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[[Image:Intro3 4 with error.jpg|right|200px|thumb|The error you've seen over 33 times.]]
[[File:Intro3 4 with error.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The error you've seen over 33 times.]]
'''Animation errors''' are phenomena in cartoons, which means some scenes are weird, inconsistent, or even illogical. Sometimes these represented multiples of otherwise unique characters, characters appearing in inappropriate scenes (even after their original deaths in some cases), inexplicable deviations from [[Character model|character models]], and odd size variations. They were most rampant in the original ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1]]'' cartoon, due to the low animation budget. However, the cartoon was not alone in this respect considering the production values of most other cartoons in the 1980s.  
'''Animation errors''' are phenomena in cartoons, which means some scenes are weird, inconsistent, or even illogical. Sometimes these represented multiples of otherwise unique characters, characters appearing in inappropriate scenes (even after their original deaths in some cases), inexplicable deviations from [[character model]]s, and odd size variations. They were most rampant in the original ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1]]'' cartoon, due to the low animation budget. However, the cartoon was not alone in this respect, considering the production values of most other cartoons in the 1980s.
 
==Fiction==
===Ask Vector Prime===
 
What outside observers identify as "animation errors" are actually the result of time and space anomalies occurring within the universe, but only for the briefest of moments. The many reality-bending exploits of the Transformers have resulted in numerous instances of these logical impossibilities. The anomalies are then "self-correcting", disappearing as soon as they happen, and thus maintaining the integrity of the universe. The erasure of these anomalies causes those who have observed/experienced them to forget them immediately, as they have been wiped from history, hence how nobody ever seems to "notice" them. {{storylink|Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#September 30, 2015|Ask Vector Prime, 30 September 2015}}
 
Known causes of these anomalies:
 
*[[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]]
*The destruction of [[Unicron]]
*The [[Unicron Singularity]]
*The [[Quintesson]] [[Time Window]]
*The [[Eurythma|Eurythmic]] [[Harmony]] (identified as particularly potent)


==Types of animation errors==
==Types of animation errors==
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===Animation and technical glitches===
===Animation and technical glitches===
====Off-model====
Sometimes, a character is drawn ''severely'' off-model, with weird proportions, shapes and details that deviate drastically from the official [[character model]]. This is usually limited to a single shot, or even just a single ''frame''.
<center><gallery>
Image:DivideandConquer slopedPrime.jpg|Aerodynamic Optimus Prime.<br>{{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}
Image:Bluestreakpotatovehicle.jpg|Bluestreak's not in the best shape taday.<br>{{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}
Image:Attack of the Autobots Optimus Prime truck mode.jpg|Clearly not the work of the same animator.<br>{{storylink|Attack of the Autobots (episode)}}
Image:GhostInTheMachine Bumblebee huge wheels.jpg|Bumblebee put on Optimus Prime's wheels.<br>{{storylink|Ghost in the Machine (G1)}}
</gallery></center>
====Miscoloring====
====Miscoloring====
[[Image:FFOD4 mass mistakes.JPG|right|180px|thumb|Best example, ever.<br>{{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}}]]
[[File:FFOD4 mass mistakes.JPG|thumb|Best example, ever.<br>{{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}}]]


Perhaps the most common error is when a character is colored incorrectly. Sometimes they are colored like other characters mistakenly; other times the coloring is totally off, like [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] painted white (and not as [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]). Miscoloring should not be confused with [[Palette swap|palette swaps]], which are for the most part intentional; nor discoloring, which refers to fading, yellowing or staining rather than colouring errors.
Perhaps the most common error is when a character is colored incorrectly. Sometimes they are colored like other characters mistakenly; other times the coloring is totally off, like [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] painted white (and not as [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]]). Miscoloring should not be confused with [[palette swap]]s, which are for the most part intentional; nor discoloring, which refers to fading, yellowing or staining rather than colouring errors.
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====Sizing errors====
====Sizing errors====
It's not for no reason that people joke that [[scale]] doesn't exist in ''Transformers'', and this type of error is part of why--most shows do still use [[scale charts]], and this is when the animation ends up being grotesquely off from the size the characters are "supposed" to be. Sometimes for dramatic effect or a specific moment, and other times, it's just a flat-out mistake.
<center><gallery>
File:Vector Prime-Landmine.jpg|Vector Prime's robot model wasn't resized post-transformation<br>{{storylink|Landmine (episode)|Landmine}}
File:Cyb ep29 scale nightmare.jpg|Attack of the 500-Metron Thundercracker<br>{{storylink|Starscream (episode)|Starscream}}
File:Gigantic Hot Shot.jpg|[[Drift (AOE)|Someone]] expected a giant car?<br>{{storylink|Honor}}
</gallery></center>
====Layer issues====
====Layer issues====
These amusing cases involve the various animation cels for individual characters being stacked wrong, leading to characters who should be in the back in group shots appearing in the front. Since they were supposed to be in the background, of course, they were drawn as being smaller, hence when they inadvertently get moved up front, they're hilariously dinky. Layer issues should not be confused with [[size changing]].
These amusing cases involve the various animation cels for individual characters being stacked wrong, leading to characters who should be in the back in group shots appearing in the front. Since they were supposed to be in the background, of course, they were drawn as being smaller, hence when they inadvertently get moved up front, they're hilariously dinky. Layer issues should not be confused with [[size changing]].


<center><gallery>
<center><gallery>
Image:Tinybluestreak.jpg|Looks like Bluestreak participated in bring-your-kid-to-work-day. Not to mention GIANT OPTIMUS PRIME.<br /> {{storylink|City of Steel|City of Steel}}
Image:Tinybluestreak.jpg|Looks like Bluestreak participated in bring-your-kid-to-work-day. Not to mention GIANT OPTIMUS PRIME.<br />{{storylink|City of Steel (episode)|City of Steel}}
Image:Huge Ironhide and Small Ratchet.jpg|Aw, look. So did Ratchet. They're so cute.<br /> {{storylink|Masquerade|Masquerade}}
Image:Huge Ironhide and Small Ratchet.jpg|Aw, look. So did Ratchet. They're so cute.<br />{{storylink|Masquerade}}
Image:CarnageMiniBlaster.jpg|Okay, this is getting annoying.<br /> {{storylink|Carnage in C-Minor|Carnage in C-Minor}}
Image:Childs Play layer issues.jpg|This one is messed up beyond belief.<br />{{storylink|Child's Play (episode)|Child's Play}}
Image:CarnageMiniBlaster.jpg|Okay, this is getting annoying.<br />{{storylink|Carnage in C-Minor}}
</gallery></center>
 
====Clipping====
Present in the various CGI series, this is when part of one model phases through another. This tends to happen fairly often if you look for it, given that the casts of many shows have fairly bulky designs with [[Kibble|a lot of parts to get in the way.]]
<center><gallery>
Image:ProvingGrounds Rhinox clippingerror.jpg|When Clippy Attacks!<br>{{storylink|Proving Grounds (BW)|Proving Grounds}}
</gallery></center>
 
====Speeling mistakes====
No, reelly.
<center><gallery>
Image:Deceptacon.jpg|{{storylink|A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court (episode)|A Decepticon Raider in<br>King Arthur's Court}}
Image:OnlyHuman Newtronium.jpg|{{storylink|Only Human}}
Image:E18 titlecard.jpg|It was the best of tyme, it was the worst of tyme.<br>{{storylink|A Tale of Two Heros}}
Image:Improsonedinferno.jpg|He spent the last few cycles building up an immunity to iocine powder.<br>{{storylink|Imprisoned Inferno|Improsoned Inferno}}
</gallery></center>
</gallery></center>


===Continuity error===
===Continuity error===
====Dead men standing====
====Dead men standing====
There have been several examples of characters appearing after they have supposedly died, most notably in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] and [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] made appearances in the third season of the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|cartoon]], while [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] showed up in the [[The Headmasters (cartoon)|''The Headmasters'']] and [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|''Victory'']] cartoons.
There have been several examples of characters appearing after they have supposedly died, most notably in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]], [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]], and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] made appearances in the third season of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon]], while [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] showed up in the [[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|''The Headmasters'']] and [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|''Victory'']] cartoons.


<center><gallery>
<center><gallery>
Image:DeceptiBrawn1.jpg|[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] appears in the third season while he has died [[The Transformers: The Movie|previously]].<br /> {{storylink|Carnage in C-Minor|Carnage in C-Minor}}
Image:DeceptiBrawn1.jpg|[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] appears in the third season while he has died [[The Transformers: The Movie|previously]]. [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] was also stated to have died during the same events.<br /> {{storylink|Carnage in C-Minor}}
Image:Windcharger-COTP01.jpg|[[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] appears in the third season while he has died [[The Transformers: The Movie|previously]], too. <br /> {{storylink|Call of the Primitives|Call of the Primitives}}
Image:Windcharger-COTP01.jpg|[[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] appears in the third season while he has died [[The Transformers: The Movie|previously]], too. <br /> {{storylink|Call of the Primitives}}
</gallery></center>
</gallery></center>


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<center><gallery>
<center><gallery>
Image:Transfixatron.jpg|Came to Earth to search for his right hand.<br /> {{storylink|The Autobot Run|The Autobot Run}}
Image:Transfixatron.jpg|Shockwave came to Earth to search for his right hand.<br /> {{storylink|The Autobot Run}}
Image:Decepticons w galvatron.jpg|"Yay, we're going to save me, Galvatron!"<br /> {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}}
Image:Decepticons w galvatron.jpg|"Yay, we're going to save me, Galvatron!"<br /> {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}}
Image:Partydownperceptor.jpg|Even being held captive on a distant planet can't keep Perceptor from a good party.<br /> {{storylink|Party Down}}
</gallery></center>
</gallery></center>


==Notable examples==
==Notable examples==
===Generation One===
[[File:Optimus prime nomouthplate.jpg|thumb|center|upright=1.66|<center>The Epic "Missing Piece Optimus Prime" (Not [[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]])<br>{{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}}</center>]]
[[Image:Optimus_prime_nomouthplate.jpg|thumb|center|300px|<center>The Epic "Missing Piece Optimus Prime" <small>(Not [[Masterpiece]])</small><br>{{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}}</center>]]
<center><small>For more pictures, please visit the [[Animation error/gallery|gallery]].</small></center>
<center><small>For more pictures, please visit the [[Animation error/gallery|gallery]].</small></center>
===Beast Wars===


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==Animation errors in remastered versions==
==Animation errors in remastered versions==
Some animation errors could happen after remastering, such as [[:Image:Fitm dvd broadcast.jpg|those]] in the episode "[[Fire on the Mountain]]". This is because Rhino's remasters - initially created due to the degradation of the 1 inch NTSC broadcast tapes<ref>"I, personally, went to New York, where the original broadcast one-inch masters are housed... Before the question is asked, I'll answer it now. The one-inch masters have not physically held up well over the years. In some cases, they're nearly unwatchable." - [[Brian Ward]], on his investigations for the [[Shout! Factory]] releases, http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/1551/thread.aspx </ref> - of the Generation 1 cartoon were based on preliminary film prints of the animation<ref>"There are no current plans for Blu-ray, though, it's something I would love to own myself one day. The problem is this, no one has successfully found the original BROADCAST film elements (Rhino used PRE-broadcast film for their releases, hence all the problems), which means there's nothing to restore and make high-def quality." - [[Brian Ward]], in response to a question about the [[Shout! Factory]] releases, http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/1551/thread.aspx#5734 </ref> (the final film masters having been lost or destroyed), from which some errors were fixed before the original transmission.
Some animation errors could happen after remastering, such as [[:Image:Fitm dvd broadcast.jpg|those]] in the episode "[[Fire on the Mountain (episode)|Fire on the Mountain]]". This is because [[Rhino Entertainment]]'s remasters—initially created due to the degradation of the 1 inch NTSC broadcast tapes<ref>"I, personally, went to New York, where the original broadcast one-inch masters are housed... Before the question is asked, I'll answer it now. The one-inch masters have not physically held up well over the years. In some cases, they're nearly unwatchable." [[Brian Ward]], on his investigations for the [[Shout! Factory]] releases, http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/1551/thread.aspx</ref>—of the Generation 1 cartoon were based on preliminary film prints of the animation<ref>"There are no current plans for Blu-ray, though, it's something I would love to own myself one day. The problem is this, no one has successfully found the original BROADCAST film elements (Rhino used PRE-broadcast film for their releases, hence all the problems), which means there's nothing to restore and make high-def quality." [[Brian Ward]], in response to a question about the [[Shout! Factory]] releases, http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/1551/thread.aspx#5734</ref> (the final film masters having been lost or destroyed), from which some errors were fixed before the original transmission.


==Notable episodes==
==Notable episodes==
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*[[Carnage in C-Minor]]
*[[Carnage in C-Minor]]
*[[Child's Play (episode)|Child's Play]]
*[[Child's Play (episode)|Child's Play]]
*[[Five Faces of Darkness]] (all five parts)
*[[The Search for Alpha Trion]]
==Other trivia==
*Sometimes, a later creator may choose to interpret animation errors more literally. Humorously, [[LG-43 Trypticon Project Chapter|volume 42]] of the 2014 ''[[Transformers Legends (comic)|Transformers Legends]]'' online manga gives [[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]] the same erroneous blue coloring as he had in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4]]".
==See also==
*[[Miscolorings based on the Generation 1 cartoon]]


==References==
==References==
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The error you've seen over 33 times.

Animation errors are phenomena in cartoons, which means some scenes are weird, inconsistent, or even illogical. Sometimes these represented multiples of otherwise unique characters, characters appearing in inappropriate scenes (even after their original deaths in some cases), inexplicable deviations from character models, and odd size variations. They were most rampant in the original Generation 1 cartoon, due to the low animation budget. However, the cartoon was not alone in this respect, considering the production values of most other cartoons in the 1980s.

Fiction

[edit]

Ask Vector Prime

[edit]

What outside observers identify as "animation errors" are actually the result of time and space anomalies occurring within the universe, but only for the briefest of moments. The many reality-bending exploits of the Transformers have resulted in numerous instances of these logical impossibilities. The anomalies are then "self-correcting", disappearing as soon as they happen, and thus maintaining the integrity of the universe. The erasure of these anomalies causes those who have observed/experienced them to forget them immediately, as they have been wiped from history, hence how nobody ever seems to "notice" them. Ask Vector Prime, 30 September 2015

Known causes of these anomalies:

Types of animation errors

[edit]

Animation errors are often separated into two types:

Animation and technical glitches

[edit]

Off-model

[edit]

Sometimes, a character is drawn severely off-model, with weird proportions, shapes and details that deviate drastically from the official character model. This is usually limited to a single shot, or even just a single frame.

Miscoloring

[edit]
Best example, ever.
Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4

Perhaps the most common error is when a character is colored incorrectly. Sometimes they are colored like other characters mistakenly; other times the coloring is totally off, like Optimus Prime painted white (and not as Ultra Magnus). Miscoloring should not be confused with palette swaps, which are for the most part intentional; nor discoloring, which refers to fading, yellowing or staining rather than colouring errors.

Sizing errors

[edit]

It's not for no reason that people joke that scale doesn't exist in Transformers, and this type of error is part of why--most shows do still use scale charts, and this is when the animation ends up being grotesquely off from the size the characters are "supposed" to be. Sometimes for dramatic effect or a specific moment, and other times, it's just a flat-out mistake.

Layer issues

[edit]

These amusing cases involve the various animation cels for individual characters being stacked wrong, leading to characters who should be in the back in group shots appearing in the front. Since they were supposed to be in the background, of course, they were drawn as being smaller, hence when they inadvertently get moved up front, they're hilariously dinky. Layer issues should not be confused with size changing.

Clipping

[edit]

Present in the various CGI series, this is when part of one model phases through another. This tends to happen fairly often if you look for it, given that the casts of many shows have fairly bulky designs with a lot of parts to get in the way.

Speeling mistakes

[edit]

No, reelly.

Continuity error

[edit]

Dead men standing

[edit]

There have been several examples of characters appearing after they have supposedly died, most notably in The Transformers: The Movie. Brawn, Huffer, and Windcharger made appearances in the third season of the cartoon, while Prowl and Wheeljack showed up in the The Headmasters and Victory cartoons.

Wrong place at the wrong time

[edit]

Sometimes, characters who have been captured or gone missing will suddenly show up in their base or team with no explanation.

Notable examples

[edit]
The Epic "Missing Piece Optimus Prime" (Not Masterpiece)
The Search for Alpha Trion
For more pictures, please visit the gallery.


Animation errors in remastered versions

[edit]

Some animation errors could happen after remastering, such as those in the episode "Fire on the Mountain". This is because Rhino Entertainment's remasters—initially created due to the degradation of the 1 inch NTSC broadcast tapes<ref>"I, personally, went to New York, where the original broadcast one-inch masters are housed... Before the question is asked, I'll answer it now. The one-inch masters have not physically held up well over the years. In some cases, they're nearly unwatchable." — Brian Ward, on his investigations for the Shout! Factory releases, http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/1551/thread.aspx</ref>—of the Generation 1 cartoon were based on preliminary film prints of the animation<ref>"There are no current plans for Blu-ray, though, it's something I would love to own myself one day. The problem is this, no one has successfully found the original BROADCAST film elements (Rhino used PRE-broadcast film for their releases, hence all the problems), which means there's nothing to restore and make high-def quality." — Brian Ward, in response to a question about the Shout! Factory releases, http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/1551/thread.aspx#5734</ref> (the final film masters having been lost or destroyed), from which some errors were fixed before the original transmission.

Notable episodes

[edit]

Other trivia

[edit]

See also

[edit]

References

[edit]
<references />



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