Talk:Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)
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"Drug Addicts" should be inserted between now considered by many and to be the critical pinnacle :-) Chaotic nipple 19:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- I am going to have to ask you to leave. :-) --ItsWalky 19:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Are you sure about that? If I leave, the halucinatory spiders will come to get you. SPIDERS!!!! Chaotic nipple 03:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Comic continuation
This became so long so quickly that I'm hesitant to just dump it, but... it shouldn't be here. We have individual story pages (or will) for the comics stories, and that is where their respective summaries should go. This page concerns only the cartoon. The Beast Wars franchise page provides links to other media of Beast Wars.
Also, none of the summarizing is written in the proper voice. --Sntint 12:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Additionally, I strongly contest the claims made by ShadowHawk that Beast Machines is ignored by most fans, or that the IDW series is considered the "real" followup by most fans, so I removed the part about BM also. --Steve-o 15:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- Indeed. I intended to remove that but failed to. Thank you. --Sntint 15:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Ok I admit you guys have valid points, but honestly though Beast Machines is ignored, especially with Beast Wars: Ascending series...nothing of the Beast Machinese Saga was mentioned or continued through that series and honestly i've examined Beast Machines and it poorly reflects Beast Wars. Rhinox turning evil!? Megatron just happen to get lost in the warp portal and managed to get through ahead of time than the Maximals and already enslaved call of Cybertron to Vechicons!? The whole thing sounds crappy, but you guys are right so when are you guys able to start an article about the Beast Wars comic then? Here's the origninal wiki page Beast Wars: The Gathering -ShadowHawk
- Untrue, the moon from Beast Wars has appeared elsewhere! ^_^
- Seriously though, BM -> Universe -> Fun Pub. Characters originating with Beast Machines are still in circulation. (Well, okay, I admit Sentinel Maximus isn't in circulation now, but he was up until the current arc, which continues directly from a story where he was running around.) -Derik 03:04, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- Shadowhawk, we don't need to "start" an article about it... we already have pages about The Gathering, both as a series, and individual articles for each issue. --Steve-o 04:26, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- Steve took my main point, but I also want to re-iterate that Beast Machines being "ignored" needs to be substantiated if it's going to be included here. It sounds like a statement of canonical fact, which to my knowledge is not true. If you're just stating your opinion about BM... this really isn't the place for it. --Sntint 04:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- well pointed out, but whatever word you choose "ignore", "void", "revamp"..this whole matter is argumentative on that level because the fans are divided about what's canonical...in reality whoever owns the license rights tends to choose the direction of the series and have creative rights to change what has already happened, just look at Highlander 2...the hardcore fans hated it and it was redone several times because it was considered by majority that bad and I admit that I'm biased against Beast Machines cause i really think the story was poorly written however i never once thought about adding my personal feelings or opinions into this...IDW created a story line parallel to Beast Wars about time contamination and so you might say Beast Machines did happen, but because of Razor Beast's and Magmatron's interference with the time line is yet again further changed so it might be one of those time paradox's where it did happen, but it's been erased. Either way I understand your positions and honestly guys i tried looking for that "The Gathering" page but nothing surfaced on this site other than wikipedia's version online so i thought no one added it in. You guys made a fair call so i'm not going to challenge it, but I did write it based on the powers that control the direction of the Beast Wars universe currently and not in the past. I don't know about you guys, but those that control the license has a say what's canonical or not and right now the miniseries is by all technicality canonical. I apologize if i angered anyone, but seriously Beast Machines was like the Van Damne Street Fighter movie to me. There were some serious canonical flaws in there and that's why i'm "up in arms" with it and I don't mean to offend.-ShadowHawk
- Whoah, whoah, hold on, there. Nobody's offended; calm down. The thing is, while:
- 1) Beast Machines garnered a poor initial reaction, and
- 2) IDW's comics may propose an alternate set of sequel-events for BW,
- We cannot substantially say that 2) happened because of 1). I haven't READ the BW comics yet, and neither our article nor Wikipedia's seems to detail exactly what about it even contradicts BM.
- If I've missed a point, then I apologize. Your sentence structure is a little hard to read. --Sntint 14:46, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
