MediaWiki talk:Community Portal/Damage Control Central

Archive 1

Wikia links

Is there no way to strip these out other than editing them out? Given that editing leaves them in the history, that doesn't seem desirable. - SanityOrMadness 08:47, 18 March 2009 (EDT)

The history doesn't matter as much, since the search engines don't index it, and people generally only look at it if they're editing. --203.97.2.142 15:40, 18 March 2009 (EDT)

Derik told me he was able to purge all the Wikia links from the Wikia database dump (some half a million of them) including all existing in revisions by editing the import script so they never got into TF Wiki's database, but since we reverted to an even-earlier version of Wikia's database... are we SURE the Wikia links in the history doesn't matter? I would rather be safe than sorry. --FFN 23:25, 18 March 2009 (EDT)

All history pages have a robots tag with "noindex, nofollow" set. That means that the search engines won't add those pages to their indexes and won't credit Wikia with the links from them. --abates 00:43, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

I have a list of all the non-Main pages in my sandbox. Derik just needs to feed it to Deceptitran, and let him loose. --FortMax 14:02, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Thousands of pages still have Wikia links, mostly the redirects and the talk pages but some of the other pages that may or may not have been fully restored yet. I decided to try to edit them out a few at a time, but it seems that this slow process will take forever (practically). Do you gentle-peeps have a bot that will rip them out or replace them automatically? Or, perhaps, will these pages soon be replaced by backups? C.V. Reynolds 07:38, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Oops! Seems that FortMax was several steps ahead of me, there. My hatred for the wikia has made me temporarily blind to some things. Make sure to catch the redirects if they show up on Google, too, as well as the image pages. C.V. Reynolds 07:42, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

One big zip

Would it be possible to have made available a big zip of the stuff recovered from Google's cache? I'm thinking it might come in handy. --abates 01:39, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Dealing with pages that haven't converted

It looks like some of the pages haven't been converted by the script. Am thinking that the best way to deal with them may be to hit "undo", slap a bookworm tag on the reverted page, and then we'll have a category with the pages which need reconverting. That way we're not leaving too many ugly pages on the Wiki. Does that sound like a feasible plan? --abates 07:23, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

I was like "WHAT THE HELL" during the transfer of pages. I noticed Weird Al's article is simply titled "\" like somebody saved the cache under the wrong filename. What? --FFN 08:04, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

The script - in titles, at least - choked partially at a single quotation mark (', sometimes used in place of an apostrophe) by sticking an escape character (the backslash) in front of it, and COMPLETELY at a double quotation mark ("), putting the backslash in then stopping. - SanityOrMadness 08:46, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Are Cyclonus (G1) and Scourge (G1) examples of "pages not converting"? Are they (and others like them) going to get automatically redone or should we do as Abates suggested? Thylacine 2000--74.73.131.210 10:04, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Those are good examples. Hence my earlier request for a zip file containing all of the downloaded cache files. We don't even know at this stage how many articles failed to convert, but if I have to redo every one of them manually, I will. --abates 14:42, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Looks like templates, faction symbols, and reference notes are all borked. Can we try that again, or are we looking at 8000 manual fixes? -- Repowers 10:31, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

It looks like User:Maintenance script is interpreting the < and > signs as literal ones we want on the page (converting them into &lt; and &gt;), rather than as markers for HTML tags. Thus why we've got huge messes of HTML on pages. --Andrusi 11:36, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, doing a find-and-replace in Notepad (and then adding in one </p> tag that had disappeared somehow) was enough to make Reggie Simmons at least look right. --Andrusi 11:40, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Could we get Deceptitran to go across the site converting them back to < and >? It'd help a lot, plus it'd make the broken pages look better until they're fixed. - Magnus Maximus 23:54, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

In the meantime, there's a lot of weird code appearing where there should be templates; Template:Comingsoontoy and Template:Picsneeded are two of the biggest offenders I've seen, as they make a mess on every page they appear on. Not to mention what was once Template:Factions, which was lost in the crash and has left a small amount of excess code at the top of many of our pages. --Martonimos 06:28, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Sitewide notice

Are we able to put up a small sitewide notice like the gun-to-head one on Wikia with a note re what's going on, so that when people browse in from search engines, they can get an idea of what's going on? --abates 14:51, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

What you want is MediaWiki:Sitenotice. The admins should be able to do that. -- SFH 16:46, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Things that are fully restored

• The Calendar now has 358 out of 365 days accounted for. I don't think we lost more than 2 pages total-- we never HAD all 365 days in the first place. 100% complete, no further work needed. -Derik 16:15, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

THAT is a relief. --Lonegamer78 00:29, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

• Category:Robots in Disguise characters all done. --abates 04:10, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Images

Most of the images uploaded since the date the wiki reverted to have been lost. Any way to recover these, the way we have the rest of the pages, or do we have to track them down and re-upload them ourselves? --Martonimos 16:23, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

They all exist on the server, even the thumbnails (as you can see if you look at the google cache of any page which was last cached pre-crash. And had images to start with, obviously) - MediaWiki just doesn't know they're there. Ultimately, they may need to be reuploaded, but they won't have been lost. - SanityOrMadness 16:54, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

I see. So we'll eventually import those the way we're importing everything else? --Martonimos 21:31, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Dividing up work

It was suggested on the AllSpark pages that if people do pages by category rather than alphabetically, since they'll share common templates. Category:Disambiguation pages have a fairly consistent structure, for instance. Perhaps if people "claim" sets of pages and make a note here when they do so? Cartoons could be split by season, comics split in 50 issue increments, etc. --abates 16:29, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

As another note that may help - templates which appear borked on the recovered cache pages may already exist from the previous good version of the page, so copying them from there might be easier. --abates 16:46, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

I'm not sure how I feel about that. On the one hand, it does have the advantage of consistency in how the pages need to be re-formatted.

On the other hand, it also means there's a chance of missing some pages only in obscure categories, or redundant work (since most pages are in more than one category).

I think if we do it by category, we need at least a few people willing to go through alphabetically as well checking things (which I'm currently doing). --Jeysie 16:55, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

I'm planning on doing all of the episode pages (MORE THAN SIX HUNDRED GRAAAAHHH) so they have consistent formatting. So, uh, you guys don't have to worry about them. —Interrobang 17:03, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

I was going to claim the RID episode pages, but if you're planning on doing them anyway, go ahead. I'll take the RID character pages. I think once we've done most of the pages by category, it'll just be a matter of using the search box to search for HTML fragments, but we'll see. --abates 17:34, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

New Editing Help Box

Is there any way one of the admins could take a little time to make up a new box with editing shortcuts? A list of common templates would be especially helpful to everyone, I think. --Jeysie 17:04, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

I agree, I don't know how to do certain things like the tiny faction symbol at the top of the character pages, or making series navigation boxes for cartoons or comics. --Crockalley 07:16, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Front page notice and browser caches

Jeysie, is there some reason why you changed the front page notice from asking people to help us with google caches to helping us clean up pages? From this page's very own Finish Summary, we've not finished with the google caches yet, as we evidently need:

0400-8599 - Needed

So are we done with caches or not?

Also, this question was largely ignored by everybody, but some fans of the wiki had offered to help out with their browser caches. This presumably means their caches are more up-to-date than most of the pages people have uploaded. What should I tell them to do? --FFN 17:50, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

I had thought we already saved and uploaded all of the Main article cache pages we could? I know we didn't save all of the Talk pages yet, but I'd personally rather have any editors just coming in set to work on getting our existing important articles cleaned up instead of making a concentrated effort to worry about the Talk pages. If I was wrong, you can change it back, though. --Jeysie 17:54, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

"0400-8599 - Needed"

#Finish Summary = Huh? Not what I'm seeing. - SanityOrMadness 17:59, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

The 0400-8599 are for talk pages, which are obviously a lower priority, but still part of our whole "character." I believe either Derik's or Suki's scripts also went through to grab those as well so they may be partially covered, but manual grabbing would be nice. Bluestreak7 18:26, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Thank you. Now, does anybody have an answer to my second question? I feel bad just telling people to keep "holding onto those browser caches". --FFN 18:31, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Oh, almost forgot. Have we uploaded all the pages we saved yet? I noticed our Derrick J. Wyatt article is from May 2008. Our google cache is from Feb 26, 2009. --FFN 18:46, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

The cache version got uploaded as "Derrick J". --abates 19:33, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Oddly enough, Optimus Prime (RID), Optimus Primal and Optimus Minor, none of which have any odd characters in the name, have been updated. Gah! --abates 22:41, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

ROTF Devastator article

Looks pretty bad. Does anyone wanna clean it up or should I? Godziboy1993 18:18, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Fixed! --abates 19:14, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Accounts

Hi, I asked this on the Facebook page but no-one responded. Do I need to create a new account, or will our old accounts eventually be restored? This is User:MistaTee by the way.--68.98.163.92 19:56, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

I say go ahead and create a new one. When I created one using my old user name, it even went and associated my User and Talk pages with my account, so I didn't lose anything. -- Semysane 20:29, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, it totally remembers who we are; it's just being coy. I tried to re-register with a new password, and it told me I needed to use the old password instead. Be aware, though: Your re-created User page and its Talk page will both have the Wikia-link at the bottom, so you'll need to trim those. Also, my Talk didn't have all the latest conversations, so I needed to go to Google Cache for that. - Jackpot 01:39, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Not all of us, only those of us who were around before the reset date. The site doesn't remember a thing about me. --Martonimos 06:26, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Identifying Templates

I think we need a spot where people can help other people out by, well, identifying templates.

Like right now I'm staring at the 1984 page trying to figure out whether the nav at the top was hand-coded or is supposed to be a template. --Jeysie 22:56, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

That was fairly obviously a template to look at. A glance at That Other Place showed it was Template:Yearofthe, which I "stole" back. - SanityOrMadness 23:10, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Ah, there we go. I had that template in my saved cache pages, and thought the title looked promising, but... there was no info on the cache page, and the template didn't exist here, so... eheh, I was stumped. Thanks! --Jeysie 23:30, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

I know the infoboxes and some others won't work because of the variable fields, but can we maybe set Deceptitran to restore the static templates, like the (empty) stubs, comingsoontoy, noname etc. where they're always the same no matter what page they're on? It should just be a simple find/replace code function. - Magnus Maximus 23:59, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

The year pages are so undeveloped. I feel like they haven't quite found their purpose. (Which is probably why we didn't have a 2009 page even up until last week.) -Derik 23:14, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Do we have an episode of comicissue template AT ALL right now?

Episode, yes. Comic, no. - Magnus Maximus 00:25, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

My advice... just go ahead and take the chance to update everything to the comicstory template, and wait for someone to get a chance to restore it. (It exists, it's just sorta... bleh at the moment.)

Here's the code:

{{Comicstory|
|title=
|seriesissue=
|prev=
|next=
|seriesissue2=
|prev2=
|next2=
|image=
|caption=
|publisher=
|date=
|coverdate=
|script=
|pencils=
|inks=
|colors=
|letters=
|editor=
|continuity=
}}

Everything between "coverdate" and "continuity" should be changed to match the credits style in the book itself. --Jeysie 01:07, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

The comic template is Template:Comicstory, for those unaware. —Interrobang 01:23, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

I thought I knew most of the templates, but I just discovered imbedding .ogg files is done using Template:listen. Category:Templates is useful to have bookmarked. :) --abates 04:05, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Does anyone remember what the syntax for the Wookiepedia template was? (Looks like it was too new to get Google cache saved.) --Jeysie 04:51, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Also, can anyone remember what all the right parameters are for the series part of the Episode template? I'm trying to restore a Victory episode page, and I can't get the series name to show up right. --Jeysie 06:57, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Unrecovered pages

Is there a comprehensive list of pages that didn't get updated by the script? I just bumped into Armada Overload's page by chance, and knew because I'd worked on it that it was out of date, but... that's about the worst possible way to find such pages. -- Repowers 23:20, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

Hrm, did it still have the Wikia spam at the bottom? -Derik 00:15, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Because they don't have Categories, you can find a list at Uncategorized Pages. I'll be going through those over the weekend as a priority. --abates 00:31, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Oh, wait, wrong problem. Those pages still have the Wikia spam at the bottom, so we should be able to search for them. --abates 01:02, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

We need to run a script again, then, 'cause it's well over 4,000 pages. -- Repowers 01:15, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Dang, a lot of those are accounted for by pages which have moved since last June. Or were uploaded with the wrong name because the title had a ' in it. And quite a few of them are redirects (that damn Wikia spam gets everywhere. --abates 01:44, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Not just ', but periods too. All articles starting with "S." got uploaded into S, as you can see from the history. Ditto for Dr. —Interrobang 01:51, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

I wonder if there's an easy way to get a list of articles where that's happened. I guess that will have happened with the articles starting "G.I. Joe" as well. --abates 07:29, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

A lot of these are redirects, it turns out. Dozens and dozens of (UT) redirects, among others. God I hate those things! I thought I'd stamped them out forever! Hopefully we can turn a bot loose on them to delete them? -- Repowers 09:10, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

I think a big problem is all the pages with slashes and periods in their names... it would help immensely were we able to actually sort those out automatically. It's possible to just go through those ones, and use the same files, but pass a --title parameter to the import script so it gets it right... but unfortunately, that's beyond my shell scripting abilities at the moment. Also: abates, here are the cached pages you requested: [1] is the preprocessed set, and [2] is the processed set. --Suki Brits 01:54, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Actually, maybe it's simpler than I thought. I'll give it a shot tomorrow, unless anyone has any suggestions. --Suki Brits 02:01, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Thanks very much for that! I'll start restoring some of the articles which didn't convert properly. --abates 04:24, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

I was able to spot what the problem was with the articles which didn't convert, and the HTML to Wiki tool on my site has been updated to cope with them. --abates 05:30, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Misconverted Pages Discovered

The coverted code for A Battle... and Then... got shunted into A Battle instead. (I don't want to fix it myself because my browser doesn't display the Japanese characters right, so I might lose them.) --Jeysie 05:21, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

I've shifted the code over to the right place. --abates 05:30, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Busted-arse pages

How come Armada Starscream's page is truncated? Was there something wrong with the cache we used? The Google cache has since changed to our post-crash Wikia version. --FFN 09:44, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

The cache file in Suki's zip is fine. It's on the list of articles I have which didn't import properly anyway, so it'll be fixed in due time. --abates 17:22, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Altogether missing pages

Apparently Optimus Primal toys fell through the cracks. http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:45MZwyVRoFkJ:tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Primal_toys+TFWiki+Optimus+Primal+toys&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us --Thylacine 2000 10:02, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Optimus Prime (Animated) did too - I can't find it in the big bunch of cache files from Suki, and it's gone from Google's cache. --abates 18:04, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

I just updated AniPrime as best I can from the Yahoo cache, which actually seems to have been up-to-date, albeit ugly. Thank you kindly for resurrecting Primal! --Thylacine 2000 11:39, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

All Omega Supreme pages are missing from the big cache files, too. That's just great. --FFN 11:22, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

Both still on Googlecache, thank goodness:

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:z2NCqQWjR2kJ:tfwiki.net/wiki/Omega_Supreme_(G1)+TFWiki+Omega+Supreme&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:36HJ3soPZzsJ:tfwiki.net/wiki/Omega_Supreme_(Animated)+TFWiki+Omega+Supreme&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us --Thylacine 2000 11:43, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

Okay, so, AniSupreme has already been restored by some kind soul. I'm trying G1Supreme, but... in order for me to locate the Google cache page, it highlights the search terms, and then when I save that as HTML and convert it through Abates' script, there are shittons of wiki-fied name color instructions all over everything. And also the whole page is just one teeny column wide too. What am I doing wrong? --Thylacine 2000 11:57, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

Don't worry, I just spent the past 40 minutes fixing G1 Omega Supreme's article. Unfortunately Energon Omega's Google cache has been updated to March 16th Wikia Style, though I suspect not much work was one on that article anyway. Who the hell forgot to backup the Omega articles, anyway?

BTW, I *knew* in my gut that we hadn't finished backing up yet, which is why I questioned Jeysie's decision to change the front page message from asking for Google cache help to simply cleaning up. --FFN 12:09, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

HTML to Wiki converter

I think Derik mentioned one he did as well, but here's my HTML to WikiCode converter. --abates 02:46, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Thankee, Sai. (I know I had a comic page I wasn't looking forward to hand-rearranging.) --Jeysie 03:26, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Is that the one used to filter the incoming page by the import script? -Derik 03:29, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Yes, though there are a few improvements made since the import, such as handling Wikipedia interwiki links. --abates 03:57, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

What should us laypeople do about the misconverted html pages for now? It's pretty embarrassing to have our front page link to an article that is essentially unreadable (Defiance issue 2). --FFN 08:08, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Fixed that page. Basically, just download the big tar.gz of "Before" pages Scout linked to earlier in this page (7-Zip can open just about everything, if you need a program to open it with), then run the needed page through Abates' converter manually. --Jeysie 08:31, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

That 52 meg file? Yikes. Too big for me. --FFN 09:27, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

I don't know if this is the best course of action, but if you just want individual pages, they're still here: [3] --Suki Brits 12:26, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Is there some reason why some of the cached files on the server aren't saved in html but as text files, thus rendering Abates' HTML converter useless? I see the ones marked by a question mark cannot be converted. --FFN 10:47, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

Found A Temp Fix

I dont know how long it will last, but I tried to fix Thundercracker, and well, it worked. (Look here: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Thundercracker_(Armada) ) All I did was go to [EDIT: the Wikia site] and copy over the new stuff with the old. Don't know how long it will last tho. Vipes 11:54, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

This could only possibly work on the smallest, lamest, most forgotten articles that we had here--something that had not been altered at all since June. As it happens, clicking on "compare versions" showed that we had made some small additions to Armada Thundercracker that now, in its Wikia state, are gone. Could you please go through it and reinsert the paragraph(s)? (I already closed the window, or else I'd have done it myself).

As a rule, we want our content to be DIFFERENT from theirs, for Google rankings and other important reasons; if, hypothetically, a person were to port some old Wikia page over here just to get working wiki software tags, they would then still have to dig through our own March-era files and/or cache and reinsert the modern text, one by one. If anything, that would probably be the slowest procedure available to us. --Thylacine 2000 12:14, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Can we clean house on this page?

This page has gotten pretty out of control. I have no idea what's now relevant and what's obsolete; it's totally incomprehensible for newcomers.

At this point, the things we need on this page are:

• a quick summary of recovery efforts to date (google caching of pages and talk pages, FTP uploading, filtering, auto-updating, and the subsequent mess)
• A list of remaining problems, including:
  • list of pages and talk pages that couldn't be recovered from Google. We should snag the latest versions from Wikia if they're old enough.
  • if possible, list of pages that didn't auto-update
  • list of stuff to be auto-deleted, like (UT) disambiguation pages.
  • problems on the pages that did update. So far this seems to be templates (factions, navigation, stubs, notices, etc.) and references.
  • list of images that need their descriptions, credits, copyrights and categories restored.
• succinct summary of what's to come. Can we fix the problematic stuff (templates, etc.) with scripts? If so, awesome; if not, we need a master list to start divvying up the workload again.

Everything else, including this section, can go in an archive. -- Repowers 13:03, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

All right, I started an attempt at an outline. (It should be taken as what will be left over when everything else is removed to the archive, which is why the headers are done the way they are.) --Jeysie 18:16, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Shouldn't the outline be moved off this talk page to Transformers Wiki:Community Portal/Damage Control Central? - SanityOrMadness 19:32, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Summary of Events So Far

For further information, see: Transformers Wiki:Bookworm Virus

(Needs to be added)

Google Cache Pages

Saved

• Main
• Template
• Help
• Transformers Wiki
• Talk 0000-0499, 8600-8921

Exceptions

• Akari Hibino - 100% -Derik
• All Fall Down (disambiguation)
• Charlie Bodin
• Cheyne
• Crown
• Cybertron Redux
• Deep Sea Discovery! Vector Prime
• Dirt Boss (disambiguation)
• Do Over
• El Greco
• Empire7
• End of the Road (Titan)
• Enter, Lio Convoy Typhoon
• Esther Scott
• Frederic Doss
• Fushigi Yamada
• Geonosis
• Gods? Devils? The Pretenders
• Gutcruncher (G1)
• Hasbro Q&A March 2009 question submissions
• High Beam - 100% -Derik
• Hochu Otsuka
• Insecticon Attack!
• Kazuhiko Gōdo
• Kingbolt - 100%
• Linkage Part 13 - 100%
• List of computers - 100%
• Lloyd Goldfine
• Matrix Quest (disambiguation) - 100% -Derik
• Matrix Quest (Titan)
• May 26
• Maya Klayn
• Mini-Vehicle
• Mirage (disambiguation)
• Miroslaw Neinert
• Nightscream (Energon)
• Nokia-bot
• Null ray
• Odette Yustman
• Optimus Primal toys
• Optimus Prime (Animated)
• Quick Bow
• Robot Masters (cartoon)
• Robot Masters (pack-in comic)
• Scoop (G1) - 100% -Derik
• Scoop (Shattered Glass)
• Seven
• Showdown (disambiguation)
• Slaves of the Insecticons
• Staff Sergeant Tracy
• Stag Swamp
• Stalker (G.I. Joe)
• Studio 4˚C
• Tentakil (disambiguation)
• Terrorcon (disambiguation) - 100% -Derik
• The Big Book of Coloring Fun
• The New Battle Begins!
• The Smashing Pumpkins
• The Treacherous Attack of the Decepticons
• The Victory Warriors Enter!! - 30% (stub) -Derik
• Thundercracker (Shattered Glass) - 100% -Derik
• Tight Shot
• Tlaloc - 100% -Derik
• Tsutomu Kashiwakura - 100% -Derik
• Vector

Not Saved

• Talk 0500-8599
• Template talk
• Help talk
• Transformers Wiki talk (non-Community Portal pages)

Restoration

Useful Resources

• Processed pages
• Unprocessed cache files
• Online folder of unprocessed cache files
• 7-Zip (for opening archived files)
• Abates' online cache page processor

List of Non-auto-updated Pages

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Images

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Things That Can Get the "Speedy Delete" Template

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Problems You're Likely to Run Into

• Re-templating. Lots of it.
• References will need to be redone by hand, via putting empty <ref></ref> tags in the proper places in the article, then picking out the actual reference from under the Footnotes/References section and sticking them in the Ref tags, then replacing the leftover messed-up code with the <references/> element. You may want to check against the unprocessed cache page to make sure it's all correct.

Template Code You Might Need

Breaking Lists Into Columns

{{columnlist|(number of items per column)|
(list of items)}}

Comic Issues

Items between "coverdate" and "continuity" should be customized to match the issue's actual credits and wikilinked to the person's name.

{{Comicstory|
|seriesissue=(wikilinked comic series the issue is part of)
|prev=(previous issue)
|next=(next issue)
|seriesissue2=(wikilinked second comic series the issue is also part of, if applicable)
|prev2=(previous issue in the second series, if applicable)
|next2=(next issue in the second series, if applicable)
|title=(title of the issue, if applicable)
|image=(cover image)
|caption=(caption for the cover image)
|publisher=(wikilink to the publisher)
|date=(month, day, and year the issue was released)
|coverdate=(month and year on the issue itself)
|writer=
|penciler=
|inker=
|colorist=
|letterer=
|editor=
|continuity=(wikilink to the continuity the issue takes place in)
}}

Episodes

Items between "production company" and "animation studio" should be customized to match the episode's actual opening credits and wikilinked to the person's name.

{{episode|
|series=(series the episode is in (codes: g1, headmasters, masterforce, victory,
zone, g2, beast wars ii, beast wars neo, beast machines, rid, armada, energon,
cybertron, animated))
|ep=(the episode number)
|prev=(previous episode)
|next=(next episode)
|series2=(second series the episode is in, if applicable (codes: g1, headmasters,
masterforce, victory, zone, g2, beast wars ii, beast wars neo,
beast machines, rid, armada, energon, cybertron, animated))
|ep2=(the second series episode number, if applicable)
|prev2=(previous episode in the second series, if applicable)
|next2=(next episode in the second series, if applicable)
|title=(title of the episode)
|japanese=(title in Japanese for Japanese-origin episodes, if applicable)
|romaji=(romanization of Japanese title)
|translation=(translation of Japanese title)
|image=(some representative image)
|caption=(caption for the image)
|production code=(episode's production code, if known)
|production company=(wikilink to the company that produced the episode)
|writer=
|director=
|animation studio=(wikilink to the studio that animated the episode)
|airdate=(the date the episode aired)
|continuity=(wikilink to the continuity the episode takes place in)
}}

Featured Characters

First column is "Autobots", second is "Decepticons", third is "Humans", fourth is "Others", fifth is "Misc." These headers can be changed if needed by using |h1=(new header)|c1= in place of the c1=. Code sections with no characters in them can be deleted.

{{featuredcharacters
|c1=

|c2=

|c3=

|c4=

|c5=

}}

"For Further Information"

Used whenever an article has had some of its sections separated into separate articles.
{{see|(title of separated section page)}}

Image Galleries

Used to format lots of images into a swanky-looking table.

<gallery>
Image:(filename)|(caption)
</gallery>

"See Main Article"

Whenever an article has had some of its sections separated into separate articles, this should be placed at the top of the separate articles to link them back to the page they were split from.
{{main|(title of main article)}}

Specifying How an Article Should Be Sorted in Categories

For instance, if the article is named "Simon Furman", but you want it sorted as "Furman, Simon" in all categories.
{{DEFAULTSORT:(altered title)}}

Speedy Delete

Slap this on any page that can definitely be deleted. Needless to say, don't stick this on a page unless you're absolutely certain it can be deleted!
{{speedy|(reason for delete)}}

Stubs

• General: {{stub}}
• Character pages: {{charstub}}
  • Character pages that need fiction: {{charstubfiction}}
  • Character pages that need toys: {{charstubtoys}}
• Comic issues: {{issuestub}}
• Episodes: {{epstub}}

Year Page Navigation

Puts a nice navigation box on the top of year pages.
{{yearofthe|(year)}}

Stuff Still to Come

(Needs to be added)

Discussion

Probably the wrong place, but I have to ask this of those that handle coding/templates: Is it possible to fix the Recent Changes page to have the "View (newer 500) (older 500)" usable again? Just a thought. --Lonegamer78 22:18, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

So... how does this work? Is it basically if I see a garbled page I should feel free to clean it up? - Starfield 00:02, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

Pretty much. If you see something that's really bad, (like the code's all & lt; and & gt; and stuff), try downloading the zip file of unprocessed cache files, going to Abates' converter, choosing the appropriate cache file, and running it through again. That should make it a little more managable. --Jeysie 00:48, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

Lost articles

I ran my updated script over all of the cache files, so I could restore the ones which didn't update properly the first time. However some of the cache files are blank. Crossed out ones I have redundant copies of.

• Destined Confrontation - The Children of Good and Evil
• Endgame Pt. I: The Downward Spiral
• Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall
• Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future
• Generation_2
• Genesis: The Art of Transformers 100% compliant
• Heroic Legend
• Revelations Part I: Discovery
• Revelations Part II: Descent
• Revelations Part III: Apocalypse

There were a couple of others, such as the Q&A which are already on the site, and I'm not sure which of the several "Heroic Legend" articles that one file is for, but perhaps someone has a copy of the other three? --abates 18:20, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

The big unprocessed cache zip has:

• Heroic Legend: 2010 Wars
• Heroic Legend: Head On, Master Warriors!
• Heroic Legend: Optimus Prime VS Megatron!!

Also, considering that the "proper" Generation 2 article is a redirect, and it looks like we have all of the other main G2 articles, I don't think we need to worry about that one. --Jeysie 18:50, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Cool! And I just grabbed a copy of Destined Confrontation out of MSN's cache, so consider this section closed! --abates 20:54, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

I have no idea where to ask about this

Are we able to rescue stuff from namespace pages, like sandboxes? I had an article for Bata, maker of licensed transformer footwear, almost raedy to go before the thing. Hooper_X 09:38, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

Template Help

So the second series on "A Heroic Battle" just isn't showing up. Did I do the code wrong (although I could swear it looks right), or is the template still a little messed up?

Never mind, I figured it out, although I should note that RiD, at least, doesn't seem to have the auto-prev and auto-next set up. --Jeysie 01:43, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

Also, I'm still curious about the Wookiepedia template... should I just erase it if I come across it, for now? --Jeysie 01:22, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

I see some of the spiffy new templates aren't working, like the new series of nameless characters templates (noname-nickname, etc.) and the faction icons. When I fix a page, should I restore those with the anticipation that the templates will return? - Starfield 12:34, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

When a page's code is totally effed...

I've discovered that when a page's code is totally effed by the import script, it can usually be re-condition by running it through my page filter script. (located here)

The trick is to hit "wickify" not once, but TWICE. The second round generally sorts out most of the effed-uppingness. -Derik 12:38, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

I tried that with Student and nothing changed. Are there different kinds of effed-ness? Thylacine 2000--74.73.131.210 14:11, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

The big sweep

Okay- Deceptitran has a list of ~24,000 pages the wiki either has or thinks it OUGHT to have. (There's holes since this was compiled from imperfect lists, but it's what we've got.)

I'm getting ready to start coding a slow sweep over all the pages-- this will take several DAYS. The obvious edit to make is the removal of all the wikia links (which google has begun to notice.) Can anyone think of any other simple edits that should be added in that mix? (I want to be conservative and not fuck up the code even MORE than it already is.)

I'm probably gonna run a passive (no edits, much faster) sweep first and just try to figure out what pages are missing. -12:52, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

Big sweep is ~2% complete. Loss rate is around 1%. Good news-- most of the "lost" pages are false-positives. (Crap that got onto our paster page-lists by accidents.) actual flat-out missing pages seems closer to ~0.3%.

(Of course, the estimate of what's missing is only as good as our original lists. And if they were on the original lists-- then they should have gotten backed up and restored, right?)

It's something anyway. I'll post an actual list when the sweep finishes. -Derik 13:23, 21 March 2009 (EDT)