Talk:Devastator (ROTF)

Seven vehicles

Paramount listing mention 7 constructicons vehicles, Overload is the not-mentioned-before seventh one: http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/04/01/tranformers-2-robots-announced/ --GUIGUI 17:33, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

Can we put somewhere on this page a link to either the seven Constructicons or the group page?KrytenKoro 14:04, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

A leaked image of legends class construction group even cofirms it...and might i add that they actualy combine into devastator?--Sunjumper 05:47, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

Not to us though. You just said a leaked image of the Constructicons, we only use confirmed news about this stuff (Hasbro, Wal-Mart, Target, etc.). Until then, Devastator only has six components.--AWT88 10:51, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

I withdraw my previous statement.--AWT88 10:57, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

Was the Paramount listing officially released? -Derik 10:54, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

Yes. --ItsWalky 11:06, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

I gather Takara has an upcoming toy that makes the whole thing much clearer.

Can someone who is not me use this to add altmodes to the list of names? -Derik 20:56, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

• 2010 for Legends class? Say it ain't so! 82.41.72.10 18:42, 13 June 2009 (EDT)

Should Devastator's various toy descriptions be revised? Majorish spoilers: In the film, there are at least two sets of constructicons, as they appear both as induviduals and as Devastator simultaniously, or else shown to be incapacitated to such a degree that the could not be a part of him. More importantly, the ones that form Devastator are not shown to have robot modes of their own.(although the supreme toy is still inacurate since Overload's vehicle is a clear part of Devastator) The acuracy of the figures should not have been brought into question before there was something to compare them to. Simple as that.Thelastallosaur 18:38, 20 June 2009 (ED

In what stores will Legends Devastator be available in the US? 205.188.117.8 17:43, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

Another interview

Micheal Bay confirmed that Devastator is combined from seven vehicles. And, seems each individual is able to transform (Oh...) just like the Legends class. Argh. http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/9f78f1359c3d0e8c32795a6033cceab2-551.html

In the final cut, much of that scene is dominated by CG-animated alien robots, including Devastator — the new villain made out of seven individual robots who hide in the form of construction equipment. But the flesh-and-blood actors also got to romp on the pyramids.

--TX55^TALK 03:28, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

That article was written for USA Today, it is not a quote from Bay, and as the film shows, Devy is made of more than seven vehicles, his right hand is separate from his arm, plus there's a blue and yellow dump truck that shows up above the pit he combines in. Alientraveller 19:04, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

Blind packaged?

Where has it been stated that the EZ Constructicons would be blind-packed in Japan? The other EZ guys are, but that seems to be a different assortment to the Constructicons, who were shown in US Legends-like packaging once at some show, and at least HLJ is selling them separately. -Mazenoise 12:15, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

They will be blind packed as it would be seriously stupid to sell them so you know exactly what you get when each case contains a case figure. Dead Metal 12:28, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

In what sense is it "seriously stupid"? It's logical, and perhaps inevitable, given that the rest of the EZ Collection are blind-packed, but it's not a dumb question for Mazenoise to ask. Devastator's a combiner. Even non-collectors are going to want to catch them all in that instance. If they're blind-packed, that's going to be a nightmare. (I'm still figuring the number of packs you'd need to buy to get even a 50/50 chance of completing the set.) Of course, given the relative crappiness of some of the Legends Constructicons, if they're not blind packed then the distribution will shift in favour of pegwarmers over time, which would also be unfavourable for people trying to complete the set. 137.195.68.169 07:11, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

I meant it would be stupid if they weren't blind packed as that way you would know what you get so you could easily pick the rare case figure. And these aren't part of the normal EZ collection but of a special Devastator set, each case contains 3.5 Devastators and a case figure.Dead Metal 09:20, 5 July 2009 (EDT)

Ah, got you, I misunderstood you. So we're on the same page then. 82.41.72.10 10:35, 5 July 2009 (EDT)

So turns out their not blindpacked. Dead Metal 08:06, 6 July 2009 (EDT)

Everyone's a winner! 82.41.72.10 18:19, 6 July 2009 (EDT)

Voiced?

Unless I missed something else the second time I watched the movie, that is not Devastator speaking, it is Megatron announcing/shouting to him. So Devastator doesn't speak, just roars.KrytenKoro 17:55, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

Welker often does... less verbose critters, where he just growls or makes animal sounds. There's a few he's even famous for.--Rosicrucian^Talk 17:59, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

I think he voised him in the game and the voise-box of the toy.--Sunjumper 08:25, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

Film-specific transformation?

Okay, I know the toys can only approximate the live-action design, but Devastator's combination doesn't seem to be at all consistent. To start with, the shots of the construction vehicles arriving in the canyon are off; Scrapper and Hightower are on Mixmaster's right and Overload's on his left, with Scavenger behind the other vehicles, and Rampage and Long Haul on a higher-level cliff edge. When the combination starts, however, Scrapper's on the left of Scavenger, Mixmaster is in front of the others and Overload seems to have completely disappeared. Maybe the big D is a six-Con combiner after all?

It gets worse when, from what I can tell, Rampage (who's actually on ground level along with Long Haul) apparently gets picked up by Hightower to become D's left hand. What the hell forms the left leg, then? Did Overload switch jobs and colour scheme when nobody was looking? I'd seriously appreciate some help in a consensus on what happened. Tarrn 07:51, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

It all just got swallowed into a writhing mass of metal, and reemerged where it should have been all along, apparently.KrytenKoro 20:22, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

Yes, the set-up scene with the vehicles driving up was wrong, but set that aside. Overload does not, in any way, form part of Devastator! Rampage transforms wrong, he transforms like Scavenger, with his scoop breaking into three pieces. Devastator's left arm (which already has Hightower attached) slams down on top of Rampage to form... a longer arm. You also don't see Long Haul actually attach to Devastator, but he does begin his transformation sequence. - Starfield 23:58, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

Non-individual transformation

I've read the Battle bio, but I haven't read the Movie Universe Ultimate Guide. I'd like to know what is written about Devastator's entry in the book because I think "In the film, none of the components of Devastator are shown as individual Transformers. This would justify why the components of the Constructicon Devastator playset to have no individual humanoid modes" is still notable. --TX55^TALK 22:08, 22 July 2009 (EDT)

"Did you know? ... The individual intellects of the six Constructicons are largely lost during the combination process." Roberto Orci was also asked about it and said, "I suppose since we didn't commit either way, I wouldn't want to tie the hands of future writers with my non-canon opinion." So the writers didn't commit either way, which means the work of "future writers" settles the matter. So far that means the battle bio and The Movie Universe. - Starfield 22:22, 22 July 2009 (EDT)

So it seems safe to add back only "In the film, none of Devastator's components are shown as individual Transformers. This would(might) justify why the components of his Supereme class toy to have no individual humanoid modes.", since the note doesn't mention any speculation whether Devastator is not a combiner or any suggestion which contradicts to the bio. --TX55^TALK 08:39, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

Wrecking balls?

Those are overhaul balls! The one had a hook on it. That's a major clue, because a hook on a wrecking ball would quickly become scrap.

They're not for demolition; they're to make sure the relatively light hook goes down smoothly when lowered.

Two Rampages form Devastator?

That is a good catch if it is true. I didn't notice. Can it be confirmed that two Rampages formed Devastator in the film? - Starfield 20:59, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

And what is Overload's bullet? - Starfield 21:01, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

Overload's bullet specifies that it's not always a part of Devastator in every medium. If the twin Rampage thing turns out to be true for the movie, it needs to have the same qualification to it.KrytenKoro 23:10, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

Don't know how canonical it is, but one of Devastator's promotional art pieces (http://idigitalcitizen.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/1440x960-devastator-specs.jpg) definitely has two sets of treads in the left leg - one as the foot, one up in the knee, and comparing the size of the treads to the leg itself it'd need two Rampages to have that much mass. I haven't seen a good enough shot of his leg in any other media to confirm this. Should it be three, though? It definitely seemed like a third Rampage became the left hand. Tarrn 18:56, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

That same piece of art labels the left leg as "Rampage component" (singular). I'm not sure who originally wrote that there were two Rampages or why, but I think it is because in the movie Transformation sequence Rampage forms part of the left arm along with Hightower. It is not shown where Devastator gets his left leg but presumably it is (also) Rampage. - Starfield 19:27, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

That bit for the knee doesn't look like the same kind of tread, though. It could be an unwrapped wheel, like with Scrapper.KrytenKoro 23:46, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

Supreme Class Constructicon Devastator

The second Supreme Class Devastator is impossible to find information about online. Does anyone know if this is a toy that is going to be released, or has it already been out? It looks like it is made up of the Legends Class figures, so does one have to buy all of the Legend Class vehicles to make Devastator? Fergalicious 01:53, 9 August 2009 (EDT)

Um, what second Supreme Class Devastator?82.41.72.10 18:17, 5 September 2009 (EDT)

I know what Fergalicious means. It's not a Supreme Class, it's just made of the Legends Constructicons. The size is really closer a Deluxe, if I'm right. Fallen13 20:02, 5 September 2009 (EDT)