Talk:JaAm

I think that the Wiki can and should include some fandom-specific information that isn't directly related to Transformers. For example, we should eventually have an article for each BotCon/OTFCC convention. We should have an entry for FIRRIB. I think Jam falls under the same umbrella. Obviously there should be some limit to how obscure/irrelevant a meme we include, but Jam, for instance, has highly-visible exposure on Ben Yee's site, so I think it is worth including. --Steve-o 16:55, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Your arugment is sound, but I would definitely have to differ. I agree that we should have entries for each BotCon/OTFCC, because the convention is officially supported by Hasbro (even though this was admittedly not always the case. I would argue that the fact that these conventions gained official status grants legitimacy to the pre-official conventions to at least the degree where I'm comfortable with them being on this Wiki, though). I don't think that FIRRIB or the JaAm comics, as strictly fan-based endeavors, should be here, though. At the very least, if we do include them, we need to set up guidelines detailed the criteria under which non-official entries should be permitted.--G.B. Blackrock 18:42, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I vote we move to a properly-spelled page, such as JaAm. --ItsWalky 17:31, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I think JAam is a perfectly cromulent subject for this Wiki. Like Hot Shot, my shoulders often hurt, and I wonder Why- WHY was I created to feel pain? You wouldnt' want it as a section in Hot Shot's main page, but a link out is good. -Derik 07:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I think this JaAm article should stay. Personal webpages can come and go, and there was a considerable length of time during which the JaAm comic wasn't available, but all these references to JaAm were, causing me to say, 'WhAt jAam?'. All those references are still out there, buried in Usenet archives, forum discussions, and things like the BWTF rating system. One thing this encyclopedia can do is help to understand the meanings of weird things like this without having to say 'My life is pain'. At least it would give everybody somewhere stable to direct people to when they wanted to know what was going on. - Autobus Prime

The Secret JaAm Origin

I'm sure someone might find this interesting. When I made the whole jAaM comic it came to me naturally, but there was absolutely an inspiration that was buried deep in my brain that I only realised later. When I was really little I got the 'Playhour' comic and there was a strip in there called 'Bunny Cuddles' about a rabbit who was obsessed with jam. All of his adventures were jam-based and revolved around him getting into trouble because he did things like eat all the jam, or use jam as wallpaper paste. He had a little mole friend who kept trying to keep him out of trouble. There's some scans of some really old strips here, but sadly very low res http://www.lookandlearn.com/history-images/search.php?search=bunny+cuddles&x=0&y=0&cat=30~Nursery_papers Blueshift (talk) 16:01, 2 June 2015 (EDT)

New Site Link

Hi, Blueshift/Yartek here. My old site is dead/got taken over by Russians selling cigarette lighters hacking the posts, I have moved everything from Redshirt to a blogger platform ( http://www.marshmallowsupernova.com/2008/10/armada-real-story_26.html ) and updated the external link accordingly, so don't think someone else is copying and trying to hijack it!Blueshift (talk) 09:04, 23 May 2015 (EDT)

mY liFE iS PaIn

WhY mY ShOuLdErS hUrT? --sLAnDeR 18:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

i eAt yOuR bAbIEs --aNDruSi 20:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I have articulation! --stupid little helecopter guy 15:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Oi! Get away from my pie filling! I like pie!--Dynamus Prime 15:52, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I HaVe FEET Yay!--Darthluke123 2:42 11 June 2009

YuM yUm JaM c0Pt0R --sPiN-0uT 10:06, 5 April 2012 (EDT)

Redshirt

Is anyone else having trouble getting Redshirt.co to come up? -- SFH 19:26, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

404'd on me too. Sindersaur 06:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Yep, 404'd for me too. Can it be hosted anywhere else? Bride of lister 12:14, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

this is wierd

Why was he dancing?!?!? Amanda Pudding 16:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Actual substance

Okay, I'm going to propose something here. As a result of Hot Shot's bio, we now have a first in-fiction reference to JaAm (complete with stutter-case). Seeing as we do treat packaging bios as fiction and thus a form of canon, we probably should reorganize this article as if it were an actual substance and give this article a proper (albeit brief) fiction section.--Rosicrucian^Talk 01:55, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

Makes sense to me. I feel like most of "What is Jam" could be shoved into one of the "Origins" sections we sometimes use before fiuction sections, like on Prowl II.

...which I see that someone has moved to "origins and complications" below the fiction section, even though we put it before the section because it was a necessary primer to make sense of the fiction section. *sigh* -Derik 02:40, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

Link plz?

"Ben Yee commissioned Hot Shot fan David Willis to create a series of images based on the mini-comic" As a Hotshot fan, I must see this.--Chipmonk328

All over Ben Yee's site. Every single review features a Hot Shot image reflecting the rating. --Detour 00:00, 6 February 2010 (EST)

[1] [2] [3] Check the bottom of these pages. I'm not sure if Ben ever used the graphic for the lowest rating. --ItsWalky 00:02, 6 February 2010 (EST)

Yes, he has. (ironically his review's pictures convinced me to get that specific version) --Detour 00:11, 6 February 2010 (EST)

I clicked through a number of generally-considered-terrible toys like Armada Side Swipe trying to find something bad enough to warrant the worst rating. Guess I forgot about the Walmart Universe slight-redecoes. --ItsWalky 00:20, 6 February 2010 (EST)

I think Ben reserves that lowest rating solely for redecoes, because that's all I've ever seen them on. Sideswipe may have been spared, but his redecoes have not. --Detour 00:24, 6 February 2010 (EST)

The lowest rating isn't always reserved for redecoes; Airachnid at least got the lowest rating and that was for a modern, original figure. Yeesh, that thing was bad. Destron (talk) 09:01, 15 July 2014 (EDT)

Title

Would anyone object if I changed the title to render in red Comic Sans? (I know some people have a deep hatred of that font...) --abates 00:25, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

You can do that? Can you make it render in red Comic Sans? Jalaguy 07:05, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, it's just a line that goes in common.css:

.page-JaAm h1 { color: #FF0000; font-family: Comic Sans MS, sans-serif }

I've had it in my monacobook.css file for a while. --abates 07:46, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

Yes. - SanityOrMadness 10:37, 4 May 2013 (EDT)

As in "Yes, I object" or "Yes, this is a good idea"? --abates 00:31, 8 May 2013 (EDT)

The external link to the comic is dead

Is there another site that has the comic pics hosted? Cuz I'm sure there are new fans who need to bear witness to the gloriousness of JaAm. --Sabrblade 12:50, 4 September 2013 (EDT)

A quick Googling brings up this, although I'm not entirely sure if this counts as "external". --Inkblot 13:53, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

Are we going to address how this comic is apparently really insulting to the people it makes fun of?

We already had this discussion once or twice over at the Allspark, but apparently nothing ever came of it. And then last night, someone in the TFWiki Discord channel complained about Hasbro still making references to this "horrible" comic that they felt personally insulted by.

While I'm in the privileged position where I'm not one of the people the comic uses as the butt for a joke, I can definitely see where the criticism is coming from. Considering how woke the people running this wiki typically tend to be, I'm very surprised that nobody has even brought up the situation here yet.

This page is in severe need of a complete overhaul that puts everything in proper context and explains how something that was a silly in-joke for twentysomethings is considered and ill-suited joke at the expense of mentally handicapped people. Especially since Hasbro have taken the thing this comic popularized and are using referencing it for actual canon material.--Nevermore (talk) 03:57, 3 August 2020 (EDT)

I added in a bit, but it's a stopgap at best. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 12:39, 3 August 2020 (EDT)

Here is my first draft.--Nevermore (talk) 20:10, 3 August 2020 (EDT)

While we're at it, I've never found the "Skywarp pushes people down the stairs" joke particularly humorous as it brings up images of domestic violence/spousal abuse. Avalanche (talk) 12:38, 6 August 2020 (EDT)