Talk:Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)

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"Explicable discrepancies"?

Do we really need a section that's basically TFWiki users attempting to Marvel No-Prize the movie's slip-ups?--Rosicrucian^Talk 01:35, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

NOPE. --ItsWalky (talk) 01:38, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

We've had this for the other movies, for common stuff like "Why did Astrotrain need to jettison weight?" Not defending the current content, but it isn't unprecedented. -- Repowers (talk) 08:19, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

Cyclonus?

So, did Cyclonus appeared in this movie? Xenotime (talk) 05:40, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

No. Escargon (talk) 08:54, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

Some KSI Prototypes were based on his concept robot mode though.Observedhalo (talk) 03:39, 5 July 2014 (EDT)

No he was the code name for Galvatron.Speedzone7

Foreign names

[1] [2] [3] I found these as evidence off-hand. There are other, more direct examples, but after trawling through eight thousand of Walky's contribs and two thousand of Sipher's, I could no longer be arsed to keep looking. Additionally, as I mentioned, those names are clutter. The film is called either Age of Extinction or Lost Age--or a direct translation thereof--in all but a couple of languages. Ergo, we don't care about the French, Italian, Spanish, etc., titles, just the English one and those that are different from both it and from any other title. Pirateblue (talk) 16:35, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

All episode articles show foreign names regardless of whether they're direct translations or not. Movie articles aren't any different. Mimi (talk) 17:13, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

Yes, cartoon episodes do show all foreign names. However, episodes are not the same thing as movies; episode pages note original airdate and discrepancies form the original. Movie pages do not, and should not, note this stuff; that belongs in Other editions. The bits that are notable, however, are the names that aren't "Age of Extinction" or "Lost Age": for example, the fact that in Mandarin, it's "Extinct Rebirth" or that it has no subtitle whatsoever in Argentina. Having no less than fourteen word-for-word translations of "Age of Extinction" in one big blob prevents the reader from seeing the interesting stuff. Pirateblue (talk) 18:14, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

"Lost Age" is the same title as "Age of Extinction"? --abates (talk) 18:43, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

No, it is not; there are, however, fourteen other names in that list that are. Pirateblue (talk) 20:01, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

Synopsis

Wait, was that originally copied and pasted from Wikipedia? --abates (talk) 17:10, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

Everything besides the Psittacosaurus scene that I added to the beginning is from wikipedia, I think. I changed parts of it, but other than that, it seems to matches Wikipedia's. Escargon (talk) 17:17, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

The copied parts kinda need to be rewritten in that case! --abates (talk) 18:03, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

"_______ Decepticon" generics

Wouldn't it better suit them to be called "_______ Vehicon"?--Carrion (talk) 21:48, 29 June 2014 (EDT)

Well, Vehicon wouldn't really be correct either, since the only non-Kre-O AOE things to officially be named Vehicons are these toy-only guys, but I agree that 'Decepticon' isn't really appropriate either. Maybe '_____ robot'? Jalaguy (talk) 10:30, 30 June 2014 (EDT)

In the movie, the manmade Transformers are referred to be three designations: "KSI's newest civilian prototype robots" (by a KSI staff member), "the Prototypes" (by one of the main human cast members), and "Brothers" (by Galvatron). If they're to be referred to as anything in a general sense (meaning both before and after the film's climax), I'd say just "Prototypes" would be the safest term. --Sabrblade (talk) 22:34, 3 July 2014 (EDT)

Paleontology weeps

Why do we need this? The Dinobots clearly weren't made by the grenade blast, so there's no reason to presume they're anything but generically based on the fossils seen by the Creators -- their size, lack of organic carapace a la Alice, twin heads, and very non-standard spikes-every-gotdang-where should make it clear they're intended to be closer to the Animated Dinobots than direct scanning.

Plus, isn't that how virtually every series has done the Dinobots anyway?KrytenKoro (talk) 09:48, 30 June 2014 (EDT)

It's talking about a sequence at the beginning with real dinosaurs, although quite frankly, it's one of the most accurate depictions of dinosaurs I've seen in cinema. Escargon (talk) 10:42, 30 June 2014 (EDT)

But do we still need that last bit about the Dinobots not looking like dinosaurs? I mean, they're space robots and as has been said already, there isn't any reason to not presume that they were only generically based on ancient fossils instead of some direct scan. LordTacos (talk) 20:31, 4 July 2014 (EDT)

You'd think Strafe would "be the biggest offender" by NOT BEING A FRIGGIN' DINOSAUR. --ItsWalky (talk) 21:31, 4 July 2014 (EDT)

Done.Observedhalo (talk) 03:50, 5 July 2014 (EDT)

Still objecting to the herbivore line and the aesthetics tidbit. There is no reason to believe that the Dinobots were created from actual dinosaurs (size, two-headed Pteranodon, etc.); Alice's unskinned form is just as much a human as these guys are dinosaurs. Even if they were, the Seeds appear to add frills to the things they explode on, as seen with the dug-up dinosaur shells and wossname who dies at the beginning. Finally, virtually all of the Dinobots we've seen, barring the IDW guys and Beast Wars, were created from scratch based-on dinosaurs rather than scanning them (and even those were scanning fossils, not live specimens).KrytenKoro (talk) 11:07, 8 July 2014 (EDT)

Which other Michael Bay film began with the extinction of the dinosaurs? I assumed it was Armageddon, but its Wikipedia article doesn't mention it. --abates (talk) 17:46, 14 July 2014 (EDT)

Yep, Armageddon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy2QyiedFV0 -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:12, 14 July 2014 (EDT)

"Four years" of "five years"

Didn't Attinger or some other character in the film mention "five", not "four" years? CAJH (talk) 15:36, 7 July 2014 (EDT)

Is anyone reading this? I meant that even though it was previously reported to be that the fourth movie takes palve four years after the third one, in the movie it is said that the Chicago's destruction happened FIVE years ago. CAJH (talk) 11:03, 10 July 2014 (EDT)

Yeah, I noticed that too, wasn't sure if I misheard at the time. In-fiction information trumps promotional copy, I suppose. Jalaguy (talk) 11:36, 10 July 2014 (EDT)

Picture Captions

Seeing how the DOTM page all has Star Trek quotes in its captions, should AOE use Game of Thrones quotes? We already have "Winter Is Coming / Brace yourself." --Dragonzzilla (talk) 17:11, 10 July 2014 (EDT)

Might be a good idea, we definitely need a caption theme or all of the new editors who joined due to AOE will be writing any old thing. --TheSpartanD (talk) 18:34, 10 July 2014 (EDT)

I think we decided on Jurassic Park: The Lost World quotes in the AllSpark thread. Escargon (talk) 18:35, 10 July 2014 (EDT)

Well, something dinosaur-y at least. The Land Before Time was also mooted. Jalaguy (talk) 18:39, 10 July 2014 (EDT)

Prototypes or Decepticons

Seeing as there is no description of what Galvatron's army is in the film, what should we call them in the film articles? --TheSpartanD (talk) 09:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT) We can call then traxes,bosses and two heads.Speedzone7

Heads

I do not understand why Sentinel Prime's head and Megatron's head are listed as part of the "Main Cast." Those aren't characters, those are props. Okay, maybe I can see it with Megatron given the story, but Sentinel Prime's head is not part of the "Main Cast." Or part of the "cast" at all. --KilMichaelMcC (talk) 17:35, 20 July 2014 (EDT)

Because "the funny". Bioniclepluslotr (talk) 10:10, 8 August 2014 (EDT)

Captions

Ok, who came up with the image captions? They don't make any sense and aren't even funny. Bioniclepluslotr (talk) 10:10, 8 August 2014 (EDT)

More Images

A friend of mine recorded the film with a HD camera (or so I think) in the cinema. Besides the occasional Chinese subtitles showing, the video is pretty clear and can be used for screenshots. Should I use them to contribute to the wiki? Convoy (talk) 18:36, 27 August 2014 (EDT)

No, you should not. Camrips are illegal and the wiki does not use them. Jalaguy (talk) 06:39, 27 August 2014 (EDT)

Thanks. I understand. Convoy (talk) 18:43, 27 August 2014 (EDT)

Prototype error?

So throughout the film when the prototypes die they leak the green liquid bay seems to love, How did KSI get this? Surely they couldn't just salvage it from bits of Transformers. Even if they did what would the use be as they didn't have to function on their own. Since this didn't have much of an explanation should it be noted in errors? Dannydew (talk) 18:05, 30 August 2014 (EDT)

That's nothing like notable enough to be listed as an error. If they can harvest Transformium from dead Transformers, why not fluids? Jalaguy (talk) 18:15, 30 August 2014 (EDT)

True, what would the purpose be of it though? I think the prototypes had quite a few unthought things, like Two Heads, Now that was not consumer friendly. Dannydew (talk) 18:25, 30 August 2014 (EDT)

The prototypes are clearly not turning out as intended, since Joyce gripes about Galvatron turning out looking like Megatron instead of Optimus Prime. --abates (talk) 20:45, 30 August 2014 (EDT)

Sideswipe?

Sideswipes "Head and body" has been added to the cast, can anyone else confirm because I haven't seen anything like him in it. Dannydew (talk) 12:01, 11 September 2014 (EDT)

Yeah, I've removed that. I'm not trusting any 'you can totally see [something] in the background' claims until the film's out on disc. Jalaguy (talk) 12:09, 11 September 2014 (EDT)

Reunites scene + Trivia

Quick discussion, The Autobot Reunites error about Drift being on the cliff. I think we should just voice our opinions and come to a conclusion. I think it is possible that Drift just transformed to see where Optimus was. It's somewhat possible in the time between seeing him in his alt mode and them seeing him in his robot mode. What do you guys think

As a side note I think it may be worth adding a Trivia section just to put stuff in which wouldnt count as an error, Or we could move the notes section upwards. Dannydew (talk) 12:46, 18 September 2014 (EDT)

Reviving this - I read the sequence as the other Autobots drove to the rendezvous point, and then hung out on clifftops until Optimus arrived sometime later. --abates (talk) 05:27, 29 November 2014 (EST)

Misinformation campaign

I do not understand the "misinformation campagin" section. First, it mentions the lack of comic or novel tie-ins as if that's part of said campaign, which.... what? A lack of infornmation is not the same as misinformation. And then, it talks about differences between stuff in the trailers and the final cut of the film, a fairly common occurrence in movies, apparently considering this also to be part of a supposed misinformation campaign? Again.... what? --KilMichaelMcC (talk) 19:48, 6 October 2014 (EDT)

Unprotect

I think we're long past the need for this page to be protected. Saix (talk) 19:16, 11 July 2016 (EDT)

Reused footage

During the scene where Stinger and Galvatron are intercepting the Autobots, the drone/satellite footage of the freeway is obviously reused from Dark of the Moon (Just with the five Autobots instead of the Dreads). What's worse is that the drone/satellite from DOTM is of Washington DC, and the scene is based in the outskirts of Chicago. This doesn't make sense at all. Skywarp Prime (talk) 11:35, 8 July 2019 (EDT)Skywarp Prime

Missing kill cards

I am reaching out to anyone who could find the lucky person who obtained the "kill cards" featured in Transformers: The Auction by Profiles in History. People have been pondering about the identities of the Autobots and Decepticons who appear on those cards for a long time. To help out, we should attempt to do a movement, something like "#realeasethecemeterywindcards"-- NexusShard17 (talk) 17:19, 17 August 2021 (EDT)

Can anyone identify any of the cards seen in this picture? I can only make out Leadfoot and Roadbuster. I think the Twins are also present. -- NexusShard17 (talk) 11:01, 27 August 2021 (EDT)

This next was difficult to pinpoint, but I think the one between Roadbuster and Megatron is meant to be Igor. -- NexusShard17 (talk) 09:52, 28 August 2021 (EDT)

Ben Schwartz

So I brought this up in the Bumblebee (Movie) talk page a while back, but this video from the GameGrumps series revealed Ben Schwartz was one of the radio voices for Bumblebee in Age of Extinction. He explains that he was hired to come up with some of the radio dialogue for Bumblebee, he recorded lines that they would later in post-production to other clips but apparently, some of his voice is in the final cut. Energizier 01:42, 10 August 2023 (EDT)