Talk:Shockwave (Animated)

Locked

So, how long is the lock out going to last? -- SFH 17:46, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd guess, until Autoboot Camp airs in the States. --Professor Icepick 17:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Seems to be the trend. I can agree with it.--Rosicrucian^Talk 18:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Is this page still locked, or what? I can't edit it and I was hoping to note how much Shockwave, uh, doesn't look like Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. At all. KingAndy 09:30, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

Oh, apparently somebody thinks he does look like a reindeer. Go figure. KingAndy 10:47, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

I have the Picture

Shockwave as he appears in Transformers Animated

Please unlock the Shockwave article. Mr. Serious 15:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Uh, that's not from Autoboot Camp is it?User:GWolfv2 16.53 June 5th 2008

It seems to be, I recognise that pose. We could use it until a whole body image or some toy images are released, although one of him transforming from Longarm Prime to Shockwave would be good too (Shotgun on the Autbot counterpart gag). Metal Gear NOIZE 15:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Couldn't we put the picture lower on the article and put the "Does Prime Die?" spoiler warning at the top. That way people who haven't seen Autoboot Camp don't get the spoiler like some people who have seen it. Just an idea.--AWT88 16:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

The picture should go in the same place as always, because there's nothing remotely spoilery about it. Shockwave is on a viewscreen. Could mean anything. --Thylacine 2000 16:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, since this is about to be deleted, we don't have to do anything. -- SFH 17:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Now I changed the name of the image. Mr. Serious 19:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't work that way. You have to reupload the image to change the name. Try something like Animated Shockwave or TFA Autoboot Camp Shockwave. Something that defines the what continuity the subject is in. -- SFH 19:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I now named it TFA Shockwave. Mr. Serious 16:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but this episode is gonna air in the US this week ain't it? Or is it S.U.V. that's gonna air this week? I don't know for sure because I don't get Cartoon Network and have been watching them on YouTube a week at a time.--AWT88 03:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Autoboot Camp is this week's Moose episode. The US gets SUV this week. --FortMax 03:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, guess I was wrong. So I'm a few weeks ahead of the rest of the nation. But I will not go past Black Friday (which I'll probably end up watching Sunday after work).--AWT88 03:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Shockwave? Where are you?

I try to avoid Youtube and the sort so i haven't seen the episode, but I can't help but look up characters. This being said, why does the "little red autobot" have a picture and Shockwave doesn't?

EDIT: Sorry for not signing, and I just realized that it's locked... Ragingtsunami726 19:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Logic suggests merger

Now that its shown in Canaidia, can we go ahead and merge this with Longarm's article?User:GWolfv2 22.46 June 7th

I believe we said, at least in one place, that we were going to try to keep the character pages spoiler free (or at least marked as spoilers int he fiction section) until the episode airs in the US in another week. Since a redirect is inherently a spoiler (anyone clicking on it to read the general bio of Shockwave or Longarm-- but stopping before the section marked as spoilers, would be spoiled just by the act of clicking.)

The decision on the date may have changed- there was a lot of back and forth on it- but 'when it airs int he US' was what I remember last. -Derik 22:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

That being said, can we at least unlock the page to allow registered users to work on it? We have an image now, and the guy who uploaded it deserves a chance to place it on with a caption of his choice. -- SFH 23:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

If I knew when it happened, I would suggest merging them when the Autobots find out that he's playing both sides. But with Animated having a Starscream whose betrayal is secretive and covert, Shockwave's role as a backstabbing spy may actually go undetected, with no dramatic reveal to his Autobot patsies just to go "Mwa Ha Ha, I am evil the whole time!".--Carrion 01:45, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

God knows I object to TFRocks' approach of making the reveal in the first paragraph of the fiction section.--Rosicrucian^Talk 19:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm also holding off on posting the double agents category, as nobody wants to get spoiled just by browsing a category.--Rosicrucian^Talk 20:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Toy?

Is there any news on a toy for Shockwave yet, and if so, does it (commented out to avoid spoilers, I guess)KrytenKoro 22:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Shockwave release

Here's hoping they release a a triplchanger for him, one mode tank, one mode crane and two robot settings - Longarm Scuba Mask and Shockwave Cyclops... Well, I hope that's how it comes out! - User:Shockwave Prime

New stuff coming

I realised he was not the only autobot and decepticon shape shifter and he is also a double Agent, How come it wasn't in the article. 82.17.140.55 19:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

There are lots of words above. They are for your reading. --ItsWalky 19:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Spoiler pic

Just figured I'd link this here, so it can be posted whenever we're ready to do so. --Professor Icepick 19:12, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Transwarped

I had just finished writing a whole bunch of stuff for Shockwave in his Transwarped appearance, only to find someone had already wrote something in :( Phooey.

Should I still pop it in, or does someone want to read it or...? --Tribor

Capitalization?

Derrick and the "TransWarped" credits capitalize the "A" in "Longarm". Is there anything that goes against this? —Interrobang 01:48, 22 March 2009 (EDT)

Burton Interview?

According to the Notes section, Burton says in a recent interview that he at least partly influenced Shockwave getting an expanded role this season. However, the link to the interview returns a "The requested topic does not exist" error from Seibertron's forums. I did a search there for "Burton" and "interview" and found one whole thread, and that's about an interview Burton did at StarWars.com. Nothing in the thread or that interview mentions Burton getting Shockwave's role expanded. (Of course, the Seibertron forum layout looks slightly bunged up, at least on this computer, so it could be a transient glitch on that end.)--Apcog 16:56, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

Well, it's either a glitch, or it's been taken down. A quick google for "Seibertron" and "Corey Burton" brings up a few news posts from other sites linking to the interview from when it was up. - Chris McFeely 17:08, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

Yea the server had a big crash due to a big flooding last Autumn which caused many threads to be lost and even member profiles, and seibertron's backups weren't complete so I fear it is lost forever.Dead Metal 15:26, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

Yep. IIRC, the interview was actually posted in the forum itself, so it probably got wiped in the crash. It might be worth e-mailing Ryan to ask if he or the person who did the interview saved an extra copy of it anywhere. --Jeysie 17:00, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

I think it was Stormrider who made it and if it was him it will take a while to recover it as he's gone for a long time. Dead Metal not signed in

Yea it was Stormrider who did it, I'll email him wanted to do that anyway.Dead Metal 11:43, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

Unprotect?

Could we unprotect this article? I have some edits to make regarding the toy. JW 09:32, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

Registered users like yourself should be able to edit. The page is only guarded against anonymous edits. --ItsWalky 10:48, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

Semi-protection applies to IPs and new accounts. —Interrobang 11:15, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

After the crash, the method I used to recreate my account seems to have left me as "new" in the eyes of Teletraan-1 . . . JW 15:18, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

If you can't edit the article, post your edited version here (on the talk page) and someone will port it over. - SanityOrMadness 13:36, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

Enh... it's been protected long enough, and all the big reveals have been made.--Rosicrucian^Talk 15:21, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

Errors!

I've noticed that his toy is almost never tansformed correctly, even on the box, longarm's head is half way folded, the head his difficult to transform making me have to use the tab on the back of his face, and just look at the pic on target.com!, or the box. should this be on trivia

Hey guys...

he does change his energy sig according to the toy's bio. You might want to change the part about it only being a possibility, or the autobots just being arrogant.

Toy Bio

Do we need a section for this? It doesn't reveal anything new. Usually we only include toy bio sections when they show us something the previous fiction doesn't.--Rosicrucian^Talk 12:10, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Well, there is the information about the Elite Guard, and the ability to change energy signatures. I think that sheds light on the character. If that isn't enough, I don't mind if it is deleted. - Starfield 12:15, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Those are things we could likely just integrate into the intro paragraph.--Rosicrucian^Talk 12:17, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Animated Shockwave Elite Guard faction symbol

"Graduating near the top of the class from the AUTOBOT Academy, he moved through the ranks of the Elite Guard, eventually becoming head of the Intelligence Division." - Shockwave's bio.
The majority of fans aren't aware of Derek Wyatt's off-air remarks but may have read Shockwave's character bio. As far as they know, Shockwave moved up through the ranks of the Elite Guard. It is canon, at the very least in the micro-continuity that is Shockwave's character bio but arguably in the cartoon as well, since nothing in the cartoon itself really contradicts it. See also: author intent. Shockwave's Elite Guard faction symbol has been removed a couple of times. I think it should be there. - Starfield 12:11, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

The fact that "LongArm Prime" has a standard Autobot insignia rather than the winged Elite Guard symbol contradicts it. - SanityOrMadness 20:43, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

That just means he isn't in the Elite Guard right now. It doesn't mean he didn't move up through their ranks. Head of the Intelligence Division is apparently not an Elite Guard position. - Starfield 21:50, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Which is odd, because Blurr is both an intelligence agent, and in the Elite Guard . . . but as odd things in Transformers go, that barely rates. My opinion? The toy bio says he was once in the Elite Guard. The toy bio is canon. He should get the symbol, and a note saying he's not in the Guard now. JW 22:09, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Capital A

I know that's how they did it in the credits of "TransWarped", and I don't have a DVD handy, being at work, so I can't check how "Autoboot Camp" did it, but the credits for "Where Is Thy Sting?" don't capitalize the A. - Chris McFeely 07:31, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

(aaaaand I see the topic was raised a while back and I never spoke up about it. D'oh.) - Chris McFeely 07:32, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

"Autoboot Camp" didn't capitalise the A either. Honestly, I'd be inclined to go with "Longarm" myself; it's the predominant parsing both in Transformers Animated fiction and Transformers fiction in general, to the extent that I'd be prepared to write off the "TransWarped" spelling as a typo. After all, if we were taking that episode's credits as gospel, shouldn't we also be moving our Hot Shot and Rodimus Prime pages to "Hotshot" and "Rodimus"? - Muddtallica 07:50, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

As I said, Wyatt capitalized the "A", in that Twitter entry about LongArm replacing Highbrow. —Interrobang 12:36, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

And Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio consistently spelled Blackarachnia's name as Black Arachnia. That means nothing. --ItsWalky 12:49, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

There are equally official sources for "Longarm," so I sure hope we can go back to that. You know, LONGARM is even more canonical, being on the toy package ;) - Starfield 12:55, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Are we just being deliberately retarded on this? Autoboot Camp, which came out first, parses his name 'Longarm'. http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/dlink/index.html?episodeID=8a25c3921fc6a295011fc9a121850188 This matches up with the model sheets, scripts, and just about everything else. Clearly TransWarped is the aberration here. --Jimsorenson 14:07, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

He was credited as "ShockWave" in This Is Why I Hate Machines. He was credited as "Shockwave" in earlier episodes, so I'm not suggesting a change or anything. Just pointing out an oddity. - Starfield 15:09, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

Actually, he seems to know exactly who he is.

He's been in deep cover on Cybertron for so long that even he probably doesn't know who he really is

Is this from a bio somewhere? Because there's absolutely nothing in the cartoon that supports the notion. -- Repowers 08:40, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

The Arrival

To whoever added this part: you can't use "Longarm had the Elite Guard symbol in The Arrival" to justify him as being part of the Elite Guard, because his chest symbol was switched with Sentinel Prime's in that scene. The bio part stands, though. --Monzo 19:16, 9 May 2009 (EDT)

In the Trade Paperback, unless I'm looking at it wrong, everyone in that scene has the wings.KrytenKoro 21:37, 9 May 2009 (EDT)

Chugway

Frankly, I find this pretty amusing, but mainly because I was in time to see KrytenKoro's edit summary explaining where the name originated. Do we want to include an explanation for people who come here months or even weeks from now, or would that be killing the joke?--Apcog 10:47, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Elite Guard Status

"Derrick J. Wyatt has informed this wiki that Longarm is not a member of that group in the cartoon. Shockwave's status as a nonmember of the Elite Guard is supported by Longarm's lack of the Elite Guard's winged Autobot symbol in the cartoon. However, he is drawn with an Elite Guard symbol in The Arrival #1." Can we please reach an agreement over whether or not Longarm is a member of the Elite Guard, and if so, whether the article should have the Elite Guard symbol at the top or not? Kit 08:34, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

Derrick Wyatt's remarks are helpful, but do not trump actual fiction. At the very least, Shockwave was a member of the Elite Guard at one time. It appears that during the events of the cartoon, he was once, but no longer a member. - Starfield 17:09, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

Ah, well that's all right then. Thank you for sorting it out. :) Kit 05:46, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

This is actually false reasoning, Kit; in that issue, Sentinel Prime's Elite Guard symbol was consistently switched with Longarm's normal Autobot symbol. We can tell the symbols were an error because Sentinel Prime is referred to within the text of the story as the second-in-command of the Elite Guard (meaning he should have the symbol)... while Longarm Prime is, in comparison, the Autobot Intelligence Division Chief, which is not a part of the Elite Guard; Longarm Prime is never otherwise shown having the symbol, and his immediate predecessor as the head of the division, Highbrow, does not sport the Elite Guard symbol either.

However - while Longarm Prime may never have been a member of the Elite Guard in the cartoon continuity, his toy bio does describe him as being one. And as everything officially published is canon, that simply places his Elite Guard membership in an Animated toy bio micro-continuity... which is a valid reason for the page to retain the symbol. We'll just have to expand the note at the end. --Monzo 06:32, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

Longarm's EG status is really only "ambiguous" if you validate authorial intent, and currently that is how this article has been shaped. Otherwise, his flashback dialogue says he wants to be EG and his package says he's EG. I really think that dramatically outranks Derrick's after-the-fact Twitter posts. We have official licensed evidence he is EG, and nothing official licensed that says he's not. Derrick is an awesome guy who helped put together an awesome series, but I don't think we should grant him canonization privileges beyond the norm just because most of us like him and his work. --Thylacine 2000 11:56, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

I think Monzo has it absolutely correct. His bio says he's Elite Guard, so we note that. The fact that he's not wearing their symbol is pretty strong evidence that, in the mainstream continuity, he's not Elite Guard. It's not that easy to state a negative fictionally. I mean, Bumblebee says he wants to be Elite Guard, then there is a toy of him with Elite Guard symbols. Maybe HE'S in the Elite-Guard too! --Jimsorenson 12:09, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

I thought EG-BB's bio made it clear that he painted himself to look like EG--requiring that he actually isn't one. --Thylacine 2000 14:50, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

"Undisplayed Mode"

I don't know how valid a trivia item this is. Whenever he turns into Longarm his color scheme changes.--Rosicrucian^Talk 18:07, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

In the very last episode, he turned into the Target-exclusive purple Longarm robot. We never see him as a purple crane, though. --Thylacine 2000 18:36, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

Mentioning if modes go unused for a toy-based character sounds interesting, but where do you draw the line? There's a lot of toy characters who've appeared in fiction, but only in cameos. - Cattleprod 18:48, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

Besides, I just looked at the last episode and I'm pretty sure his color scheme turns to gray when he becomes Longarm. -Mazenoise 19:07, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

Well, he DOES form a purple Longarm, but I don't think we want to go down that road. There are TONS of characters who never Transform into one or more of their modes. --Jimsorenson 21:54, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

Shockwave Voyager Toy's Upper Torso

"They also fail to mention that you can push his upper torso forward as Shockwave to better replicate the slouch that he has in the cartoon." What is this line about? Am I missing something? The instructions do show Longarm's shoulders being pushed up and forward to form a part of Shockwave's upper torso. Noviere 23:58, 5 September 2009 (EDT)

Rotate the chest forward a notch where the bottom of the ribcage meets the tummy. --ItsWalky 00:20, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

Whooooaaah. Holy hidden feature! Thanks ItsWalky. Noviere 00:42, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

Exclusive Yellow Eye?

When I was watching Peaugh's video review of Purple Shockwave, I noticed that his figure had a yellow eye. I know Peaugh frequently paints details on his figures, but in this video he didn't call it out. Is the actual toy endowed with a clear red or an opaque yellow eye? 86.26.252.147 11:01, 27 October 2009 (EDT)

It's red. ---Blackout- 12:32, 27 October 2009 (EDT)

New pic?

So, does anyone think he needs a new main pic? One of him in his "true colors?" I've got this one: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/Shockwave.jpg Yeah, it's cropped from Wyatt's pic, but I think it gets the job done. --Vicious 22:53, 3 January 2010 (EST)

The one we have is fine, I think. If we needed his redeco, we could just grab the unobscured one from the Fan Club comic. --ItsWalky 22:58, 3 January 2010 (EST)

Chugway

Actually, in the badly dubbed in spanish third season of Transformers Animated (done in Colombia instead of Chile as the the rest of the seasons) voice actors pronounce the characters names so bad that they end up calling Shockwave "Chugway" or Choway. Bumblebee is Bom-bleh-bee and Ratchet is either rachet or radchet, and that's just scartching the tip of the iceberg. (THEY MADE STRIKA A MAN! AND PROBABLY FLAREUP AND SLIPSTREAM (because she ended getting a very grave voice, possibly a man or not, its up for discussion).ACIDSTORM92 18:44, 8 May 2010 (EDT)

• It's confirmed, Colombians named Shockwave, ChoWay, because it was hard for them to pronounce Shockwave correctly (it's not a joke, even Megatron and Ultra Magnus refer to him as Choway even though they are (I suppose) experienced voice actors). Most people, even Colombians themselves, hate this dubbing and Colombia is known to be one of the cheapest places to dub a cartoon in Spanish and considered to have the worst dubbing, along with Argentina, of all Latin America. The third season was never rerun in Cartoon Network, in contrast to the first two seasons that were rerun for almost a year, and some local fans suspect this to be one of the main reasons why the third season has not been released on DVD.-ACIDSTORM92 01:29, 2 October 2010 (EDT)