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The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple | The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple 3 mm bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen/N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|gold-packaging ''Transformers'' line]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'', the C joint has seen much more widespread use. | ||
The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Miyake | The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Tomoya Miyake]],<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref> who first used it on the [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Recon|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide]] toy. | ||
==Toys with C joints== | ==Toys with C joints== | ||
===Revenge of the Fallen | ===''Revenge of the Fallen''=== | ||
{{collist|3| | {{collist|3| | ||
* [[Brawn (ROTF)|Brawn]] (bars only) | * [[Brawn (ROTF)|Brawn]] (bars only) | ||
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* [[Scattorshot (ROTF)|Scattorshot]] (bars only - his guns) | * [[Scattorshot (ROTF)|Scattorshot]] (bars only - his guns) | ||
* [[Skystalker (ROTF)|Skystalker]] | * [[Skystalker (ROTF)|Skystalker]] | ||
}} | }}{{-}} | ||
===Transformers (2010)=== | ===''Transformers'' (2010)=== | ||
{{collist|3| | {{collist|3| | ||
* [[Breacher]] | * [[Breacher (TF 2010)|Breacher]] | ||
* [[Fallback (TF 2010)|Fallback]] (bars only) | * [[Fallback (TF 2010)|Fallback]] (bars only) | ||
* [[Firetrap]] (bars only - his guns) | * [[Firetrap]] (bars only - his guns) | ||
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* [[Windcharger (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Windcharger]] (bars only) | * [[Windcharger (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Windcharger]] (bars only) | ||
* [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] | * [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] | ||
}} | }}{{-}} | ||
===Generations | ===''Generations''=== | ||
{{collist|3| | {{collist|3| | ||
* [[Straxus (G1)#Generations|Darkmount]] / [[Skullgrin#Generations|Skullgrin]] | * [[Straxus (G1)#Generations|Darkmount]] / [[Skullgrin#Generations|Skullgrin]] | ||
* [[ | * [[Kup (G1)/toys#Generations|Sergeant Kup]] | ||
* [[ | * [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Generations|Scourge]] | ||
* [[ | * [[Thunderwing (G1)#Generations|Thunderwing]] / [[Black Shadow (G1)#Generations|Sky Shadow]] (bars only - his guns) | ||
* [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations|Wheeljack]] | * [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations|Wheeljack]] | ||
* [[ | * [[Junkyard (G1)#Generations|Junkheap]] | ||
}}{{-}} | }}{{-}} | ||
===United=== | ===''United''=== | ||
{{note|This section lists only those molds or retools that have no Western release, molds released in the West retain their functionality when released in Japan.}} | {{note|This section lists only those molds or retools that have no Western release, molds released in the West retain their functionality when released in Japan.}} | ||
{{collist|3| | {{collist|3| | ||
* [[Frenzy (G1)#United|Frenzy]] / [[Rumble (G1)#United|Rumble]] | * [[Frenzy (G1)#United|Frenzy]] / [[Rumble (G1)#United|Rumble]] | ||
* [[Scrapheap (G1)|Scrapheap]] | * [[Scrapheap (G1)|Scrapheap]] | ||
}} | }}{{-}} | ||
===Dark of the Moon=== | ===''Dark of the Moon''=== | ||
{{collist|3| | {{collist|3| | ||
* [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] (bars only - his arms) | * [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] (bars only - his arms) | ||
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}} | }} | ||
====Human Alliance==== | ====''Human Alliance''==== | ||
{{collist|3| | {{collist|3| | ||
* [[Backfire (TF 2010)#Dark of the Moon|Backfire]] | * [[Backfire (TF 2010)#Dark of the Moon|Backfire]] | ||
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}} | }} | ||
====Cyberverse==== | ====''Cyberverse''==== | ||
[[File:Clip system cyberverse.jpg|thumb|upright= | [[File:Clip system cyberverse.jpg|thumb|upright=.75]] | ||
* All [[Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]] figures have at least one hand that is a clip. All Cyberverse weapon platforms/playsets have the usual smattering of clips and bars. They also all have a uniform placement of clips and bars on the sides of one of their modes, allowing them to connect to one another. | * All ''[[Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]]'' figures have at least one hand that is a clip. All Cyberverse weapon platforms/playsets have the usual smattering of clips and bars. They also all have a uniform placement of clips and bars on the sides of one of their modes, allowing them to connect to one another. | ||
{{--}} | {{-}} | ||
===''Titans Return''=== | |||
{{collist|1| | |||
* [[Horri-Bull#Generations|Terri-Bull]] / [[Flywheels#Generations|Skytread]] | |||
}}{{-}} | |||
===The Last Knight=== | ===''The Last Knight''=== | ||
{{collist| | {{collist|1| | ||
* [[Sqweeks# | * [[Sqweeks#The Last Knight|Sqweeks]] (Bars only, all 4 handlebars are compatible) | ||
}} | }} | ||
====''Tiny Turbo Changers''==== | |||
[[File:TLK-toy TTC-Cogman.jpg|right|thumb|150px|"Give me a weapon, sir. Please."]] | |||
Almost all of the Tiny Turbo Changers feature 3 mm fists for their robot modes. This means that they can cling to any bot or weapon with 3 mm bars, making for either some hilariously over-armed tiny robots... or some comedy antics with the larger bots. | |||
{{--}} | |||
==Notes== | ==Notes== | ||
* [[ | * [[LEGO]] has long made use of 3 mm bars and clips as well. In practice, LEGO's standard is just the slightest bit larger than Hasbro's, so LEGO clips with even a little wear will only loosely grip C joint bars. Still, LEGO minifigures can cling to your 3 mm-bar-equipped Transformers, and their vehicles (assuming they incorporate the appropriate parts) can mount 3 mm clip weapons. | ||
:*Naturally, this means that similar-construction [[Kre-O]] parts should work as well. | :*Naturally, this means that similar-construction [[Kre-O]] parts should work as well. | ||
* While C joints ''per se'' were not developed until the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline, many previously made toys have similarly sized bars that can be used to attach C joint weaponry. At least [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generation 1|one example]] dates to the earliest days of the franchise. The [[Action Master]] weapons' handles are all C joint-compatible pegs, though the general lack of clips on the robots themselves means this compatibility has somewhat limited practical application for modern figures. Still, you could give the Action Master partners some extra weaponry. | * While C joints ''per se'' were not developed until the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline, many previously made toys have similarly sized bars that can be used to attach C joint weaponry. At least [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generation 1|one example]] dates to the earliest days of the franchise. The [[Action Master]] weapons' handles are all C joint-compatible pegs, though the general lack of clips on the robots themselves means this compatibility has somewhat limited practical application for modern figures. Still, you could give the Action Master partners some extra weaponry. | ||
* ...but be careful about it. As with [[ | * ...but be careful about it. As with [[5 mm post]]s, a bar that appears to be 3 mm may not quite be 3 mm. '''{{SITENAME SHORT}}''' will not be held responsible if you break the clips on your weapons trying to force them onto bars that are too big. | ||
* Because clips are attached to the right side of the [[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]], it is technically the largest C-joint accessory yet made. | * Because clips are attached to the right side of the [[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]], it is technically the largest C-joint accessory yet made. | ||
Latest revision as of 20:11, 11 May 2022
The C joint is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple 3 mm bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the Revenge of the Fallen/N.E.S.T. Global Alliance series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's gold-packaging Transformers line and Generations, the C joint has seen much more widespread use.
The system has been given the internal nickname "Miyake joint" by TakaraTomy employees, named after its designer Tomoya Miyake,<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref> who first used it on the Revenge of the Fallen Recon Ironhide toy.
Toys with C joints
[edit]Revenge of the Fallen
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3
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- Brawn (bars only)
- Brakedown (bars only - bottom of his hands)
- Recon Ironhide
- Scattorshot (bars only - his guns)
- Skystalker
}}
Transformers (2010)
[edit]{{ #if: {{#ifexpr: 3 }}
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3
|
- Breacher
- Fallback (bars only)
- Firetrap (bars only - his guns)
- Flak (bars only - his guns)
- Solar Storm Grappel (bars only)
- Hailstorm / Mindset (bars only)
- Hubcap (bars only - his exhaust pipes)
- Special Ops Jazz
- Lugnut (bars only)
- Perceptor (bars only)
- Oil Pan (bars only)
- Optimus Prime (bars only)
- Demolitions Rumble
- Sea Spray (bars only - his rungs)
- Sidearm Sideswipe (bars only)
- Sunspot
- Terradive
- Tomahawk (Four bars- two on his tail and the guns on his wings)
- Turbo Tracks
- Windcharger (bars only)
- Wreck-Gar
}}
Generations
[edit]{{ #if: {{#ifexpr: 3 }}
|
3
|
- Darkmount / Skullgrin
- Sergeant Kup
- Scourge
- Thunderwing / Sky Shadow (bars only - his guns)
- Wheeljack
- Junkheap
}}
United
[edit]This section lists only those molds or retools that have no Western release, molds released in the West retain their functionality when released in Japan.
{{ #if: {{#ifexpr: 3 }}
|
3
|
}}
Dark of the Moon
[edit]{{ #if: {{#ifexpr: 3 }}
|
3
|
- Bumblebee (bars only - his arms)
- Crankcase (bars only - his upper arms/door panels)
- Laserbeak (bars only - guns)
- Megatron (bars only - hips/doors, exhaust pipes, rung)
- Deluxe class Optimus Prime (bars only)
- Jetwing Optimus Prime (Jetwing jet pack and Gatling Cannons only)
- Ratchet (bars only - arms)
- Roadbuster (bars only - his forearms and missile pods)
- Shockwave (bars only)
- Space Case
}}
Human Alliance
[edit]{{ #if: {{#ifexpr: 3 }}
|
3
|
- Backfire
- Drag Strip
- Icepick
- Reverb
- Sandstorm/Half-Track
- Tailpipe (bars only - on his legs/motorcycle back)
- Thunderhead/Crosshairs
- Whirl
}}
Cyberverse
[edit]
- All Cyberverse figures have at least one hand that is a clip. All Cyberverse weapon platforms/playsets have the usual smattering of clips and bars. They also all have a uniform placement of clips and bars on the sides of one of their modes, allowing them to connect to one another.
Titans Return
[edit]{{ #if: {{#ifexpr: 1 }}
|
1
|
}}
The Last Knight
[edit]{{ #if: {{#ifexpr: 1 }}
|
1
|
- Sqweeks (Bars only, all 4 handlebars are compatible)
}}
Tiny Turbo Changers
[edit]
Almost all of the Tiny Turbo Changers feature 3 mm fists for their robot modes. This means that they can cling to any bot or weapon with 3 mm bars, making for either some hilariously over-armed tiny robots... or some comedy antics with the larger bots.
Notes
[edit]- LEGO has long made use of 3 mm bars and clips as well. In practice, LEGO's standard is just the slightest bit larger than Hasbro's, so LEGO clips with even a little wear will only loosely grip C joint bars. Still, LEGO minifigures can cling to your 3 mm-bar-equipped Transformers, and their vehicles (assuming they incorporate the appropriate parts) can mount 3 mm clip weapons.
- Naturally, this means that similar-construction Kre-O parts should work as well.
- While C joints per se were not developed until the Revenge of the Fallen toyline, many previously made toys have similarly sized bars that can be used to attach C joint weaponry. At least one example dates to the earliest days of the franchise. The Action Master weapons' handles are all C joint-compatible pegs, though the general lack of clips on the robots themselves means this compatibility has somewhat limited practical application for modern figures. Still, you could give the Action Master partners some extra weaponry.
- ...but be careful about it. As with 5 mm posts, a bar that appears to be 3 mm may not quite be 3 mm. TFWiki.net will not be held responsible if you break the clips on your weapons trying to force them onto bars that are too big.
- Because clips are attached to the right side of the Ark, it is technically the largest C-joint accessory yet made.
References
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