User talk:Interrobang/Archive 1

Novel titles

You realize that Novel titles are supposed to be underlined?

• Episode titles are in quotes
• Franchise titles are italicized
• Book titles are underlined.

It's basic MLA style.

(Foregoing it in the quote templates might not be a bad idea, since it is distracting... but I'm just saying.) -Derik 14:53, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

[1]. And italicizing franchise titles is something we came up with. —Interrobang 16:39, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

Shattered Glass page moves

Don't move the last few by hand yet, or you'll mess up Derik's bot fixing all the links on them. --Jeysie 21:15, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

Kingdom Hearts

I just discovered that you used to edit at the KHwiki, where I am now a mod, but apparently stopped two years ago. As far as I can tell, there was nothing factually wrong with your edits, so I can't imagine that you were blocked; I guess you stopped being interested in the project or something, like I've done with wikipedia. However, if you would be willing, I would like to strongly encourage you to come back - in all fairness to the other frequent editors, most of them are there to bandy about on the talk pages and blogs, and only a few editors are actually working to clean up, expand, and correct the multitude of articles. We could really use your help, so if you ever feel like it, please don't hesitate to come over. Cheers!KrytenKoro 03:59, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

I was blocked because the only admin back then was a gigantic tool and I frequently disagreed with him. Sure, I'm willing to help, but I'd need unblocking. —Interrobang 12:13, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

I'll talk to one of the admins, and I'll notify you as soon as you're unblocked. Thanks!KrytenKoro 00:22, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

In the meantime, I've just registered a new account. I don't think anybody will notice or care, not is there an actual policy against this (or anything regarding what warrants banning, evidently). —Interrobang 01:08, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

The only non-vandal editor we've had to block while I've been there went crazy over something and started cussing at everyone, turned out to be lying about having sisters (which she was sockpuppeting as) and trying to get sympathy for being pregnant and other fake sob stories. And even then, the current admins spent weeks trying to defuse the situation. So, if you can survive at tfwiki, I can't possibly imagine you getting blocked at the KHwiki again.KrytenKoro 02:28, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

I didn't piss you off at khwiki, did I? You don't seem to edit anymore.KrytenKoro 00:53, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

No. I just haven't had a lot of motivation. —Interrobang 02:42, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

Would you happen to have the 358/2 Days Ultimania? Heartstation used to have scans, but their site crashed and they lost most of them. Specifically, I'm looking for a scan of the page that details the stats of Roxas's weapons.KrytenKoro 00:18, 8 January 2010 (EST)

I haven't obtained it yet, no. Thanks for reminding me of its existence, though; I'll get it when the Birth by Sleep one comes out. —Interrobang 14:02, 12 January 2010 (EST)

Parentheticals and franchise of origin

...alright, you and Monzo need to talk, because we can't be re-moving these and changing all the links every three months.--Rosicrucian^Talk 01:50, 15 August 2009 (EDT)

It's okay. I just stopped adding 'em to the Bot's queue awhile ago when I noticed that the same pages kept moving back and forth. -Derik 02:55, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

Er- to clarify... that wasn't a judgment about right/wrong (though I tend to disagree with !?'s stance on the disambigs) it was a recognition that the pages keep moving. (Thought I should say something, 'cuz my comment could come off as rude otherwise. I try not to be be unintentionally rude.) -Derik 03:38, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, okay

...I'm not gonna nuke any more of these for you until you start removing the links to them before you slap the template on them.--Rosicrucian^Talk 01:54, 7 September 2009 (EDT)

Don't blank image descriptions. If there's nothing there but "Importing Image File", add {{recovery|5|Needs description and copyright tag}}. This also removes it from Special:Uncategorizedimages. - SanityOrMadness 13:56, 12 September 2009 (EDT)

Watermarked images

I don't recall us ever having a policy against watermarked images. A watermarked image is better than none; at most, we should be marking them as "to be replaced". If there was a discussion about this, I missed it. -- Repowers 18:55, 13 September 2009 (EDT)

...yeah. Why are you doing this? --M Sipher 19:10, 13 September 2009 (EDT)

Because it's deeply lame to steal content from other websites and then essentially admit we're doing so? —Interrobang 19:41, 16 September 2009 (EDT)

"Roadhog"

I don't get why he had to be moved - in the comics, he's introduced as 'Randy "Roadhog" Horton', Randy being his name, "Roadhog" being his nickname. Why should we have to "pick one and stick with it"? --Emvee 13:41, 15 September 2009 (EDT)

It makes for ugly and silly titles. We don't do "Samuel James "Sam" Witwicky" or "Cyrus "The Colossus" Rhodes". Pick the most common name for the character, use it, and then expand the name in the article. —Interrobang 19:41, 16 September 2009 (EDT)

Okay, I get that, in which case I'd press for 'Randy Horton' since that's his name, or just plain 'Roadhog'. 'Roadhog Horton' doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Besides, if it's ugly, silly titles you're against, Randy "Roadhog" Horton has nothing on Rorza, the Rocket-cycle Racer from Rigel III - which is - again - exactly how he's introduced in the comic. --Emvee 09:22, 17 September 2009 (EDT)

Toys with sound

Is there some talk page I'm missing where we decided to ditch this category? --ItsWalky 14:27, 14 January 2010 (EST)

Okay, if it's unmaintained, maybe we should maintain it. That doesn't seem like a reason to drop it. Lots of things on this wiki are unmaintained. And "stupid" sounds kind of really subjective, and it doesn't really tell me anything. If you don't stop deleting things and have a discussion about this first, I'm going to have to ban you for a day or something. --ItsWalky 14:31, 14 January 2010 (EST)

It seems to have been wiped out in the crash, but discussion when the category first appeared was along the lines of "What's the point?" and that we shouldn't be doing categories on basic toy features. Nobody has done anything since then, and the category has been mostly ignored since then. —Interrobang 14:35, 14 January 2010 (EST)

See, my thinking is, at some point we'll probably want a Lights and Electronics page or whatever, and someone will try to list all the toys that have light sand electronics on that page, and we'll say, no, that's dumb, just make a category, but then the category is deleted. --ItsWalky 17:28, 14 January 2010 (EST)

I don't see why we should do stuff depending on what people might do in the future. (Light piping had a list, and it was deleted with no category formed.) I've started a discussion on the talk page to get the opinions of the community. If the decision is to keep (or if you want it), I'll undo my edits. —Interrobang 18:26, 15 January 2010 (EST)

Splitting up Legends stuff

Why is Tarantulas's Legends stuff being split up into two different sections? Wouldn't it be way way simpler to keep it the way it was? --ItsWalky 17:34, 15 January 2010 (EST)

Well, they just happen to be in the same book; that doesn't mean they're in the same continuity. One story fits into the show's continuity whereas the other doesn't. —Interrobang 18:26, 15 January 2010 (EST)

Category:Generation 1 characters

I read the comments in the change log, so if you provide a little note why you reverted me I wouldn't have to bug you. It is my understanding that since the Category:Generation 1 characters is in the Category:Characters by franchise category, that means that Category:Generation 1 characters is referring to the G1 franchise (not G1 continuity family). Therefore I took out Car Robots characters, Beast Era characters, and Classics characters since they are not part of the G1 franchise. Is that incorrect? - Starfield 00:05, 3 February 2010 (EST)

In the meantime, we don't have a category for characters of the G1 continuity family. If you want to make one, be my guest. —Interrobang 12:05, 5 February 2010 (EST)

Barudigus

Yeah, that romanization is dumb. And makes no more sense by contrast to Bruticus than Baldigus or Valdigus.

• http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=Barudigus&meta=&aq=f&oq=
• http://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=ja&source=hp&q=Barudigus&btnG=Google+%E6%A4%9C%E7%B4%A2&lr=lang_ja&aq=f&oq=
• http://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=ja&safe=off&q=Baldigus&lr=lang_ja&aq=f&oq=
• http://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=ja&safe=off&q=Valdigus&lr=lang_ja&aq=f&oq=

Nobody in neither Japan nor the English-speaking world uses Barudigus. Baldigus, though, seems to be the more popular one amongst the Japanese. --Detour 16:55, 26 February 2010 (EST)

TM-SP DX Convoy and Megatron

I found Megatron at a site called Toys N' Joys and a Convoy on e-Bay. Seemed somewhat less expensive than the guy selling both for $250 plus shipping on e-Bay. --Tigerpaw28 13:19, 28 February 2010 (EST)

I got a Megatron off eBay for $50. I'm going to put off Convoy, since I'm a bit hesitant on getting him for $80. —Interrobang 14:07, 28 February 2010 (EST)

Perfectly understandable. Was that $50 with shipping? If so, I hope that guy has another one. Also hope he isn't the guy using an in-package picture of the TM-02 Megatron for an auction claiming to have a MISB DX Megatron. --Tigerpaw28 14:47, 28 February 2010 (EST)

I got this one. Yeah, it uses a picture of the TM-02 beast mode, but he's got a picture of the DX toy MISB and uses appropriate terminology so I'm sure it's genuine. Too bad there's only one DX Convoy on eBay that isn't part of an overpriced lot. Or a Tigatron. —Interrobang 15:04, 28 February 2010 (EST)

Wow, I never found that listing. He has Convoy too, btw. What I found was this gem which has a picture of TM-02 MISB, but loose pictures of the DX figure and DVD. I think I'm gonna have to grab Convoy and Megatron at those prices. --Tigerpaw28 15:52, 28 February 2010 (EST)

Oh. I never thought to search for "DX Optimus Primal". I am stupid. Bought. —Interrobang 16:34, 28 February 2010 (EST)

Reversioning

'tis a word. Well, it's not in the dictionary, but it's becoming a common term for the dubbing of anime. Funimation often starts off the English credits of their dub shows with "Reversioned by Funimation". - Chris McFeely 12:59, 5 March 2010 (EST)

I thought I didn't just make that term up. But I doubted myself. :( --DrSpengler 13:06, 5 March 2010 (EST)

That seems dumb. We already have plenty of words for that—"dubbing", "localization", "editing", etc. But if its out there, it's out there and I can't really do anything about it. —Interrobang 13:50, 5 March 2010 (EST)

For what it's wroth, 'reversioning' seems to cover narrower ground than any one of the above. Localization is a whole slew of things beyond just entertainment adaptation, dubbing of course includes any voice-over work, and editing is an incredibly broad term as well.--Jimsorenson 13:55, 5 March 2010 (EST)

For the record, "Localization" was actually the word I was looking for but couldn't get it off the tip of my tongue and went with the wonkier sounding (but apparantly more descriptive) "reversioning" instead. But yeah, if we're all cool with "reversioning" then I can switch em back. --DrSpengler 14:46, 5 March 2010 (EST)

I've always figured that Funimation started using "reversion" because of the way "dub" is treated like a four-letter word among otaku. - Chris McFeely 15:24, 5 March 2010 (EST)

Derik's Sandboxes

The guy's on vacation sans Internet at the moment, so you might want to untag his stuff so it doesn't get deleted before he can weigh in on the matter. --Jeysie 08:41, 16 March 2010 (EDT)

Video game pages

Why are you moving the franchise nav boxes to the bottom of pages? They have always been at the top and are still on the top of every other page in each franchise. If you think this should change, please start a discussion first. --Khajidha 11:07, 27 June 2010 (EDT)

Please point me to an instance where "standard format" of video game articles was established. They're not meaningless batches of links like the toyline and franchise pages are. They're actual articles. To treat the two as the same is idiotic. —Interrobang 11:19, 27 June 2010 (EDT)

"Unambiguously female"

In reference to your edit comment on Thunderblast, "unambiguously female" means not like Animated Slipstream, who is cloned from a male, and not like characters who are male in America, but female in France (e.g., Starscream). Et cetera. JW 20:15, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

Removal of Japanese airdates on Animated

Er, why remove them? --Lonegamer78 03:13, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

Because that system of double airdates is reserved for stuff that was dubbed into English, not the other way around, and putting in airdates for Japanese dubbing only sets precedent for putting in other language dub airdates and clogging the infobox. —Interrobang 03:18, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

And what about the fact the Japanese Animated episodes are not the exact same thing as their American counterparts? I'd assume that difference warrants mention of the title and airdates on virtue of not being the same thing, like the German and other Western adaptions are. Geewunling 03:34, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

I don't see a problem with having the other dubbing airdates on the page. It's information, and we crave information. Now, having all that in the infobox is probably not ideal; we should probably stick with the American (or Japanese in the case of shows that never aired here) date in the infobox, but then why not have a link to a new section at the bottom of the page with the international airdates? --M Sipher 10:52, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

I guess that works. Would be also a good location for the dub names. —Interrobang 12:59, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

Minor reverts

I don't care all that much how "clone number 3370318" is sorted, but since you reverted it under a minor edit because you didn't see the point, I just have to ask. You don't see any point at all of sorting by their serial numbers and not the superfluous "clone number" text that comes before it? His designation is actually "3370318". Why shouldn't it be sorted by that? - Starfield 21:56, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

If you don't care, then why did you revert me? Their full names include the "Clone #", and your insistence that the numbers are what they should be shorted by is ridiculously pedantic, even for me, and is only something you imagined up on a whim. What does putting them under "2" and "3" in categories serve? —Interrobang 22:57, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

"____ people"

Whoah Whoah WHOAH. Stop. --M Sipher 19:41, 29 August 2010 (EDT)

What is your issue with categorizing characters by nationality and why wasn't it brought up here? —Interrobang 19:46, 29 August 2010 (EDT)

1) I question its usefulness at all, plus the issues of "real" vs "fictional", plus "alien humans"? I have an issue in general with making a load of new categories without consensus.

2) I don't check the wiki 24/7, as I imagine most don't, so expecting everyone to catch everything in a wiki with hundreds upon hundreds of edits in a single day is really impractical. (Far too often I see indignant "so why does no-one comment? NICE WORK GUYS" comments. Shit slips through. Not everything is instantaneous.) And ONE person saying "I don't care" on something is hardly "go ahead on". --M Sipher 20:07, 29 August 2010 (EDT)

1) I don't see how categorizing human characters by nationality isn't useful. At points as a reader, I've wanted to see all of the Japanese and British characters, but couldn't as there's nothing linking them together. It also helps divide the humans category (400+ articles) into more manageable pieces. (P.S. Starfield came up with "alien humans". Blame him for that.)

2) Why do you assume that nobody saw the talk page because you didn't? Oftentimes, it's because they don't care enough to comment. I see plenty of discussions that I don't comment on because I don't care. Frankly, if nobody replies in six days, of course I'm going to assume nobody cares. —Interrobang 20:17, 29 August 2010 (EDT)

I work on the basis of "missed" because that's far more likely, for the reasons stated above. If nobody comments, bump the "thread", and be patient. There's also an Allspark thread for wiki discussion that is a LOT more likely to be noticed than one edit in a list hundreds long in a single day. --M Sipher 20:26, 29 August 2010 (EDT)

'Kay. So where do we go from here? —Interrobang 21:03, 29 August 2010 (EDT)