Talk:Hot Rod (G1)

How did Hot Rodimus' reissue's bio deal with the whole Target Master thing? X-BoB58 22:05, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Was Black Rodimus called... Black Rodimus? (I assumed he'd be 'Black Hot Rodimus')

For that matter, doy ou knwo the proper name of Black Big Convoy? I'm loathe to trust the error-riddled tfu.info for such fine distinctions. -Derik 08:59, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

What's the reasoning behind this "Rodimus Prime is gay" comment? As it is, it seems unappropriate. --Crockalley 13:49, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

It's part of who the character is, so it seemed worth mentioning. Chip 14:31, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, he is a "flaming" Winnebago, but I think this should be taken with a slight grain of salt. Apparently this exchange occurred at Botcon 2002:

<Question> Mr. McConnohie, you played Tracks.

<Mike> No,he's not gay.

<Gautier (jumping in)> But Rodimus is!

Quoted from Finback's report on a.t.t. --Autobus Prime 14:50, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I suspected something like that. Thanks for clearing it up. --Crockalley 15:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Main image

Since it bugged me, I removed the text from the main image. It took me quite a long time, so I will be annoyed if anybody decides to change the pic soon afterwards. --FFN 17:53, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that! It is good work. --ItsWalky 18:28, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, now I'm just plain consumed with the desire to change it. :) - Chris McFeely 19:10, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

And don't anybody forget, *I* originally scanned and uploaded the image! *I* deserve at least 50% of all credit or at least double prize money. --DrSpengler 19:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks guys. I used to do this sort of editing when I was a texture/user interface "artist" (and I use the term very loosely) on Star Trek game mods. Oh, and I hope nobody thought I implied that nobody can change the picture ever, I would just like it to hang around for awhile. --FFN 09:36, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Pictures!

Whoooo doggy, do the fiction sections needs some image scans FIERCE. --M Sipher 01:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I said to myself, I said, self, "Take a half-hour and do his Marvel section, the poor boy needs it." Ninety minutes later... eesh... - Chris McFeely 01:09, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Optimal Rodimus

Where's this from, and is there anything to back it up? I've never heard of such a thing.--MCRG 13:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

trailer

i remember reading somwher that rodimus primes trailer folds out from his legs, it doesnt, if you watch grimlocks new brain you will see his trailer repeated ly roll on and off when energy waves affected his circuits and he repeatedly transformed from vechile mode and back again86.112.249.240 18:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it happens there, and in "Face of the Nijika," too. But watch him transform in the movie, or, off the top of my head, "Only Human," "Call of the Primitives," or the "The Ultimate Weapon," to see the trailer folding out of his body. In fact, in the latter two examples, you can see that the transformation is actually intricately rendered enough that it features the wheels folding back inside his legs as panels close over them. - Chris McFeely 19:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Time to break it up

I got the "32kb" warning when fixing a typo on Hot Rod's page. The actual stated size is 45kb. I suggest it's time to split up the article? The toys section is long, but I don't know that it's long enough to be enough. I'll mess around with it myself later, but I wouldn't mind someone with more experience at this look at it. -Sntint

If we're going to break off G1 Megatron's toy section to its own page, we should do the same for Hot Rod now. If the toy section is too short as-is, I can add a bunch of Japanese stuff to it. --Rotty 09:45, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

There's probably enough Japanese Rodimus merchandise out there to fill the page quite a damn bit. Actually, we need someone who really knows that shit on here. --M Sipher 09:57, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Duke Fire?

You know, aside from the "cab for chest" and the ladder hanging off the back, I really see no ressemblance between Duke Fire [1] and that unused Fire Truck Rodimus...

Similar

Did you ever notice that if you put Hot Rod and Breakdown next to each other in car form that you almost couldn't tell them apart?

If you're color-blind, then, yeah.--Autobotx1010 17:54, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Alternate futures

This seemed as good a place as any to ask: is there a better way of dealing with the "Movie Future" stories for Marvel Comics? Currently, any reference to those stories tends to be squeezed in after Generation 1 continuity, but that really offsets the flow of the article, especially for Hot Rod. At one point, his G1 article shifts into italics for an excessive period of time, then the G2 section basically picks up saying, "Ignoring all that, where we last left Hot Rod on Klo 11 paragraphs ago..." What about moving "Movie Future" stories into their own heading, and putting it linearly in the timeline, so just before the Classics heading, if any? Is there a good name for a separate heading? "Movie Future" seems 4th wall-y, and I'm not sure if Earth-120185 covers the alternate alternate timelines from AoE and RoD.

Also, as a sidenote, is the Marvel Comics adaptation of the TFTM considered the canon version of the Unicron events in the UK Movie Future, or does the UK Movie Future just involve something "like" the movie? --Xaaron 19:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Putting the Movie Future stuff out of G1 and moved to after G2 is a bad idea. Not only would that suggest that the Movie Future stuff ISN'T from the G1 book despite being published there, it also suggests that those events happen after the events of G2, which they don't. G2 doesn't lead to the movie. --ItsWalky 19:40, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Granted. But it could still use a subheading, right? Just something that more obviously says, "Stop reading here". --Xaaron 20:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Picture needing deletion

Umm, there's a picture on this this page that has porn in it or has somthing that resembles porn and I think thats inapropret.--Autobot Soundwave 19:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

...are you going to tell us which?--Rosicrucian^Talk 20:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Sadly no. My computor blocks the page due to the picture.--Autobot Soundwave 20:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Then I'm afraid we can't help you.--Rosicrucian^Talk 20:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Is it a picktue in the Kiss Players section? It may be blocked because of the word "naked" in the "title" property. --FortMax 20:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Most likey try changing the "title".--Autobot Soundwave 20:36, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

The pic in question is an actual scan from a real, canonical Japanese Transformers comic. Ergo, we're not likely to delete it. We recommend that you relax the filtering software on your computer. If you can't, well, keeping you away from Kiss Players is probably a good thing. (It's annoyingly creepy.) JW 20:47, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

So...

No mention of the fact that he killed Optimus Prime, stole both the Matrix of Leadership, and Leadership itself from Ultra Magnus, or his attempt to kill himself?--86.87.28.191 17:56, 8 February 2010 (EST)

That's .... an interesting take on things. While I don't particularly care for Rodimus, your comments are stretching the truth (at the very least). Megatron killed Optimus. Hot Rod's interference gave Megatron the opening, but Hot Rod was legitimately trying to help. Galvatron stole the Matrix. Hot Rod recovered it. The Matrix then CHOSE him as the new leader, a development which was foreshadowed earlier in the movie. Finally, he didn't attempt to kill himself he initiated a vision quest. Not really any stranger than the use of hallucinogens by many religions. Khajidha 18:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Rumor or coincidence?

Just saw this. It appear someone place the words to make "新たなマスターピース その名はロディマス" (New Masterpiece, Rodimus is its name). --TX55^TALK 07:19, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

"Marvel UK future timelines" vs "Earthforce"

So I'm somewhat at a loss as how to deal with some of the UK materials. Clearly some parts of "Aspects of Evil" aren't future timelines... in fact, some of them are very strictly alternate events that contradict the main continuity, such as the alternate Decepticon Civil War 2. But these stories are intimately interwoven with stuff that would belong in the "Marvel UK future" stuff. This stuff needs to be split out appropriately, but how? --ItsWalky 00:22, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, I went through the same issue when I was filling out those sections. From what I could tell, the earliest events connected to the UK Future were AoE Megatron and Scorponok, set in 1990 and 1991 respectively. Those were flashbacks remembered by 2356 Rodimus, who is the same Rodimus who returned from the Time Wars, according to AoE Galvatron, making them contiguous with all prior TFUK Future stories. Since those events don't coincide with what happened in the Marvel US/UK Present in 1990-91, the "Marvel UK Future Timeline" must be an alternate future that split off from the comic's present sometime prior to 1990 (I'd say Time Wars in 1989 is a pretty good spot to point to for the split).

So I'd say all the AoE stuff IS in continuity with the "Marvel UK Future Timeline"; they're the earliest shown events in the timeline after it became incompatible with the main comic's present. It's still the "TFUK" future...it's just that the divergence in the timeline already happened, so they aren't technically "The Future" when compared to the later stories from the main comic timeline. --Xaaron 12:50, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

Featured!

With just a small amount of work, we can make this the featured article for next month. Just a few small sections need filling. --ItsWalky 11:26, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

I've been meaning to fill out the Generation 2 section a little more. Might get around to that this weekend. Also, before it gets featured, I'd say it definitely needs a cutback on the bad sex jokes. They're not offensive, they're just.... really, really bad. --Detour 13:06, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

Now that that's done... I'd say the section could do with at least one more picture. Any preferences? --Detour 15:59, 27 August 2010 (EDT)

The ones we already had on the wiki happened to be ones I woulda chosen anyway. --ItsWalky 16:42, 27 August 2010 (EDT)

having immediately succeeded Optimus Prime as commander

That's not really true you know, Ultra Magnus was commander between the two Primes (at least in those continuities I'm familiar with). Just as Bill Clinton did not "immediately succeed" Ronald Reagan as US president, so Rodimus did not immediately succeed Optimus as Autobot commander. Unfortunately I'm not sure how to rephrase it to keep the idea on the page without being factually incorrect. Perhaps saying that "Rodimus suffers from comparing himself to Optimus". --Khajidha 16:47, 16 September 2010 (EDT)

Split

Is it appropriate to ask for the cartoon continuity stuff to be split off now, as the page is ginormous? --Khajidha 13:46, 11 October 2010 (EDT)

This thread seems to have been forgotten.

We need to split off the cartoon stuff. This is no. 5 on the Special:Longpages list. (The only reason it isn't higher-up is because of the MSTF transcripts.) ---Blackout- 14:58, 20 November 2010 (EST)

Trying to draw attention to this topic. --Khajidha 08:18, 3 March 2011 (EST)

Go ahead and do it. I don't think you need special permission to split off large pages, so long as you're adept at it. --ItsWalky 08:20, 3 March 2011 (EST)

That's the problem, I'm not sure how adept I'd be. Thought I'd mention it in case others hadn't noticed. --Khajidha 08:27, 3 March 2011 (EST)

Just follow Optimus Prime (G1) as a template. The cartoon section and Marvel sections both keep one representative image, with a quick summary of the most important events respect to each version of the character. I do not, however, know how to build one of those "Suite" bars at the top, though I'm not adverse to that being absent until someone who knows how to make one of those things comes along. --ItsWalky 12:02, 3 March 2011 (EST)

Does the split page carry all the categories of the parent page or only those directly relevant to it? I think it is the second, but I wanted to be sure. Categories and the main page summary are the areas where I expect to have the most difficulty. --Khajidha 13:40, 3 March 2011 (EST)

What I'd like to know, should there be a Rodimus Prime redirect? The toy section currently has no redirect, but I don't know if that is deliberate. P.S., whoever's gonna split the article and write the cartoon intro, I favor keeping the image of Rodimus with an explosion behind him as intro image. Geewunling 13:49, 3 March 2011 (EST)

In regards to building the suite bar, you can use Optimus Prime (G1) as a template for that too: Optimus Prime (G1)/suite --Tigerpaw28 14:03, 3 March 2011 (EST)

Only categories relevant to that version of the character. The main page should have all of the categories (except toy ones). —Interrobang 14:43, 3 March 2011 (EST)

That's what I thought. I could swear that I've seen split articles where the main article still has toy-only categories, but those were probably oversights. --Khajidha 14:45, 3 March 2011 (EST)

Who was after Rodimus?

I'm pretty sure that Rodimus assigned leadership to someone else after season 4 didn't he? wasn't it Cereboros? I'm pretty sure transformers continued under headmasters and some other Japanese titles for some time where other transformers (I think star sabre?) were appointed leader of the autobots. Even if they weren't a prime. I think it would be worth mentioning his successor.--Drowzor 09:33, 10 February 2011 (EST)

In America, his successor was Optimus Prime. The Japanese cartoons disagree. They are no longer the same continuity at that point. --ItsWalky 09:39, 10 February 2011 (EST)

First, Season 4 did not take place in Japanese continuity. Second, Season 3 ended with The Return of Optimus Prime with Optimus resuming command. Third, in Japanese continuity Rodimus resumed command from Optimus before yielding it to Fortress. All of this is already in the article, so I'm not sure what you are asking for. --Khajidha 09:46, 10 February 2011 (EST)

Rodimus Vs. Cyclonus

Considering its place in the timeline, would the summary for this comic go up further into the animated cartoon summary? For that matter, would it have to be inserted into the summary for Transformers the Movie?

Nope, where it is is fine. It's not actually IN the cartoon so we don't put it in (unlike The Arrival where the comics were published concurrently with the cartoon, and were written by the show's story editor and promised to be in-canon with the show), just like how Kiss Players isn't inserted in even though it takes place between the movie and season 3, ditto The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers, etc. --Detour 22:03, 4 March 2011 (EST)

Maximal

Since in the Universe comics he underwent the Great Upgrade, shouldn't he be a Maximal? (184.56.18.164 01:06, 11 August 2011 (EDT))

Character Model notes

The Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime character model comparisons show up virtually identically in both the main page and the /G1 cartoon continuity subpage. Shouldn't they be on one page or the other, not both? --Xaaron 09:24, 19 September 2013 (EDT)

Renaming (AGAIN)

Since another Hot Rod is announced for The Last Knight, we're gonna name this page as Hot Rod (G1) again someday. FigureGunplaFan (talk) 01:07, 4 August 2016 (EDT)

Not necessarily. TLK Hot Rod may fit in on the Rodimus (DOTM) page. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 01:25, 4 August 2016 (EDT)

No way we aren't having an actual movie character at his most prominent name. Saix (talk) 01:41, 4 August 2016 (EDT)

Rodimus Cron

I'm not trying to start an argument, but I think U-Tube Conroy has a point about Rodimus Cron. We've put "sometimes known as" names in ridiculous circumstances, like Speedstream/Slipstream and Nexus Prime/Nexus Maximus.--Hyperious (talk) 20:49, 9 January 2018 (EST)

The name is only used in one continuity, that being the Prime Wars Trilogy cartoons. Just bold it in that section and call it a day. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 20:53, 9 January 2018 (EST)

Aye aye--Hyperious (talk) 20:55, 9 January 2018 (EST)