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===Fucking up the characters categories===
* [[User talk:Interrobang/Archive 0|Archive 0]]
Cut it out!  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:40, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
* [[User talk:Interrobang/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[User talk:Interrobang/Archive 2|Archive 2]]


===Megatron (BW)===
==Things to get a bot to do==
Hey, Interrobang, you've written the entire ''Beast Wars'' fiction section in present tense.  It should be in past tense. Couldja please fix it?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:04, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
* Replace all instances of <nowiki>{{m-}}</nowiki> with —.


===Remove redirects===
* [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 (cartoon)]] → [[The Transformers (cartoon)]]
* [[Countdown to Extinction (episode)|Countdown to Extinction]] → [[Countdown to Extinction (episode)]]
* [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1 (toyline)]] →‎ [[The Transformers (toyline)]]
* [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]] →‎ [[Matrix of Leadership]]
* [[Marvel (disambiguation)|Marvel]] →‎ [[Marvel Comics]]
* [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)#Transformers: Zone|Zone]] →‎ [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)#Transformers: Zone|Zone (franchise)]]
* [[Space bridge|Space Bridge]] →‎ [[Space bridge]]


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==Things to do by hand==
===Fix links===
* [[More than Meets the Eye (disambiguation)|More than Meets the Eye]]


Sorry if I wasn't aware of this, but has there been a discussion about making a "''series'' Character" category and putting all the characters into it?
==Dross==
Also, the Classics category does not belong in the Generation 1 category. The Classics Mini-cons aren't from G1, nor is Leo Prime. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
''"The extent of what I can gather from Google translate."''<br>
Google-translating what, exactly? I see brief mentions of it in the J-Wiki article for ''BWII'' (specifically, in the paragraphs on BigMos and Autostinger), but if you found some other source, I can take a look at it and see if there's anything else to be gleaned.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:47, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
:[http://xeel.aikotoba.jp/storage/bw2/bw2n01.html#%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BB%E3%82%AF%E3%83%88%E3%83%AD%E3%83%B3]. Many thanks! Can you also glean anything about Planet [[Trius]] (トリアス) from that same site? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:07, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
::Okay, that took less time than I thought once I looked at the page.


:Every new iteration of G1 has added unique characters. In DreamwaveG1, we got [[Fallen|the Fallen]], [[Gravitas]] and the other ancients, [[Backbite]] and his assassin team, etc.  The IDW comics have given us a bunch of new humans and even a [[Calabi-Yau|named spaceship]].  ''Classics'' is likewise a G1 continuity because of its core cast and overall theme. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]]
::Dross is mentioned all of once. During the Dross Crusades, Autostinger saved Bigmos's life.


::I ''think'' I read in some report out of BotCon that the Classics Mini-Cons are going to be considered part of a G1 universe. Can anyone confirm that? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:58, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
::Trius comes up twice in the Jointron entry. The Jointrons went out into space to protect Trius on orders from Autobot HQ, but en route, their ship broke down (possibly owing to a problem with their helmsmanship), and they reluctantly crash-landed on Gaia. The summary also notes this may have left Trius more peaceful than if they'd gone there, but doesn't mention it otherwise.
:::Whoo, thanks. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:31, 6 September 2011 (EDT)


::: I can. Forrest Lee stated the Classics Mini-Cons ARE, fictionally, part of the Classics "neo-G1" universe. Which I wholeheartedly approve of. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
==Blind as a bat in battle==
I can't check the episodes to figure out which right now, but I ''know'' that the Metrodome subs also used this translation in, like, ''one'' instance, late in the series, which would suggest to me that for that one time at least, that's actually what he was saying. I wonder if Shout have extrapolated backwards and used it for all the instances of nonsense-speak in the name of consistency. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
:Interesting. I'll see if I can get the Metrodome version to check, or see if the TV-Nihon translation has that. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:18, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
::Doing a quick YouTube check (just before bed!), I can say that he actually ''does'' say "Komori" as part of his chant, and that's a word that I ''do'' know the meaning of. So... maybe that IS what he's always saying. (The two TV Nihon episodes I've just sampled don't translate it.) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:20, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Hrm, then I guess I'll comment out those points for the time being, at least till we get a Japanese speaker to confirm. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:25, 4 August 2011 (EDT)


::::My first reaction was, "WHAT fiction?"  But then it occurred to me that the ''Classics'' line has already seeped into the IDW-G1 universe via Jetfire. How much crossover can happen before we consider them one and the same (well, as one-and-the-same as, say, DW-Energon and the Energon toys)?
==Almanac stuff==
:::::Doubt that'll happen.  At the fan club magazine panel, [[Forest Lee]] said that next year's fan club newsletter comic storyline was probably going to use the Classics in a post-Marvel Comics universe. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:35, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Dude, you are a tireless workhorse and I salute your efforts. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 23:50, 9 August 2011 (EDT)
:Thanks! All of those blank sections and red links were annoying me so much that I finally just brought the thing after putting it off for so long. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:54, 9 August 2011 (EDT)
::Any idea which of those planet pages is article 14.000? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 05:43, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
:::[[Giedi Prime]], I think. I aimed for that because it was Sorenson's screen name. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 05:45, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
::::Works for me! And thanks for dealing with all these TAAII planets. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 05:48, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::I must also give you praise for all your work, since you saved ''me'' from having to do it. Also, I think the "dim. research" note on [[Skriixos V]] doesn't actually mean dim but is short for "dimensional research", referencing the Skriix and their being from another dimension. --[[User:Apoc|Apoc]] 06:58, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
::::::Should all those planets from external properties (Gor, etc) be in the External Properties category? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 07:30, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Now that I think about it, yeah. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 07:32, 10 August 2011 (EDT)


::::::Serious?  Oh, rock ''on.'' - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 20:10, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
That said, are you SURE that all the throw-away companies that are just a name and a number need pages? They were just thrown in there as a joke and to make people in-the-know smile.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:57, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
:Uh, yeah. Really, I think that's all best folded into the ASAII reference pages. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:08, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
::This is the chaos you have wrought, Jim! (Really, though, I don't see how it's that different from the 100+ "throw-away" planets and it's not like having those articles impede anything. I also think it's neat to learn that those companies exist in Transformers fiction somewhere.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:10, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Ah, well, a planet that ONLY showed up on that map, and nowhere else in fiction, might not deserve its own page either, now that you mention it. Maybe with an exception for planets that have some other connection to the fiction, like [[Yautja]] since we already have a page for the [[Predator (alien)|Predator]].--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:16, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
:::At most I think they'd deserve a redirect page with a "Companies" and "Planets" Categories so they show UP in said Categories, but they should redirect to the ASAII reference section. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:17, 11 August 2011 (EDT)


::::::Actually, I wonder how that'll square with their apparent plan to keep annually releasing the clear Energon combiner figures.  Maybe those characters will jump out of the UT dimension and into the Marvel comic universe? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Hehehehe... I just did something nice for you that you won't find out about for a few months... hehehe... --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 23:21, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
:Aw, you made my day. Looking forward to whatever you have planning. :D [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:11, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
::Did you spot it?--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:16, 19 November 2011 (EST)
:::Heh, under Cheetor's vehicle mode, right? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:24, 19 November 2011 (EST)
::::Bingo. Thanks for all your hard work.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:26, 19 November 2011 (EST)
:::::Aw, it isn't anything, but you're welcome. Thanks for the shout out! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:29, 19 November 2011 (EST)


:::::::They will. Skyfall and Landquake will be taking center stage, and presumably combiner #3 will have ended up in G1-land, #4 in post-movie-land, etc. Also, Unicron is now a focal point of the comic too, so there you go. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
==Great Dome==
Does the Shout! Factory edition of "Four Warriors Come out of the Sky" name the Autobot base on Cybertron "Autobot Base" or "Iacon"? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:59, 22 August 2011 (EDT)
:The subtitle for the place name? "Autobot Headquarters". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:10, 22 August 2011 (EDT)
::Yep, that one. Thanks! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:14, 22 August 2011 (EDT)


RE: [[Packrat]], [[Fractyl]], etc.:  At what point does "speculation" become unsuitable for this Wiki when we're dealing with a storyline that can't be explained without severe untangling and hole-filling?  Is it a matter of phrasing or italicizing?  The bits you deleted weren't random, Neale-style "apocrypha." Those characters are on the outskirts of a major time-travel storyline that ends with an entire timeline being negated, canonically.  And there are good reasons to think that their BW adventures went "poof" along with the rest.  (See Derik and my discussion on [[Vice Grip]].) No, it's not a NECESSARY conclusion, nor did I suggest that it was.  But it's a strong enough possibility that I think we do the Wiki a disservice if it's not mentioned. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 08:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
==AAII==
:Yeah, but you could have said it in under 20 words.  '''And''' your time-altering explanation doesnt' fit the sequence of events. '''And'''... this is really more appropriate as a general entry on the main 3h Fiction page, nothign that their 'extra characters' fit badly aroudn the edges of the universe. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:49, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Are you sure you have not misspelled "Emirate 'Xarron' Spacebridge Nexus" and "Zetca-" (the latter over at "Serpentor") and could you improve "Quartex (region)"? It's an ugly and confusing page right now. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 03:28, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
:Those are spelled as such in the AAII. I'll go off and fix Quartex. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:33, 23 August 2011 (EDT)


The french version of firefox is not that helpfull on that matter. Sorry, I'll try to be more carefuul.
==My apology.==
I apologize for attempting to be a part of this wiki community and attempting to add my meager contribution.


==Recent==
Shall log off for the last time shortly.
Sorry, I think I accidentally picked that up from whoever's line I edited on the Floro page. I'll go catch them all.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:35, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


==Re:Bulkhead edit==
[[User:Prime Dood477|Prime Dood477]] 07:28, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
"J'wan"? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 07:10, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


=="Reverted on general principle"==
==Micron Densetsu titles==
The guy's being obnoxious, but his edit has merit.  I think he's just a little too young.  I undid your edit in the process of trying to clean up the matter. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 07:49, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
You realize there are English parts of the Japanese episode titles for the series, right? All of which are lower case, and not all of which line up with the actual dub titles?


== Keywords ==
[https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/MicronDensetsuTitle.jpg Example]


Please don't orphan pages by deleting sections you find aesthetically displeasing.
--[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 11:08, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
:The only one that doesn't match (aside from parsing variations) is "First Encounter". That aside, they're only providing the English titles to a Japanese audience; I don't consider them part of the actual Japanese title and the Japanese sources I've seen don't. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:32, 31 August 2011 (EDT)


If you want to remove those sections then, ''at minimum'', it falls to you to to link those orphaned articles up. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:21, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
==Japanese Beast Era screencaps==
We have a lot of BWII and BWN screencaps of which the episode is unknown. Since you are sorting out the Japanese BE stuff, do you think you could get them properly sourced? Most are currently in the "Hastak images" category, but I could get them to the "images from unknown sources" category to save you the time finding them in the other category. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:43, 9 September 2011 (EDT)
:Sure, I'll see what I can identify. Toss them into unknown sources or list them here. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:51, 9 September 2011 (EDT)


==Manga question==
I want to write an article for the ''Go-Bots'' manga later today and I have two questions. The stories are all very simple and can often be described in one or two sentences. Yet, there's a lot of stories. Should I put up a a page for each one or put them all in one article? Also, the manga issues aren't numbered and some appear to have been released at the same time. Should I order them alphabetically or would there be a better option? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:56, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
:My gut instinct would be to give an article to every installment; it's easier to give space for featured characters and the infobox that way, instead of clumping them all into one page. Also easier to storylink. In regards to order, I think release date and then alphabetical is fine, if they have no other identifying marks. Were the toys numbered? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:03, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
::Seems they were according to the Go-Bots fansite. Ordering by those numbers seems a much better idea, so I'll go with that. Thanks. Oh, and perhaps to prevent pages being put up on the wrong "title", what do you think of translating "かつやく" as "service"? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 03:13, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
:::I need to know the context of the word before I can give any suggestions. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:21, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Oh, they're on the fansite. Yeah, "service" seems the most appropriate. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:27, 22 September 2011 (EDT)


== Personal attacks in edit summaries ==
==Beast manga==
So do you have access to the Beast Wars II and Neo manga? Because that's the sort of thing I'd be interested in! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:07, 22 September 2011 (EDT)


"Are you sure you don't have Asperger's?"
:Yes. I'm planning to scan it. It will probably come out bad, but we'll see. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:28, 22 September 2011 (EDT)


That was REALLY uncalled-for. --[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 23:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
::<nowiki>*</nowiki>flails arms* Whence did you acquire such a thing? What of Beast Wars Metals? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:38, 22 September 2011 (EDT)


==Comic article titles==
:::I bought the collected volumes from some guy in Japan on eBay. They were pretty expensive, but eh. Unfortunately, BWM wasn't collected, so if I want it, I have to hunt down the individual Comic Bom Bom issues, which won't be easy. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:40, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
I wish you would wait on moving a bunch of comic issue articles until we come to a desicion about what scheme to go with site-wide. It's being [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal#Comic Issues Naming Convention|slowly discussed on the community portal]].  I agree that we should be consistent, but I do not like the parantheses scheme you are moving things to. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


==Beast Wars timeline==
::::Oh, I think I saw them on eBay at one point and thought about them myself! Good on yer! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:43, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
Hello, I've start a article [[Beast Era timeline|here]] by using some temporary file I write before, maybe you can help with that! ;D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 04:47, 05 November 2007 (UTC)


== Graphy ==
:Hello, I'd like to thanks for those ''Beast Wars'' manga as they are much more useful than my memory<!--(because I am unable to reach those magazine now.)-->! ;-D --'''[[User:TX55|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 15:07, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
::You're welcome! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:08, 25 September 2011 (EDT)


Why would you capitalize the name of a dinosaur type?  We don't capitalize the names of other animals in mid-sentence.  (Okay, except weird ones that involve people's names, like a Thompson's gazelle, but still...)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
==Double the pages==
[[Deep space receiving tower|Mine from March.]] Choose which one to keep you may. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:10, 4 October 2011 (EDT)


==Popular alt-modes==
==Dubbing vs localization==
All the recent episodes have that because they were all added by the same newbie anon. It's a foreign dub, I checked it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:52, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes, but he was following precedent set elsewhere. "Localization" is used because not all foreign versions are dubs, like the sub-only English releases of Japanese series. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:49, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
::So do we use "localization" as the new standard now? Or is this a case by case basis? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:25, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
:::It's certainly easier having a consistent "Foreign localization" section. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:44, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
::::I'll keep that in mind next time I tackle one of those, thanks! --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:46, 11 October 2011 (EDT)


Yeah, I honestly made that edit (Overkill) expecting it would get reverted. For some reason I considered that the best method by which to point out what seemed to be the confusion. The anon seemed unaware of the Classics version from the customizing class, so his stance seemed to be based solely around the tape body. So I thought I'd point out the confusion.
==Bot==
Bot to fix redirects is working again.<br/>
This took 5 hours. (Apparently we added more login security in response to Assaulthead.)<br/>
...I assume you wish to queue some up. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:26, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
:Hurm. Well, there's a lot. All of the "Transformers: " moves, for instance. [https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Log/move] If you want me to compile a more specific list, let me know. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:34, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
::It's been down for over a year. Should I just set it on whatever has the most redirects? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:24, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Sure, I guess. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:25, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
::::Hrm. Apparently the redirects page doesn't list them by how many links there are to a redirect.
::::Anyway, I've got about 1,100 linkfixes queued up. (As always, it won't deign to do all of them.) This should take about 24 hours for the 'bot to chew through. I figure you can '''redirect''' me after that's done. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:48, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::I've got ~3000 redirect-changes queued up RE: the list you left on my talk page.
:::::One thing the 'bot DOESN'T do is fix links passed as parameters in templates. This didn't USED to be a big deal, but TFWiki.net has seriously increased its usage of templates in the last 2 years or so. I'm going ot take a whack at it tonight and see if I can make it do this.
:::::(The concern is that if a non-link value in a complex template, e.g. 'idw' were the same as a link being fixed, it could screw things up. But we've kept such template values decapitalized and all of these links are capitalized, so I'm hopeful this can be done without mangling pages.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:37, 30 October 2011 (EDT)


Maybe we *should* specify bodies on the list, though, given this confusion? It may or may not be practical, and it also may or may not even be warranted.  This is only the first time there's been a mistake, to my knowledge, so I'm not really going to push the issue hard. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 18:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
==Wholesale removing shit again.==
:I dunno. We could do that if it came down to it, but so far, it's just one anon. If it's a recurring problem with other people, that's an option. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 18:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Is this actually something that was decided upon in some talk page somewhere, or are you merely being yourself again? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:25, 26 October 2011 (EDT)
:Sorry to upset you with the removal of a redundant template from ten or so lists? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:50, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
::Well, yes, those tags WERE redundant, but only after you created new sections that meant the same thing as the tags you were removing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:13, 30 October 2011 (EDT)
:::There were plenty of "Cancelled" sections already on some pages, though. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:20, 30 October 2011 (EDT)


==Quotes==
==SG Side Burn photo==
Uh, not to make all your work seem useless, but wouldn't it just be easier to have the quotation marks appear within the template and get it down with all at once rather than do it one article at a time? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:42, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
I made you do that, didn't I? --[[Special:Contributions/218.208.97.226|218.208.97.226]] 15:42, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
:I think I've noted him inserting italics formatting here and there, so the quotes aren't 100% universal to the needs of the template.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 01:13, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:...Maybe. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:43, 1 November 2011 (EDT)


==Category changes==
==Deathbringer==
Hey, Interrobang -- I wish you wouldn't make such sweeping category changes without posting a notice to the relevant talk page first, just to double-check things.  For example, the discussion in [[Category talk:Siblings]] sort of went in a "let's have a general category for all relatives" direction without quite reaching consensus. Now that the siblings category is empty, it will be a lot more work to fill up a "has relatives" category if/when we make one, because we'll have to "rediscover" all the sibling articles.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 21:59, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Since you're on an IDW kick, can you separate out the IDW Deathbringer from the Marvel one? They've never struck me as having any similarities beyond sharing a name, but I don't own all of ''Devastation''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 02:22, 13 December 2011 (EST)
:Well, the discussion had been lingering around for ''19 months''. I assumed nobody particularly cared about the thing anymore. If you need the sibling articles, you can just look in my "User contributions". My editing sprees are mostly unbroken. [[User:Interrobang|—‽]] 00:44, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:Now that you bring it up, I agree. Spotlight: Sixshot has a pretty specific description of IDW Deathbringer ("bio-mech bred for combat in the harshest of environments") that doesn't line up with Marvel Deathbringer. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:26, 13 December 2011 (EST)
::Yes, it had stagnated for a very long time. However, even a brief glance at that discussion shows that support was not there for a straight-up "delete". --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
::Hrm. Now that I think about it, does the Deathbringer of Cybertronian myth warrant its own page as well, a la [[Megatron (myth)|Megatron]]? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 03:24, 13 December 2011 (EST)
:::I don't really agree with the existence of Megatron (myth), since it's obviously a prescient reference to BW Megatron. Ditto for myth Deathbringer. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:54, 13 December 2011 (EST)
::::Would you say Megatron (myth) should probably be merged with Megatronus? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:33, 16 December 2011 (EST)
:::::I'm of the opinion that it referred specifically to Megatron (BW). Megatron naming himself after himself was the joke. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:37, 16 December 2011 (EST)


== your fucked up signature ==
==All Roads Lead to Skynet==
I have become convinced you are not human, but instead a Sufficiently Advanced Artificial Intelligence who is now spidering Transformers lore and cross-indexing it like Google for some as-yet-unknown sinister reason.


Could you change your signature so it actually includes your user name? I like being able to see who made a comment without having to see the destination of the link.
Good work. -Derik 03:37, 16 December 2011 (EST)


Either way, I shall now call you "The Editor Formerly Known As Interrobang" --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
==Image==
:No problem! [[User:Interrobang|—&quot;‽&quot; is an Interrobang]] 01:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
why do you delete all my images[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 16:43, 13 March 2012 (EDT)
:I didn't delete them. That decision is ultimately up to an administrator. I simply tagged them, because they are not useful to the Wiki. We do not host images we do not need. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:11, 13 March 2012 (EDT)


:way to not know an interrobang when you see one.  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
ah ok i thought scalpel's image could have been useful--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 17:18, 13 March 2012 (EDT)


::The Japanese must never learn of this. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
excuse me can you delete this file
:::It ''does'' have the feeling of something the Japanese would latch on to without realizing it's barely known in English, doesn't it? (Though strange Hydra kept removing interrobangs when I put them in his article titles...) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:12, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:Please stop uploading images. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:48, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
I like "‽," it's all clever 'n stuff.  Does it work on macs?  A lot of extended character-set stuff doesn't.  (You could use <span title="Interrobang"> for a mouseover- but I suspect some users just want it to be readable.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:12, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


It does work on a Mac but that does not take away from the total uselessness of the name... it didn't work for Prince and it doesn't work here either  [[User:Gspro15198|Gspro15198]] 23:25, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
yes sorry, I committed a terrible mistake
--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 16:51, 15 March 2012 (EDT)


==Boxart scans/DVD covers==
==Wrong argument==
Perhaps you should have read the Rewind/Eject discussion before taking a shot a me. The discussion I had with Walky was about poor quality scans that were jagged and badly cut out, and eventually steve-o agreed. As for the DVD covers I plan on uploading images of every DVD release of Transformers from the various distributors over time. Also, I left Amazon's white space intact because '''wide''' images are easier to format the page to than '''tall''' images. Tall images, without enough text, either cuts into other sections or create massive whitespace. I have uploaded alot of images, so I know from experience how they affect formatting, you know. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
The point of the Cat:IDW... issues was to line all the categories for MTMTE/RiD up so that they were together in [[Special:Categories]], rather than scattering them. Since there are covers for DWMTMTE/etc, there DOES need to be a [[:Category:IDW More than Meets the Eye covers]]. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 13:48, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
:An alphabetic list of categories in some obscure corner of the Wiki is not really something to consider when editing. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:09, 20 March 2012 (EDT)


==Brawn lives==
==I'm sorry==
Interro, you deleted legitimate content from the [[Brawn]] article without an edit summary ''and'' marked the edit as minor.[http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Brawn&diff=127964&oldid=127854]  Please be more careful.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
I was trying to do my part to edit like you said.
:Yes, and I appreciate your enthusiasm, but you shouldn't edit for the sake of editing. What we need is expansion of actual content, such as toy write-ups and biographies, not reaching and excessive notes. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:08, 28 March 2012 (EDT)


==I've got an idea.==
Don't remove shit. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:37, 15 April 2012 (EDT)
:I'm not sure how reverting an anon edit and asking for confirmation warrants this treatment, especially of somebody who has added an assload of Japanese names himself. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:57, 15 April 2012 (EDT)
:: Don't revert anon edits just because they're anon edits. That should not be your default action. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:19, 15 April 2012 (EDT)
:::Yeah, I think you're just looking for a reason to yell at me. I didn't trust an edit for a variety of reasons and asked for confirmation or a source, as is pretty standard on any wiki. I got one. End of story. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:53, 15 April 2012 (EDT)
::::The standard procedure on a wiki is not to remove FIRST and THEN ask for confirmation or source. It's the other way around, dude. Don't do this again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:47, 15 April 2012 (EDT)


==Home is Where the Spark Is==
You do realize that other contributors ask me all the time why the hell you still get to post here because of your attitude and because of the stuff we often have to clean up from the widespread changes you decide to make on your own whims. And I shrug and say, "Hey, look, sometimes he does stuff we don't have to clean up. Often, yes, he's a pain. But he often does good things, so he's still worth keeping around, okay?" Protip: By starting edit wars with me, you are really pushing the one guy who stands in the way between you and a ban. It is not smart. It is very not smart. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:49, 17 April 2012 (EDT)
Hi. I'm putting the slumber party stuff back in that you took out. It's childish and emasculating, but it's canon.--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 23:45, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:But I wasn't reverting anything you did? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:00, 17 April 2012 (EDT)
:Just what are you talking about? —Interrobang 23:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::No big deal. Just an edit. If it wasn't you, I apologize. Again, no big deal.--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 23:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


==J-category work==
==Convoy==
I see you're doing a lot of category work, including some Japanese guys. I was going to send my bot to change all the Japan-only's to Japanese-origin's. Will that interfere with your subgroup stuff? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:26, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey, if you're taking screencaps of Convoy, any chance you could get a picture of one of the cars they use for the MECH page? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:43, 24 April 2012 (EDT)
:Sure. I can't get a good 3/4 shot, so I've taken a couple of screencaps so you can pick which one you like best. [http://i40.tinypic.com/i2uj69.jpg] [http://i43.tinypic.com/2r4r8u1.jpg] [http://i40.tinypic.com/2vjv67d.jpg] [http://i41.tinypic.com/2dkygkn.jpg] [http://i41.tinypic.com/2dc8t8o.jpg] (Apologies for the terrible artifacing in some caps. Convoy suffers a lot from it.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:57, 24 April 2012 (EDT)
::Thanks! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:34, 24 April 2012 (EDT)


==Comic issue re-arrangement==
==Emirate==
When did we decide to change the comic book article format to be the same as the cartoon episode formats? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 00:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
That was a little uncalled for, wasn't it? Fair enough if it had been an addition to the page itself, but when the word's being used in such an odd fashion, and Furman has a bit of a record for malapropisms ('indigent' for 'indigenous'), it seemed reasonable to raise the idea on the talk page just to see whether anyone thought there might be mileage in it. Reverting the talk page seems rather an overzealous response. -- [[User:Tribimat|Tribimat]] 20:58, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
:Never mind, it doesn't matter. I'm wondering now how much evidence there is for it being a title at all, as opposed to just being the first element in a two-word name a la Optimus Prime. If it's a name rather than a title, it's a little less odd. -- [[User:Tribimat|Tribimat]] 21:52, 28 April 2012 (EDT)


==Deletion==
==Forign names==
That's not going to make him go away and you fucking know it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
If the Japanese/Italian/German/Floogan name for something is the same as the English name, DON'T FUCKING PUT IT IN THE FOREIGN NAMES LIST. The last thing we need is a long list on every page showing all the places UltraGenericBlast is called UltraGenericBlast. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:01, 4 May 2012 (EDT)
:Have to agree. He's having us delete the evidence he was here because he wants to try to sneak back in. He's not doing it very ''smartly'', but he's made plain what his intentions are.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 00:43, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
::Call it optimism for stupid people. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


See? Told you so. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
==Marvel US/UK split point==
 
Hi there! I saw you added the part about US/UK split happening around the US issue “the price of life”, and while I generally agree, don’t you think the actual split point is the issue “Back from the dead”? In this issue Prime is surprised that Megatron is alive, where in the UK continuity they just recently fought in the time wars.
== Generation One/1 ==
Anyway, happy to hear your opinion :)
 
[[User:Levyshahar|Levyshahar]] ([[User talk:Levyshahar|talk]]) 15:05, 10 October 2022 (EDT)
"One" has been used by Hasbro in tons of G1 product - Reissues and Heroes of Cybertron most prominently. It appears to be Hasbro's preferred way of spelling it out. --[[User:Spectre|Spectre]] 00:55, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:You're not likely to get a response from Interrobang, as he hasn't been active on here in ten years. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 18:55, 10 October 2022 (EDT)
 
::Seems like you’re right. Thanks [[User:Levyshahar|Levyshahar]] ([[User talk:Levyshahar|talk]]) 02:38, 11 October 2022 (EDT)
== I blanked your Mom's talk page last night. ==
 
I blanked it all night long. --[[User:Slander|Slander]] 17:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 
== JBW Power Surge ==
 
空中山脈大爆破 literally translates as "air mountain range big explosion," but for flow, I'd translate it as "The Sky-Mountains Explode".--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 06:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 
==Italicized punctuation==
I don't know why that cheeses you off so much, but there's actually a discussion going on about it over in [[Help talk:Style guide#Italics and Punctuation|Help talk:Style guide]].  I think JW's option #1 looks a lot better, but I hadn't weighed in because I didn't think it was important enough to define for the Wiki.  I guess if people really care about it, then we should. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 
==Stubs==
If you're going to make incomplete pages, please mark them as stubs so they show up in the list. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:46, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 
==ROC==
...did we decide to move ROC things from (G1) to (ROC) between when I got to bed in the morning and when I got up?  When did we decide to do it this way?  We had a discussion about this long ago.  I didn't think it had been decided amongst us to be repealed, but I guess I could have missed the two-hour window in which it was discussed and revoked.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:Er? I didn't move anything from "(G1)" to "(ROC)". What I did move was "(Battlestars)" (which Sipher did) to "(ROC)" and various "(Autobot)"s or "(Decepticon)"s to "(G1)" because they're the only characters with that name in the G1 line. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:20, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
::Isn't Return of Convoy still part of G1? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm talking in terms of toylines. ''Return of Convoy'' is as much the same toyline as G1 as G2 is. Or ''Energon'' to ''Armada''. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
::::As far as I've heard, all G1 means is "everything before G2." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:34, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Then what do we call the original toyline and cartoon series? Because they aren't the same thing as the Japanese sequel series. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::Okay, I see your point now. Still, having, for example, [[Bombshock (G1)]] and [[Bombshock (ROC)]] doesn't seem quite right to me, as they're both considered to be G1 characters. I'm not sure what was wrong with using (Autobot) and (Decepticon). --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::The ROC guy is a G1 character in the loose sense that he's in the same continuity family. I don't see what the big issue is, as we have both the disambig template and the continuity note to clarify matters for the reader. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:06, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 
=="Revert out-universeness"==
Why did you revert my change to Decepticon Super Scramble?  Do you think that this article should omit where this character comes from?  What does "out-universeness" mean?  (I'm a little new here; I'd appreciate you filling me in.)--[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 18:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind, FortMax let me know.  Why isn't this term in any of the help pages? (or did I miss it?)--[[User:GrantB|GrantB]] 03:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 
== Formatted Japanese Text ==
 
I won't argue with your de-italicizing of the Japanese text on [[Shūta Gō]]'s page, as readability is always good.  Just FYI, the italicized Japanese looked just fine on my screen.  It's probably a function of whatever Japanese fonts are available through one's interface.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 08:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 
== [[AllSpark]] ==
 
#It originally went just to the "movie thing"
#Wait... the "movie thing"'s two words, and I just went through and removed all one-word links to the "movie thing" anyway.
#You're petitioning to have [[All Spark|All Spark (Movie)]] moved back to [[All Spark]], and the dimension's at [[Allspark]] (one word, no cap "S"). Since that leaves the "Animated thing" as the only "AllSpark" (one word, cap "S"), shouldn't that get the redirect all to itself? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 13:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
:No, because "AllSpark" has been used to refer to the All Spark. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 
== Universe ==
 
Hey, in the future, can you please name the toy section heading 'Universe (2008)' even if the character never had a toy in the 2003 Universe line? Thanks --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:23, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 
==Preview Bastard?==
{{preview bastard}}{{unsigned|SanityorMadness}}
:On what planet does Interrobang deserve this notice?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 17:42, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 
Well, in the past DAY (all of these are consecutive edits - i.e., no-one else edits in-between):
*[[Dirge (G1)‎]] - three edits in three minutes (including two edits in a minute)
*[[Acid Storm]] - three edits in four minutes
*[[Rainmaker]] - three edits in four minutes
*[[Autotransforming‎]] - four edits in three minutes (including two edits in a minute)
*[[Soundwave (Animated)]] - two edits in a minute
*[[Jazz (Animated)‎]] - three edits in two minutes
*[[Ironhide (Animated)‎]] - two edits in a minute
*[[News Bot]] - two edits in three minutes
*[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)]] - three edits in three minutes (including two edits in a minute)
I think that adds up to "this planet" - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:16, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
:We usually reserve this template for ''problem'' users who make edits along the line of ten revisions to add a sentence. Not two edits within a minute. You're kinda presuming things putting a warning template on a guy who does a lot of good maintenance work on this wiki.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 20:33, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I had it bunged on my talk page after a 2×2 edit on [[Prime (rank)]] (meaning I edited two sections, with two edits for each section, over a total of seven minutes, with one tagged as minor). I was taking my lead from that - I've certainly never done anything near "ten revisions to add a sentence" - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 20:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
:::EVERYBODY goofs up sometimes, you, me, them, everybody!  We're all only human.  As Rosi said, the PB tag is just for new folks who ''clearly'' don't realize what the Preview button is for or that they're causing problems by not using it. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
::::In that case, I get it. As I said, I was going by the... rapidity... by which it was used on my user talk, and it seems like *checks* JW "goofed" there. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 21:19, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::I wouldn't have given that to you, either. I don't have a problem with a few edits to spruce up the content in ways you didn't notice before. That's what I do. Like Rosicrucian said, it's mostly for anonymous editors (usually with terrible English) who need a ridiculous amount of edits to add something that gets removed, anyway. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 21:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
:[http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&hideminor=1&limit=500 I have a solution for you.] [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:16, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 
== "Garbage In, Garbage Out"—Ellipses ==
 
Just FYI, the typography I learned for ellipses is that they do not take a space before or after when placed in mid-sentence to represent a pause in speech.  Is there a style guide that indicates otherwise?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 03:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:Shamefully, I can't really find anything about this case. My best guess is that this is just an informal rule I picked up in school and either form is fine. Regardless, I won't bother with the space anymore until I find something concrete on this. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::Sounds like a plan.  Wish all discussions here were as amicable and readily settled.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 03:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::You both suck!  Also, your moms!  They also suck!  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Aaah, my sense of normalcy is restored.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 03:51, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Spoiler warning ==
 
I get that the info I added may have annoyed editors, but the warning seems to claim that I did so without a spoiler warning, which I did, and the info is both officially released by Hasbro, and verifiable (I did not add anything of text, only images, which are easy enough to verify without understanding the language). I understand the wanting to wait until North America airs it, which is why I only added on the talk page, but I don't think I actually violated the reasoning the Spoiler policy page gives for that stipulation. So basically, I'm not sure I understand why I was jumped on and given warnings.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 
==Shattered Glass redirects==
[[Category talk:Shattered Glass characters|This]] is where a discussion was held on the whole Shattered Glass/Timelines thing was held. Granted, somebody seriously jumped the gun, but there was some discussion. Would that be better suited for the community portal? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 18:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 
== Tatakai ==
 
<nowiki>*snuggle*</nowiki>  You made my ugly edits less ugly.  :~) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 
==Try reading the articles, please. The Hasbro Roadblock TOY is a different character==
 
No need to get snarky about it. So I miss understood. All is now made clear and doesn't require snark...ironically, I'm starting to get snarky so I'll shut up now
 
Small problem. Does this mean we have to create an entirely seperate article just for the Roadblock toy?[[User:GWolfv2]] 19.32 June 14th
: AN ARTICLE FOR THE ROADBLOCK TOY'S CHARACTER EXISTS.  THIS IS WHAT THE ARGUMENT YOU ARE HAVING RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::I....didn't realise I was having an argument...[[User:GWolfv2]] 14th June 2008
 
== Import screw-up FYI. ==
 
The screwed up files that are TOTALLY nonsensical like "Qqgjipp1fp70z9aeh36gevvhuvuc1mm.jpg‎" are being flagged for deletion by Deceptitran.  The ones I see you flagging- with partially-nonsense-partially-english names are not.
 
If you have a list of fucky filenames, I can add them to Deceptitra's queue.  (It doesn't even have to be a clean list, i copy-and pasted out of the log to get mine and just used a regular expression to grab out the names.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:25, 20 March 2009 (EDT)
:It should be easy to sort out the fucked names; they all start with either "2008" or "2007". Maybe "2006". They're all holdovers from the uploading after the move from Wikia. A lot of those were deleted, but some still remained. I'm not sure how to go around making a list, since it'd be massive and made up of thousands of entries, since those images are so dispersed. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:37, 20 March 2009 (EDT)
::Basically, they're all Old Versions. When you upload an image on top of an old one, the old file gets renamed to YearMonthDayHourMinuteSecond!(oldname) on the server (I forget if it's the time it was uploaded, or the time you upload the replacement, but I suspect the former). The script that uploaded them couldn't distinguish between the old versions and the current ones, and so uploaded the old ones as if they WERE current versions. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 20:02, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
 
Do they all have an exclamation point in the middle of their name?
I see about 200 for 2007, and 360 for 2006.
None for 2008 though, which makes me think that my 2007 list is incomplete (or there'd be more on it.)  I'll flag the ones I can find. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:01, 20 March 2009 (EDT)
:Yeah, they all have exclamation points after the string of numbers. There should be some 2008s, they're the ones I saw most often. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 04:15, 20 March 2009 (EDT)
::Thanks for the heads-up man, in addition to the 700 or so I flagged last night, there's more than 8000 I flagged today.  (I found a better search method.)  Never would've found 'em if I didn't know what to look for. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:58, 20 March 2009 (EDT)
:::''Eight thousand''? I feel sorry for the administrator who wants to clean up the backlog... [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:01, 21 March 2009 (EDT)
::::Typo-- 800. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:14, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
:::::...and decreasing.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 20:15, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
::::::Gone now.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 21:31, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Or... not. See [[Special:Uncategorizedimages]], where there's at least a couple of hundred of them left. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 21:45, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
 
Those are a bit harder to do in one big swoop. I was sticking to cleaning out the speedy deletion queue, as there's nothing lost if I just delete the whole dang category's contents. That category you've pointed out is a mixed bag, as it has more than a few legitimate images in it. Likely good to hold off on those until Derik has sicced the bot on 'em, unless you feel like tagging them by hand. As it is I ended up deleting around 800 of 'em from the speedy cat, so I'm kind of pooped. Even categorized it's still pretty much hand-done, just mindlessly so with sixteen tabs open at a time.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 22:00, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
:Should also be noted that the ones that you're spotting that are ***px-filename.ext are thumbnails generated by the wiki software, and then snagged by our mass import. Those should be fairly easy fodder for Deceptitran tagging them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 22:30, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
::I know what they are. Hell, I tagged them all as speedies once already
::As for Deceptitran, I don't think it's looking - and there aren'T that many of them, certainly not even a fraction of thee number of YearMonthDayHourMinSec!filename.ext stuff, so I doubt it's worth Derik's time to code a filter. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 22:51, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
 
== Cracking work! ==
 
The G1 episode pages are looking awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:46, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
:Hey, can I suggest doing [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]] next, since it's current? :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:27, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
::Sure! It's slightly less work than G1, since I don't have to do the Japanese name stuff. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 04:31, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
 
==Removal of "|series2=" in RiD episodes==
Which is my question, that is. Considering A/E/C has their respective ML/SL/GF "|series2=" in their episode templates, so why remove Car Robots from RiD? :? --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 07:40, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
:Uh, why do they? They should only be used when the numbering or episode order is different. Otherwise is just redundant. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:30, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
::If only for posterity's sake. ;D Then again, I'm kinda stubborn on details like that. =P --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:42, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
 
==Little harsh?==
:[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Image:Laserbeak_Animated.jpg&curid=37437&diff=280431&oldid=280067&rcid=99373 Cool down, dude.] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:21, 25 April 2009 (EDT)
::My shift key sticks, and my attention was focused on the television while typing that edit summary, so I didn't notice the CAPSLOCK till it was too late and it comes across as more harsh than intended. I apologize. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 21:37, 25 April 2009 (EDT)
 
== Witwicky ==
 
Sorry for the inconvenience. I thought "Witwicky" could use a little disambig-uation. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:28, 26 April 2009 (EDT)
:The problem with that (and frankly, 99% of the disambiguation templates we maintain) is that nobody will go to those pages looking for "Witwicky". Because if they were looking for it, they'd be typing "Witwicky" in the search box in the first place. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:31, 26 April 2009 (EDT)
::All their pages should probably link to [[Witwicky]] somewhere. I don't have a better idea where. The page is, more a less, a big disambiguation page. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:38, 26 April 2009 (EDT)
:::Three options I can think of: 1) make a link out of the last part of their names; 2) say they're "part of the [[Witwicky]] family"; 3) make a "see also" section. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:41, 26 April 2009 (EDT)
::::1) sounds the best even if it would look a little ugly to have half their name linked. I would put it in the italicized continuity note rather than their bolded first instance of their name. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:13, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
:::::That actually works out pretty nicely. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:00, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
 
== Featured article template ==
What is up with moving featured article tempates onto talk pages? They really don't belong there. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 23:03, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
:May I suggest rather than arbitrarily stripping the template from all articles and adding it to their talkpages, you have a gander at [[Template talk:Featured|this discussion]]?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 23:03, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
 
== Matrix Quest, etc ==
 
I don't think this or the other original movie issues should be an IDW Generation 1 issue.  That's sorta reserved for the ones withing their unique continuity. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 23:55, 13 May 2009 (EDT)
 
== Armada (Panini comics) category ==
 
Hey, I noted you changed the category on Armada (Panini comics) from <nowiki>[[Category:Armada]] to [[Category:Armada| Armada (Panini comic)]]</nowiki>.  Since I've never seen that before, I'm just curious as to where in the wiki that information is used, and what benefit it has?
:Using a space as the first character puts the article into the front of the category. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 09:31, 16 May 2009 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 06:17, 18 January 2025

Things to get a bot to do

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  • Replace all instances of {{m-}} with —.

Remove redirects

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Things to do by hand

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Dross

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"The extent of what I can gather from Google translate."
Google-translating what, exactly? I see brief mentions of it in the J-Wiki article for BWII (specifically, in the paragraphs on BigMos and Autostinger), but if you found some other source, I can take a look at it and see if there's anything else to be gleaned.--Apcog 16:47, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

[1]. Many thanks! Can you also glean anything about Planet Trius (トリアス) from that same site? —Interrobang 17:07, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
Okay, that took less time than I thought once I looked at the page.
Dross is mentioned all of once. During the Dross Crusades, Autostinger saved Bigmos's life.
Trius comes up twice in the Jointron entry. The Jointrons went out into space to protect Trius on orders from Autobot HQ, but en route, their ship broke down (possibly owing to a problem with their helmsmanship), and they reluctantly crash-landed on Gaia. The summary also notes this may have left Trius more peaceful than if they'd gone there, but doesn't mention it otherwise.
Whoo, thanks. —Interrobang 18:31, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

Blind as a bat in battle

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I can't check the episodes to figure out which right now, but I know that the Metrodome subs also used this translation in, like, one instance, late in the series, which would suggest to me that for that one time at least, that's actually what he was saying. I wonder if Shout have extrapolated backwards and used it for all the instances of nonsense-speak in the name of consistency. - Chris McFeely 20:14, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

Interesting. I'll see if I can get the Metrodome version to check, or see if the TV-Nihon translation has that. —Interrobang 20:18, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
Doing a quick YouTube check (just before bed!), I can say that he actually does say "Komori" as part of his chant, and that's a word that I do know the meaning of. So... maybe that IS what he's always saying. (The two TV Nihon episodes I've just sampled don't translate it.) - Chris McFeely 20:20, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
Hrm, then I guess I'll comment out those points for the time being, at least till we get a Japanese speaker to confirm. —Interrobang 20:25, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

Almanac stuff

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Dude, you are a tireless workhorse and I salute your efforts. --Jimsorenson 23:50, 9 August 2011 (EDT)

Thanks! All of those blank sections and red links were annoying me so much that I finally just brought the thing after putting it off for so long. —Interrobang 23:54, 9 August 2011 (EDT)
Any idea which of those planet pages is article 14.000? Geewunling 05:43, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
Giedi Prime, I think. I aimed for that because it was Sorenson's screen name. —Interrobang 05:45, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
Works for me! And thanks for dealing with all these TAAII planets. Geewunling 05:48, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
I must also give you praise for all your work, since you saved me from having to do it. Also, I think the "dim. research" note on Skriixos V doesn't actually mean dim but is short for "dimensional research", referencing the Skriix and their being from another dimension. --Apoc 06:58, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
Should all those planets from external properties (Gor, etc) be in the External Properties category? --Monzo 07:30, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
Now that I think about it, yeah. —Interrobang 07:32, 10 August 2011 (EDT)

That said, are you SURE that all the throw-away companies that are just a name and a number need pages? They were just thrown in there as a joke and to make people in-the-know smile.--Jimsorenson 13:57, 11 August 2011 (EDT)

Uh, yeah. Really, I think that's all best folded into the ASAII reference pages. --M Sipher 14:08, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
This is the chaos you have wrought, Jim! (Really, though, I don't see how it's that different from the 100+ "throw-away" planets and it's not like having those articles impede anything. I also think it's neat to learn that those companies exist in Transformers fiction somewhere.) —Interrobang 14:10, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
Ah, well, a planet that ONLY showed up on that map, and nowhere else in fiction, might not deserve its own page either, now that you mention it. Maybe with an exception for planets that have some other connection to the fiction, like Yautja since we already have a page for the Predator.--Jimsorenson 14:16, 11 August 2011 (EDT)
At most I think they'd deserve a redirect page with a "Companies" and "Planets" Categories so they show UP in said Categories, but they should redirect to the ASAII reference section. --M Sipher 14:17, 11 August 2011 (EDT)

Hehehehe... I just did something nice for you that you won't find out about for a few months... hehehe... --Jimsorenson 23:21, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

Aw, you made my day. Looking forward to whatever you have planning. :D —Interrobang 00:11, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
Did you spot it?--Jimsorenson 10:16, 19 November 2011 (EST)
Heh, under Cheetor's vehicle mode, right? —Interrobang 10:24, 19 November 2011 (EST)
Bingo. Thanks for all your hard work.--Jimsorenson 10:26, 19 November 2011 (EST)
Aw, it isn't anything, but you're welcome. Thanks for the shout out! —Interrobang 10:29, 19 November 2011 (EST)

Great Dome

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Does the Shout! Factory edition of "Four Warriors Come out of the Sky" name the Autobot base on Cybertron "Autobot Base" or "Iacon"? Geewunling 01:59, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

The subtitle for the place name? "Autobot Headquarters". —Interrobang 02:10, 22 August 2011 (EDT)
Yep, that one. Thanks! Geewunling 02:14, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

AAII

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Are you sure you have not misspelled "Emirate 'Xarron' Spacebridge Nexus" and "Zetca-" (the latter over at "Serpentor") and could you improve "Quartex (region)"? It's an ugly and confusing page right now. Geewunling 03:28, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

Those are spelled as such in the AAII. I'll go off and fix Quartex. —Interrobang 03:33, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

My apology.

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I apologize for attempting to be a part of this wiki community and attempting to add my meager contribution.

Shall log off for the last time shortly.

Prime Dood477 07:28, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Micron Densetsu titles

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You realize there are English parts of the Japanese episode titles for the series, right? All of which are lower case, and not all of which line up with the actual dub titles?

Example

--Monzo 11:08, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

The only one that doesn't match (aside from parsing variations) is "First Encounter". That aside, they're only providing the English titles to a Japanese audience; I don't consider them part of the actual Japanese title and the Japanese sources I've seen don't. —Interrobang 11:32, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

Japanese Beast Era screencaps

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We have a lot of BWII and BWN screencaps of which the episode is unknown. Since you are sorting out the Japanese BE stuff, do you think you could get them properly sourced? Most are currently in the "Hastak images" category, but I could get them to the "images from unknown sources" category to save you the time finding them in the other category. Geewunling 02:43, 9 September 2011 (EDT)

Sure, I'll see what I can identify. Toss them into unknown sources or list them here. —Interrobang 02:51, 9 September 2011 (EDT)

Manga question

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I want to write an article for the Go-Bots manga later today and I have two questions. The stories are all very simple and can often be described in one or two sentences. Yet, there's a lot of stories. Should I put up a a page for each one or put them all in one article? Also, the manga issues aren't numbered and some appear to have been released at the same time. Should I order them alphabetically or would there be a better option? Geewunling 02:56, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

My gut instinct would be to give an article to every installment; it's easier to give space for featured characters and the infobox that way, instead of clumping them all into one page. Also easier to storylink. In regards to order, I think release date and then alphabetical is fine, if they have no other identifying marks. Were the toys numbered? —Interrobang 03:03, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
Seems they were according to the Go-Bots fansite. Ordering by those numbers seems a much better idea, so I'll go with that. Thanks. Oh, and perhaps to prevent pages being put up on the wrong "title", what do you think of translating "かつやく" as "service"? Geewunling 03:13, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
I need to know the context of the word before I can give any suggestions. —Interrobang 03:21, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
Oh, they're on the fansite. Yeah, "service" seems the most appropriate. —Interrobang 03:27, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

Beast manga

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So do you have access to the Beast Wars II and Neo manga? Because that's the sort of thing I'd be interested in! - Chris McFeely 12:07, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

Yes. I'm planning to scan it. It will probably come out bad, but we'll see. —Interrobang 12:28, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
*flails arms* Whence did you acquire such a thing? What of Beast Wars Metals? - Chris McFeely 12:38, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
I bought the collected volumes from some guy in Japan on eBay. They were pretty expensive, but eh. Unfortunately, BWM wasn't collected, so if I want it, I have to hunt down the individual Comic Bom Bom issues, which won't be easy. —Interrobang 12:40, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
Oh, I think I saw them on eBay at one point and thought about them myself! Good on yer! - Chris McFeely 12:43, 22 September 2011 (EDT)
Hello, I'd like to thanks for those Beast Wars manga as they are much more useful than my memory! ;-D --TX55TALK 15:07, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
You're welcome! —Interrobang 15:08, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

Double the pages

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Mine from March. Choose which one to keep you may. Geewunling 01:10, 4 October 2011 (EDT)

Dubbing vs localization

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All the recent episodes have that because they were all added by the same newbie anon. It's a foreign dub, I checked it. --Detour 15:52, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

Yes, but he was following precedent set elsewhere. "Localization" is used because not all foreign versions are dubs, like the sub-only English releases of Japanese series. —Interrobang 16:49, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
So do we use "localization" as the new standard now? Or is this a case by case basis? --Detour 18:25, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
It's certainly easier having a consistent "Foreign localization" section. —Interrobang 18:44, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
I'll keep that in mind next time I tackle one of those, thanks! --Detour 18:46, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

Bot

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Bot to fix redirects is working again.
This took 5 hours. (Apparently we added more login security in response to Assaulthead.)
...I assume you wish to queue some up. -Derik 19:26, 20 October 2011 (EDT)

Hurm. Well, there's a lot. All of the "Transformers: " moves, for instance. [2] If you want me to compile a more specific list, let me know. —Interrobang 19:34, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
It's been down for over a year. Should I just set it on whatever has the most redirects? -Derik 20:24, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
Sure, I guess. —Interrobang 20:25, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
Hrm. Apparently the redirects page doesn't list them by how many links there are to a redirect.
Anyway, I've got about 1,100 linkfixes queued up. (As always, it won't deign to do all of them.) This should take about 24 hours for the 'bot to chew through. I figure you can redirect me after that's done. -Derik 21:48, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
I've got ~3000 redirect-changes queued up RE: the list you left on my talk page.
One thing the 'bot DOESN'T do is fix links passed as parameters in templates. This didn't USED to be a big deal, but TFWiki.net has seriously increased its usage of templates in the last 2 years or so. I'm going ot take a whack at it tonight and see if I can make it do this.
(The concern is that if a non-link value in a complex template, e.g. 'idw' were the same as a link being fixed, it could screw things up. But we've kept such template values decapitalized and all of these links are capitalized, so I'm hopeful this can be done without mangling pages.) -Derik 12:37, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

Wholesale removing shit again.

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Is this actually something that was decided upon in some talk page somewhere, or are you merely being yourself again? --ItsWalky 20:25, 26 October 2011 (EDT)

Sorry to upset you with the removal of a redundant template from ten or so lists? —Interrobang 00:50, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
Well, yes, those tags WERE redundant, but only after you created new sections that meant the same thing as the tags you were removing. --ItsWalky 12:13, 30 October 2011 (EDT)
There were plenty of "Cancelled" sections already on some pages, though. —Interrobang 12:20, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

SG Side Burn photo

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I made you do that, didn't I? --218.208.97.226 15:42, 1 November 2011 (EDT)

...Maybe. —Interrobang 15:43, 1 November 2011 (EDT)

Deathbringer

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Since you're on an IDW kick, can you separate out the IDW Deathbringer from the Marvel one? They've never struck me as having any similarities beyond sharing a name, but I don't own all of Devastation. --Monzo 02:22, 13 December 2011 (EST)

Now that you bring it up, I agree. Spotlight: Sixshot has a pretty specific description of IDW Deathbringer ("bio-mech bred for combat in the harshest of environments") that doesn't line up with Marvel Deathbringer. —Interrobang 02:26, 13 December 2011 (EST)
Hrm. Now that I think about it, does the Deathbringer of Cybertronian myth warrant its own page as well, a la Megatron? --Monzo 03:24, 13 December 2011 (EST)
I don't really agree with the existence of Megatron (myth), since it's obviously a prescient reference to BW Megatron. Ditto for myth Deathbringer. —Interrobang 10:54, 13 December 2011 (EST)
Would you say Megatron (myth) should probably be merged with Megatronus? -Derik 13:33, 16 December 2011 (EST)
I'm of the opinion that it referred specifically to Megatron (BW). Megatron naming himself after himself was the joke. —Interrobang 13:37, 16 December 2011 (EST)

All Roads Lead to Skynet

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I have become convinced you are not human, but instead a Sufficiently Advanced Artificial Intelligence who is now spidering Transformers lore and cross-indexing it like Google for some as-yet-unknown sinister reason.

Good work. -Derik 03:37, 16 December 2011 (EST)

Image

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why do you delete all my imagesShockwave1704 16:43, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

I didn't delete them. That decision is ultimately up to an administrator. I simply tagged them, because they are not useful to the Wiki. We do not host images we do not need. —Interrobang 17:11, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

ah ok i thought scalpel's image could have been useful--Shockwave1704 17:18, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

excuse me can you delete this file

Please stop uploading images. —Interrobang 16:48, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

yes sorry, I committed a terrible mistake --Shockwave1704 16:51, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

Wrong argument

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The point of the Cat:IDW... issues was to line all the categories for MTMTE/RiD up so that they were together in Special:Categories, rather than scattering them. Since there are covers for DWMTMTE/etc, there DOES need to be a Category:IDW More than Meets the Eye covers. - Mammalian Verisimilitude 13:48, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

An alphabetic list of categories in some obscure corner of the Wiki is not really something to consider when editing. —Interrobang 14:09, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

I'm sorry

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I was trying to do my part to edit like you said.

Yes, and I appreciate your enthusiasm, but you shouldn't edit for the sake of editing. What we need is expansion of actual content, such as toy write-ups and biographies, not reaching and excessive notes. —Interrobang 02:08, 28 March 2012 (EDT)

I've got an idea.

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Don't remove shit. --ItsWalky 15:37, 15 April 2012 (EDT)

I'm not sure how reverting an anon edit and asking for confirmation warrants this treatment, especially of somebody who has added an assload of Japanese names himself. —Interrobang 16:57, 15 April 2012 (EDT)
Don't revert anon edits just because they're anon edits. That should not be your default action. --ItsWalky 17:19, 15 April 2012 (EDT)
Yeah, I think you're just looking for a reason to yell at me. I didn't trust an edit for a variety of reasons and asked for confirmation or a source, as is pretty standard on any wiki. I got one. End of story. —Interrobang 17:53, 15 April 2012 (EDT)
The standard procedure on a wiki is not to remove FIRST and THEN ask for confirmation or source. It's the other way around, dude. Don't do this again. --ItsWalky 19:47, 15 April 2012 (EDT)

You do realize that other contributors ask me all the time why the hell you still get to post here because of your attitude and because of the stuff we often have to clean up from the widespread changes you decide to make on your own whims. And I shrug and say, "Hey, look, sometimes he does stuff we don't have to clean up. Often, yes, he's a pain. But he often does good things, so he's still worth keeping around, okay?" Protip: By starting edit wars with me, you are really pushing the one guy who stands in the way between you and a ban. It is not smart. It is very not smart. --ItsWalky 19:49, 17 April 2012 (EDT)

But I wasn't reverting anything you did? —Interrobang 20:00, 17 April 2012 (EDT)

Convoy

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Hey, if you're taking screencaps of Convoy, any chance you could get a picture of one of the cars they use for the MECH page? --abates 00:43, 24 April 2012 (EDT)

Sure. I can't get a good 3/4 shot, so I've taken a couple of screencaps so you can pick which one you like best. [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] (Apologies for the terrible artifacing in some caps. Convoy suffers a lot from it.) —Interrobang 00:57, 24 April 2012 (EDT)
Thanks! --abates 01:34, 24 April 2012 (EDT)

Emirate

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That was a little uncalled for, wasn't it? Fair enough if it had been an addition to the page itself, but when the word's being used in such an odd fashion, and Furman has a bit of a record for malapropisms ('indigent' for 'indigenous'), it seemed reasonable to raise the idea on the talk page just to see whether anyone thought there might be mileage in it. Reverting the talk page seems rather an overzealous response. -- Tribimat 20:58, 28 April 2012 (EDT)

Never mind, it doesn't matter. I'm wondering now how much evidence there is for it being a title at all, as opposed to just being the first element in a two-word name a la Optimus Prime. If it's a name rather than a title, it's a little less odd. -- Tribimat 21:52, 28 April 2012 (EDT)

Forign names

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If the Japanese/Italian/German/Floogan name for something is the same as the English name, DON'T FUCKING PUT IT IN THE FOREIGN NAMES LIST. The last thing we need is a long list on every page showing all the places UltraGenericBlast is called UltraGenericBlast. --FortMax 00:01, 4 May 2012 (EDT)

Marvel US/UK split point

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Hi there! I saw you added the part about US/UK split happening around the US issue “the price of life”, and while I generally agree, don’t you think the actual split point is the issue “Back from the dead”? In this issue Prime is surprised that Megatron is alive, where in the UK continuity they just recently fought in the time wars. Anyway, happy to hear your opinion :) Levyshahar (talk) 15:05, 10 October 2022 (EDT)

You're not likely to get a response from Interrobang, as he hasn't been active on here in ten years. --Sabrblade (talk) 18:55, 10 October 2022 (EDT)
Seems like you’re right. Thanks Levyshahar (talk) 02:38, 11 October 2022 (EDT)