Category talk:Weapons

Specialized weapons

Idle thoughts. The proper-noun-named special super-power weapons of G1, I think, deserve to be archived. However, the character profile sections really aren't good places for them, especially since what their weapons do can change when the characters change bodies. (I think a few in G2 even change when they're the SAME TOYS as they were in G1.)
The question becomes "what form should these entries take"? I'm fine with individualized entries for "Torque Rifle" and "Crustation Rifle" and whatnot (the former I know there's a visual example of what it does in... "Aerialbots Over America"?), but some people might object and prefer a centralized list, or want them in the character page somehow. I would like to note that the "individual page" list would be a nice way to boost article count in a not-needless way... plus account for those handful of weapons used by more than one character. (Blaster's not the only one packing an electro-scrambler, right? And doesn't "Razor's Edge" Crossblades use a bunch of specialized G1 weapons?) --M Sipher 23:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I strongly support giving each goofy-ass weapon its own individual page - as a compromise, we could have a central "List of specialized weapons" or something like that. - RolonBolon 23:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Got my support for individualized weapon pages. -- SFH 23:32, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't the Animated character pages have an "abilities" section? We should probably add ones for any character with a non-generic weapon with one sub-section for each applicable body with different powers. All the toy sections need is a listing of accessories. Named non-generic weapons probably should gave a page even if it's only used by one character. A list would simply be too large, and limiting it to character pages would make browsing weapons impossible. --FortMax 23:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm willing to let the Animated guys have that because 1) The weapons aren't really given "proper-noun" names, 2) they're all built-in stuff, and 3) they seem unlikely to change bodies and powers. They're not a pistol someone holds in their hand and someone else can pick up and use. I don't think the "sections" is a good idea outside of Animated because, well, some pages are already huge as it is. --

Sub-Categories?

I'm also beginning to think we might want to further sub-categorize the weapons... between "ranged" and "melee". Thoughts? --M Sipher 20:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Whaddaya do with the swords that shoot laser beams? They go in both sections? -- Repowers 20:51, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Sure. Why not? --M Sipher 20:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I dunno. Everything fits on one page as it is, so I'm not sure if we need more granularity than that.--Rosicrucian^Talk 20:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

"As-is" doesn't even scratch the surface of the vast plethora of bizarrely-powered weapons in Transformers. "Weapons", as a category, is going to become very big indeed. --M Sipher 20:57, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Part two

Since this is a long dead discussion, I'll start a second part for this question: would anyone mind me going through and making a Melee weapons subcat? -- SFH 17:40, 16 December 2009 (EST)

I second your motion. Khajidha 20:38, 16 December 2009 (EST)

New sub category suggestion

Perhaps we can add "Category: Guns" (pistol, riffle, etc). --TX55^TALK 22:45, 3 April 2009 (EDT)

"Continuity family" headers on Weapons pages

Alright, I just want to reach a consensus here, so we can keep consistency between pages. Do we want to keep a continuity-specific header for weapons pages? For example, Stinger does not have a continuity header on its page, whereas Null-ray does. It seems kinda... pointless to put these headers up in my opinion. And I'm voting on taking them away from the pages instead of keeping them. Weapons aren't the same as characters: would we really put say, ak-47's as only belonging to the Generation 1 continuity family if the only time they appeared in fiction was in a Generation 1 story? Whatever continuity family they appear in is already cleared up in the "fiction" section in any case. --Ascendron 00:09, 3 July 2010 (EDT)

I agree; we don't separate instances of weapons by continuity family, so the headers aren't necessary. —Interrobang 00:29, 3 July 2010 (EDT)

Wait, wait a sec here. I'm totally OK with the reasoning behind TF ability weapons getting their continuities nuked, but I'm not sure at all about nuking the continuity note for things like the Global Orbiting Defense Satellite or the Negavator or such which are more specific devices tied to a single storyline. --Jeysie 18:48, 5 July 2010 (EDT)