storyline. Judging by the interview with the writer, the decision seemed to be made soley for the purposes of marketing - IDW were evidently worried about turning off new readers with the serialised nature of Furman's storyline, so they essentially put that on the backburner and started a new storyline, that's why the writer remarked that you can just jump into the storyline without prior knowledge of the previous books because, hey, they weren't written with them in mind anyway. --FFN 13:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
- Not an AU. It's part of the main timeline. Basically, Autobots buggered off,and the cons have the run of the place. Far as I know, only bots on Earth are the Dinos, Hot Rod and Sunstreaker
Oh fark
What the heck happened? --FFN 01:32, 19 March 2009 (EDT)
- What's up with the copy protection on this page? Do you have to be an admin or something to edit it now? Rod-E-Mace 19:50, 25 April 2009 (EDT)Rod-E-Mace
- It got hit by some angry fans a few days back, so unregistered users are restricted from editing it. It also restricts editing from very new editors. --ItsWalky 19:58, 25 April 2009 (EDT)
Ironhide
I don't think the listed "glitches" with Ironhide from AHM #13 are glitches.
- (1) Ironhide willing to die for Prime when they met, AHM #4, versus an initially antagonist relationship, AHM #13. There's no contradiction here. Ironhide's a good soldier, willing to die for a commanding officer, even if he doesn't agree with him. That flows perfectly with his character. His line from AHM #4, "I would have died for him, Jazz, even back then.", suggests this. One way of reading it, of course, is they had a bromance from the beginning. But another way is that Ironhide would've died for him even when they were butting heads. It shouldn't be called a glitch or an error just because there's one way to interpret it that makes things contradict.
- (2) There's no indication Optimus and Ironhide actually knew each other in Spotlight: Blurr. Ironhide vanished before Optimus appeared on panel. There was no interaction between them at all. All soldiers don't know each other personally, even if they happen to be at the same battle. When Optimus and Blurr converse over the dead Autobot, Piston, Optimus mentions having "met him once...briefly." This indicates they were not in the same "platoon" or close group and, by extension, all Autobots present at that battle were not in the same close group. Spotlight: Blurr only shows Ironhide and Optimus crossed paths briefly before the AHM #13 flashback -- the show Lost has mega-history of similar "crossed paths" that aren't actual meetings.
- (3) AHM #8 says nothing about Ironhide being ignored by other Autobots. It said he passed up promotions to stay in the thick of things. That in no way contradicts the idea that Optimus Prime listens to him. --Xaaron 21:13, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
- I agree with Xaaron. Trying to make up more inconsistencies just makes the page look more petty than it has to be. --ItsWalky 21:44, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
- Well at least now he's arguing beyond "they weren't in the exact same panel in Spotlight Blurr so they couldn't have known each other" as grounds to remove the whole thing. But yeah, his additional arguments make sense. --Detour 21:47, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
- Sue me. It's hard to make a complete argument on an editing blurb. :-) --Xaaron 21:58, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
- Well at least now he's arguing beyond "they weren't in the exact same panel in Spotlight Blurr so they couldn't have known each other" as grounds to remove the whole thing. But yeah, his additional arguments make sense. --Detour 21:47, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
Ironhide, Optimus and Spotlight Blurr
So Xaaron is saying that Prime and Ironhide weren't even together in Spotlight: Blurr.
While it's true they weren't present on the same panel, they were part of the same squad and indeed in the exact same place, at the same time, together, so saying they weren't together at that time is like saying Kyle Reese and the Terminator weren't actually fighting each other in the bar because Michael Biehn and Arnold Schwarzenegger weren't together on-screen in any shots of the bar scene.
Let's look at how it goes down: Ironhide takes Blurr to cover. In the same building are two corpses. As Ironhide stays next to Blurr, there are two corpses next to them, who happen to be Piston and Fasttrack. In fact, Prime's voice is heard just as Blurr looks at Piston's corpse, which is one whole panel after Ironhide was next to Blurr. And then Blurr and Prime begin discussing. I'm sorry, but saying that Prime and Ironhide didn't know each other because they didn't share a panel is bullcrap. --Detour 21:14, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
- That doesn't mean they didn't actually know each other. There are people in my department at work that I know by reputation, but wouldn't know face-to-face, and there are people I've seen around, but don't actually know anything about. Especially in what appears to be the haphazard early days of the war, it's entirely feasible two guys from two different units who've never really met could be fighting in the same area without really being aware of each other beyond "that guy over there." -hx 12:26, 15 March 2010 (EDT)
