User talk:Interrobang/Archive 2

STOP

How many dimes do ye have to tell you? Don't fucking make new categories without a discussion. --FortMax 18:49, 7 September 2010 (EDT)

When exactly did this occur? The only time I've been reprimanded for making new categories (which is pretty fucking often) was the nationality mess. I do hope you're going to go around and shame everybody who took the initiative on making noncontroversial categories. (I.e. everyone.) —Interrobang 18:59, 7 September 2010 (EDT)

Wikia

I don't know if you've heard, but wikia has decided to make a change (mandatorily!) that is 100 times worse than what drove you guys to a new server. I am interested in finding info on how you guys actually performed your move, and what would need to be done before, during, and after to make it work. If you could give me even a link (so that I can show others), that would be hugely helpful.

If you could message me on my wikia talk page, that would be most appreciated. Thanks!KrytenKoro 10:18, 28 September 2010 (EDT)

Are you stupid or something?

You're the one who takes this wiki way too seriously.

Last I was on here, this entire wiki was sarcastic and full of humor.

I will now be undoing all your edits. Thanks. --Tommy-Vercetti 18:00, 8 November 2010 (EST)

Please read Transformers Wiki:Caption. It's true that we have humour here. But the wiki doesn't run on it. And please, refrain from personal attacks. --NCZ 18:02, 8 November 2010 (EST)

And you've never had a problem with these type of additions before, so this guy's reverts have no basis or point. So, I guess encyclopdias should have absolutely no interesting information and should be as boring as possible, right? Why don't you go join Wikipedia then if you want that kind of bullshit.

Personal attacks? More like fact; I call it as I see it.--Tommy-Vercetti 18:05, 8 November 2010 (EST)

I said that "we have humour here, but the wiki doesn't run on it", not that humour should be totally banned. And I really don't know how calling people "stupid" is not a personal attack. Not only that, but Interrobang has given detailed reasons for his removals. You are undoing them for no real reason aside from personally disagreeing. --NCZ 18:13, 8 November 2010 (EST)

Spare me the "he's described"

"Why are you adding pointless formatting" was the extent of his "reasons". Here's why, it adds emphasis... gasp, you know, comedy. And, gasp, I give my reasons. Oh, but that doesn't count, right? Since I'm not your little buttbuddy.

This entire site are worse than Nazis, seriously. You want some pointless trivia, but yet you pick and choose. You're all just a bunch of hypocrites.--Tommy-Vercetti 18:15, 8 November 2010 (EST)

Again, comedy isn't the focal point of this website. We generally just prefer people to make serious contributions before adding humour. I'm just trying to help you out. --NCZ 18:24, 8 November 2010 (EST)

Please go back to Wikia. —Interrobang 18:34, 8 November 2010 (EST)

I don't know, I like him. Can we keep him in a cage or something? -- Semysane 18:40, 8 November 2010 (EST)

Flagging user subpages for deletion

I feel extremely uncomfortable with us as a wiki deciding when to delete sandbox pages independently of the users that create them.--Rosicrucian^Talk 21:38, 14 November 2010 (EST)

Alright, I'll rescind my current suggestions. I still think there should be some sort of moratorium on old user pages that have outlived their usefulness. (And pages just plain useless to the Wiki.) —Interrobang 21:42, 14 November 2010 (EST)

Oh, I can definitely agree that some of them are vanity pages or otherwise of questionable usefulness. I've just seen some users nurse an article draft along at a glacial pace, so those in particular are the ones I'm not sure we want to delete.--Rosicrucian^Talk 21:53, 14 November 2010 (EST)

Hello

Hi, I'd like to apologize about missplace the comment in the wrong place because a small part of the words in the comments look same. Sorry about that. :) --TX55^TALK 00:17, 23 November 2010 (EST)

"Micron Legend" <> "Micron Densetsu"

Why "Densetsu" instead of "Legend"? --Lonegamer78 04:08, 25 November 2010 (EST)

Because it's the actual name of the series. And if you wanted to translate it, the official translation is "Legends of the Microns". —Interrobang 14:07, 25 November 2010 (EST)

Can't argue that, although I think "Legend of the Microns" would be a better redirect instead of using "Densetsu"... At least mention something like that in the future in the editing summary instead of just suddenly changing everything out of the blue. --Lonegamer78 15:26, 25 November 2010 (EST)

Bolts

You've linked the name "Bolts" to the Eject article a few times. Is there any evidence/suggestion Bolts became Eject rather than that he inspired both him and Rewind? Geewunling 10:20, 11 December 2010 (EST)

Bolts is a "tough robot". The closest character to that descriptor is Eject. If you don't feel that's enough, then you can remove the links; I don't really care that much. —Interrobang 10:48, 11 December 2010 (EST)

It's not that I don't think Eject is the most likely candidate, but I find the description "tough" weird as a description of personality when the rest of the descriptions only cover transformation, not to mention that the role of fighting Ravage went to Rewind. So, I just wanted to know if there's solid evidence for Eject before I'd add clearer notes. Geewunling 11:12, 11 December 2010 (EST)

French episode titles

While other info on this page seems suspect in certain ways, are the episode titles listed here correct?

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers#Premi.C3.A8re_saison_.281984.29

--Monzo 01:53, 14 December 2010 (EST)

Interesting question. This site offers different titles for a whole bunch of those, but they just might be the Québécois version's dub titles. --Detour 02:01, 14 December 2010 (EST)

Good question. I have no idea. My short search tuned up some French DVDs with the same titles, but there's always a chance that the DVD's title doesn't match that of the episodes. —Interrobang 16:28, 14 December 2010 (EST)

Rodimus vs. Cyclonus

Uh... fuck you, too, asshole, and your crazy over-reaction. That's a perfectly acceptable way to do things in Animated, why not G1? - Starfield 18:26, 25 December 2010 (EST)

Yeah, because in Animated the comics were written by the show's story editor (ie the show-runner), explicitly indicated as taking place in perfect continuity with the TV show itself (barring some art goofs/liberties), was published at the same time the show itself was on the air, etc. This comic, on the other hand, is something written by Furman (who had nothing to do with the cartoon) almost 25 years after the movie's theater run and features numerous differences, especially with character designs. --Detour 19:28, 25 December 2010 (EST)

To the point that, frankly, I almost question putting it under the "cartoon continuity" header. - Chris McFeely 19:36, 25 December 2010 (EST)

What Detour said. The logical outcome of your method would be to assemble every single piece of G1 cartoon fiction into one abomination of a section. Including the Madman comic, Scramble City, the Japanese cartoons, and the Japanese comics. Or assembling all of the BW fiction into one section. Surprise! We don't do that. I am sorry our organizational structure that we've had for years has escaped your purview.

In regards to "cartoon continuity", I wouldn't be opposed to moving it out, if we regard the bodies as a distinct enough aspect for continuity separation. —Interrobang 19:42, 25 December 2010 (EST)

My brain really wants to consider RvC like the Wings of Honor continuity, taking place in a cartoon-like continuity but not THE continuity. But the tag at the end of the comic that says "to find out what happens, watch the 1986 animated film!" makes me think it actually takes place in the literal cartoon continuity, different bodies be damned. --ItsWalky 19:45, 25 December 2010 (EST)

1. Character designs are not canonically significant with IDW these days or every issue of the ongoing would be out of continuity with the next.
2. The issue does say "This story was concluded in the 1986 animated film: Transformers: The Movie".
3. I don't know what the author has to do with anything in Transformers fiction. Once a piece of fiction is made, it isn't like it is "theirs" and off-limits to everyone else.
4. I don't know about numerous differences. Not any more than that the usual number of differences, I'd say. We didn't know before that Lugnut was at the Battle of Autobot City. Anything else? - Starfield 21:33, 25 December 2010 (EST)

The difference is we don't put those latter-day additions into the original section, concurrent with them. Note the Madman DVD pack-in comic (the one by Furman and Roche) is in its own subheading, despite being part of cartoon continuity. We should do the same here. As Detour explained, yes, Animated is a special case. --ItsWalky 21:39, 25 December 2010 (EST)

I didn't know much about the Madman comic. If that's how its done, that's how its done. - Starfield 22:05, 25 December 2010 (EST)

Kup (Prime)

Yeah, there's a voice clip of Kup reciting the universal greeting, but it's so heavily processed, it's difficult to recognise the voice. Alas, he's not listed in the credits. --abates 05:11, 2 February 2011 (EST)

Thank you for answering my query. —Interrobang 05:14, 2 February 2011 (EST)

Lugnuts Supreme

See the newest section of the Lugnut Supreme Talk page to find out just what SFH was doing.--Apcog 17:22, 13 February 2011 (EST)

Foreign names

All right, I now understand. Thank you. But...why?-ACIDSTORM92 20:30, 22 February 2011 (EST)

Flooding RC

Can you just start a bot? Because right now you're flooding recent changes with minor category changes.~

-Blackout-

I'm not sure why you care, as you're banned from editing, or why you think I can program a bot to do the category changes. I'm pretty much done for now, anyway. —Interrobang 03:31, 11 March 2011 (EST)

2011 voting

Hey, Interro? Just in this one instance, can you specify which Jetstorm you're voting for? I'd just like it noted for the record. --Monzo 04:01, 29 March 2011 (EDT)

H/Wall of Fame

That article already exists. Geewunling 04:08, 3 April 2011 (EDT)

D'oh. Thanks for informing me. —Interrobang 04:13, 3 April 2011 (EDT)

I assume you are scanning through the entire Marvel series for undocumented material. If you are, could you do me a favour? I'm interested in a list of every instance a reference is made (usually in the form of "by the...") to the Great Dome or the (Celestial) Spires, so if you could note those down, that'd be appreciated (starting from whichever issue you are at now, of course). Geewunling 07:00, 3 April 2011 (EDT)

I'll try to keep an eye out for that. I'm doing the US series first then tackling the UK issues. —Interrobang 07:10, 3 April 2011 (EDT)

Thanks... but if you are going to tackle the UK series, could you then also keep an eye out for two letter pages? I'm looking for the issues in which Optimus's dislike for Mötley Crüe was mentioned and in which it was mentioned that Shockwave's underwater base is made from the Decepticons' ship with which they attacked the Ark. Geewunling 08:11, 3 April 2011 (EDT)

Uhm... remember when I asked you to keep an eye out for the Spires? I'm pretty sure the Golden Spires and the Celestial Spires are the same thing, with the latter being the name and the former more of a description. And I'm not sure if "of Iacon" is part of the name either, since they are regularly referred to as just Spires as well. It's not bad you went ahead and made an article, but the Spires (and the Great Dome) are things better left alone until you've scanned through all of the Marvel material (yes, the Spires are even mentioned once in the G2 comics, and also once in the IDW LSotW comics). Geewunling 05:02, 23 May 2011 (EDT)

Shrug. My editing habits are to create articles when I first see names and phrases and then add more references and information as they come up. I'd forget about them otherwise. If "Celestial Spires" becomes more prominent and is equivalent to "Golden Spires", then we can just move the page. —Interrobang 05:31, 23 May 2011 (EDT)

• Great Dome
  • "By the Great Dome of Iacon!" ("Kings of the Wild Frontier.")
  • "By the Great Dome!" ("Dark Creation")

Great Dome question

I need to know something about the Great Dome in the cartoon continuity that I cannot figure out on my own, but hope you can help with. In The Headmasters, "Iacon" is called "Autobot Base". This page in Generations suggests the same is true for the Japanese version of The Transformers, but I'd like confirmation from the Japanese episode itself (for that matter, does Generations say anything interesting at all about the base?).
On a sidenote, I wanted to say that I am impressed about your recent work on Super-God Masterforce. Especially the Decepticon Base and Cab's treehouse pages are a treat to see expand. Geewunling 10:52, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

I can't say I'm knowledgeable about the Japanese version of the original cartoon or know how to find translations of it. (I don't actually understand Japanese fluently.) Sorry I'm not of much help, but thank you for your comments.

From my Kanji searches, that Generations scan seems to indicate the "top" of the "Cybertron/Autobot base on Cybertron" is the launching pad for spaceships. I think "Autobot Base" specifically refers to the Great Dome itself and not Iacon. —Interrobang 14:38, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

Too much?

;) Alientraveller 06:29, 18 May 2011 (EDT)

Two stormmaker stations

I wrote an article of the Stormmaker Station a few weeks ago. I leave it to you to decide which one should be kept. Geewunling 02:01, 23 May 2011 (EDT)

Yours is a bit more in-depth, so. Although my gut is to decaptialize it, since it's referred to as "the stormmaker installation" and "the stormmaker station" (well, "ssstormmaker sssation") but I don't really care that much to move it. —Interrobang 02:34, 23 May 2011 (EDT)

Capitalization is always guesswork and if I recall correctly, the primary reason I had it capitalized was because the one link asking for the article had it capitalized. It might make more sense to move it to the decapitalized location since the related articles you wrote are also decapitalized. Geewunling 02:41, 23 May 2011 (EDT)

Moot point now. It's less work to change the text now than wait for somebody to delete "stormmaker station". —Interrobang 02:44, 23 May 2011 (EDT)

Japanese Names

I thought the general consensus was to use an existing official English Romanization or Transliteration from an English release if one existed. Do the Madman subtitles not count? Or, am I wrong about the consensus? -- Terrortron 09:29, 27 May 2011 (EDT)

Evac (Prime)

They announced new figures for a Character called Evac at San Diego Comic-Con, and is said to appear in Transformers Prime, should we wait until he makes an appearance in the show to create his own article? --Metroplex 22:22, 22 July 2011 (EDT)

HM image request

Think you could get an image of the toys Daniel drops when he goes emo in "Terror! The Six Shadows" for that page's Notes section? Geewunling 13:41, 31 July 2011 (EDT)

Thanks! Geewunling 14:26, 31 July 2011 (EDT)

Requests, questions & stuff

1. Would you be able to get the kana for Dammar?
2. The cartoon timeline page you're currently writing claims A3 and Beta were the first of their kind, but that certainly wasn't information presented in the episode cited. Would that be something from the Japanese version?
3. About energon wine, I feel the current page is lacking info, but am not sure whether to deal with it through a note or putting stuff in the fiction section. The episode doesn't ever explain what energon wine is as opposed to normal energon, so what about the Decepticons getting drunk in "Microbots" or the stuff the Trainbots and Sixshot drunk in "Terror! The Six Shadows!" (at least Sixshot appears to be drinking something fancy)? I believe it should be mentioned, but I'm not sure how to go at it. Geewunling 02:40, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

1. I'll try, but no promises, as it's such an obscure name. Most of the kana I've been getting recently are from official boilerplate summaries given to video streaming sites.
2. Ah, I must have mistakenly made the Beta thing up in my mind during my long reading and typing sessions. The timeline definitely says it about A3, though. When I'm done with the timeline, I'm going to try to get others to fact-check it.
3. Personally, I'd put the Sixshot thing in fiction, and mention the intoxicating properties of plain energon as shown in other series in a note. —Interrobang 02:49, 1 August 2011 (EDT)