Talk:Unknown Constructicon shovel

I'm pretty sure this is a second Scrapper. --ItsWalky 22:09, 3 November 2009 (EST)

But Scrapper forms a whole arm, and this guy is just a hand. Aside from Ze Little One (who turns into a different vehicle than his robot mode double) none of the other Constructiclones have been differently sized compared to each-other.Carrion 23:22, 3 November 2009 (EST)

It looks to me like Scrappers form both hands and neither arm. --ItsWalky 23:27, 3 November 2009 (EST)

Would it have killed DreamWorks, Mr. AWESOME and the special effects boys at Industrial Light & Magic to have some blasted consistency between which Constructicon was which, and which ones formed Devastator. This. is. MADNESS. --G1MarvelBlaster 21:08, 4 November 2009 (EST) (Who likes making wiki-links way too much)

I think the film makes it pretty clear that there's well over a dozen Constructicons who all share 6 basic body forms (I say 6 because Overload is never seen elsewhere), and far more than 7 of them form Devastator. --FFN 21:11, 4 November 2009 (EST)

He's not another Scrapper. Scrapper has giant wheels. This unnamed dude has treads. He's not Rampage either. Different shovel. --ItsWalky 16:00, 5 November 2009 (EST)

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Um, doesn't this guy transform into a Bulldozer? IIRC, there are still some differences between a bulldozer and a shovel/loader. --TX55^TALK 02:47, 6 November 2009 (EST)

Yeah, a "shovel" would be if it had a scoop on a long articulated arm. This guy is a bulldozer. -- Repowers 19:10, 23 December 2009 (EST)

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This dude isn't a bulldozer, it is a track loader that is based on a heavily modified Caterpillar bulldozer of which the model is either a D7, or D8 and I guess the movie producers modified it to such an extent (older track loader arms, large wheel loader buckets) that it resembles a large track loader of unknown make (Probably Caterpillar) as shown when transforming with Hightower (Kobelco Crawler Crane).