Talk:Arcee (G1)

It wasn't just attendies to the dinners that got the talking Arcee boxes. Neither my brother or I went to that and we have two Arcee's that talk every time my parents open their closet to this day. It's been a while but could it have been all PreReges. that got them? Cause that we did do. ZacWilliam 13:27, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

That's weird. I'm pretty sure they were staying that the talky-thing was a dinner-only thing. Maybe some got out.

At any rate, jsut a note for future reference... I'm gonna be upping the h-size of the "main" images on pages up to 250px wide rather than stick with the default thumbnail size. I figure they deserve some more space. (Assuming the images are larger enough to support that.) --M Sipher 23:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

No, Zac's right. It was pre-reg only, not dinner only. --ItsWalky 00:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

If I remember my botcon reports- weren't they unveailed at the dinner? that might be what you're remembering... -Derik 04:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I recall reading somewhere that Arcee's Strength was 6, which is ridiculous as she was female. 6 for a female has got to be equivalent to 10+ for a male.71.34.68.213 22:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

She's a robot. --Andrusi 23:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

A.R.C.

I know nobody likes the guy, but should some note be made of Hal's A.R.C. toy? Or should 'official' be added to the description of the BotCon Arcee? Oh, and no affiliation with RSP, despite our shared association with tree-rats. Squirrelcar 11:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Nah, not official so its not mentioned. --FFN 16:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Model Kit art

Hrgh. That model kit art totally doesn't belong in the Marvel Comics section. But there's no where appropriate to move it to. But I don't want it to leave! --ItsWalky 06:18, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Let's keep it here for now:

S.O.B's shot my Leia-buns!

Can't is go in the animated section? It's Japan, they meant for it to be in animated continuity. -Derik 07:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Not *their* animated continuity. The instructions featured art of our Powermaster Optimus Prime model, crazy enough. --ItsWalky 15:29, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Derik's suggestion might work, but if it came with the model kit, why not put it (with, of course, some mention of the model kit) down under Merchandise? --Sntint 08:16, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Are the Axis comic online somewhere? I wants a link. -Derik 17:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Please. I've been wanting to read them forever. My Hidetsugu Yoshioka wuv needs fulfilment. --DrSpengler 17:30, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I've uploaded the Arcee and Elita One comics. I don't seem to have a copy of Hot Rod's, which is a shame since it has by far the best Engirsh. They're probably not really fair use, and the scans are stolen anyway, so if they need to be taken down, feel free to do so. I couldn't find the actual scans on seibertron itself anymore. -LV 18:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Translate book titles! ^_^ -Derik 17:56, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

• Since there's no furigana I've gotta break out my kanji fast-finder to translate thoes book titles. I'll get to that sooner or later, but first I've got some manga to finish for the Archive.

PS, thanks for the comics, LV! --DrSpengler 19:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

"They're not men, Arcee. We've been over this!" What, they're DEVO? --Zodberg 21:10, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

QUESTION: where do her wheels go when she is in robot form? Is she a hovercar without wheels? 24.193.123.96 07:29, 8 May 2009 (EDT) confused

They go into subspace. LokitheGrammarNazi 11:54, 25 August 2010 (EDT)

"Ancestor"?

she also just might be one of Rattrap's ancestors

I'm not sure "great-aunt" is technically an "ancestor", since Rattrap isn't descended from her (she's not his grandmother). Possibly we should say "Rattrap's relatives"? JW 14:03, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Somewhat agree with this, but you have to remember transformers' lifetimes can span millennia... it's feasible calling her an ancestor, but perhaps "descendant" is a better word? Kudos to: Steve-o for hitting up the reference for this one.Bento180 16:01, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm unclear on what you mean, since "ancestor" and "descendant" are opposites. Regardless, since Arcee is not Rattrap's mother, grandmother, great-grandmother, great-great-grandmother, etc., she's not technically his ancestor, and he's not technically her descendant. They're just relatives.

Recommend changing the sentence to "she also just might be one of Rattrap's relatives" or "also, Rattrap claims to be her great-nephew". JW 16:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Apologies, I meant calling Rattrap a descendent of Arcee. I agree in that calling them realtives might be more correct, however it is possible for Autobots to be siblings (ie. Ultra Magnus and Prime as brothers) If he calls her his great aunt, then we should go with it. I don't see a problem with that, we may as well be precise.

Um, I think use "relative" would be better, since an ancestor is a parent or the parent of an ancestor and Rattrap calls Arcee "great-aunt" instead of "great-granny". --TX55 17:10 , 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. done.

"The Metamorphosis"

So, what are the rules about adding info from unpublished stories? I have a little synopsis of what this story was supposed to be about from Dan Khanna that I though might be good to add...Lightsyder 17:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Binaltech Arcee

It's confirmed by non photoshopped images now. The figure was shown at the Shizuoka Hobby Show 2008. It's not a retool. [1]--Rosicrucian^Talk 20:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

And now there's official stock photography showing the same. I haven't changed the text yet, but I will unless people object.--Rosicrucian^Talk 14:51, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

The existing text is abit too much like a news post, though. I would prefer to ditch the text and merely saw what we officially know at the moment, and pad it out with more general descriptions of the toy, like we do for other toy sections. --FFN 15:57, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

On Genders

As an asexual and mono-gendered race, the Transformers are technically female. So if they created Arcee as a means to explore gender duality, as I heard someone suggest once, that means she's a dude. What a pretty man, though. :) 213.66.207.185 05:53, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

Your definition of "technically female" is waaaay off. Noviere 12:35, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

Pretty much everything in that entire above post is waaaay off.--76.28.72.27 13:45, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

Oh so Arcee's male? That must be why she's called a female Autobot then. Seriously we need facepalm smilies on here.Dead Metal 14:12, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

A new main image, with photoshop?

Arcee's main image is beautifully rendered, yet, uh, kind of ridiculously over-sexified. "HEY COME HAVE SEX WITH ME" she says, beckoning you into her crotch. So, hey, maybe if we manage to clean this up a bit, we'll have a new one. --ItsWalky 11:11, 31 January 2010 (EST)

I really hate the high heels Japanese art persisted in giving Arcee back in the day... - Chris McFeely 11:19, 31 January 2010 (EST)

Not just the Japanese, not just Arcee, not just back in the day. As for the image, it's nice, but hardly an improvement imo. Her pose still is somewhat invitive, with an exaggerated chest and an attention-grabbing hand on her leg. If Arcee is to get a new main image, I'd prefer something else. Geewunling 11:52, 31 January 2010 (EST)

I really don't think this is nearly as "invitive" as you claim. If it's "invitive," it's only, say, 10% as "invitive" as our current image. Anyway, Monzo got me a cleaner copy without the English, and that was an easy thing to clean up. I think we should use it. --ItsWalky 12:23, 31 January 2010 (EST)

We're disagreeing a lot these days, aren't we? D: Then again, I only said "somewhat". I'm neutral to a switch; you guys decide whether it should be done or not. Geewunling 12:30, 31 January 2010 (EST)

I don't think it is a terribly good likeness of her. She doesn't look much like Arcee from the shoulders up. Very pale face. Blank eyes. Shoulder wings. Weird super-sized helmet... and no lipstick :) - Starfield 13:14, 31 January 2010 (EST)

While neither image really seem to capture her personality as a warrior, the Magami piece at least takes it as far as "minx", whereas the Yoshioka piece is all sorts of slutty. Plus, this one has her alt mode in it, so okay. --Spengs (at work, can't log in)

Yes. Make the change. --KilMichaelMcC 12:41, 31 January 2010 (EST)

Is it too late to recommend the Alex Milne cover for Spotlight: Arcee? Damn. :) --Xaaron 13:40, 31 January 2010 (EST)

Since we're not unanimously deeply enthusiast of this image, another option stays a possibility. I, however, prefer the new image over anything relating to "Spotlight: Arcee". It better approaches Arcee-ICness than the spotlight. Geewunling 13:50, 31 January 2010 (EST)

Xaaron is, of course, joking. Besides, it's a redesign, not something based on her first body, so it's ineligible anyway. --ItsWalky 13:51, 31 January 2010 (EST)

• Sigh* I am ever so terrible at separating joke from real. Sorry for that. But... the Spotlight version isn't that far off her original body. I know we have a first body-policy, but does it cover even that level of difference? Geewunling 13:56, 31 January 2010 (EST)

I've seen some fanart of the two designs side-by-side. It's actually quite noticeably different while still managing to look 'overall' the same.

As for this change... I'm neutral to it. I find this art a bit lifeless, but it's darker pink (splitting the difference between the baby-girl pink of the cartoon and the burgundy of IDW) and while the old arrt was pretty iconic... it wasn't actually GOOD. (I want to say that that replaced the Pat Lee cheesecake poster...) I'm okay with it anyway. -Derik 15:30, 31 January 2010 (EST)

Does it stand for anything?

My dad, being the annoying old man he is, wants me to see what "RC" stands for even though I've explained it isn't spelled like that and it doesn't stand for anything. Does anyone have any suggestions what it could stand for? --Ninjabot33 05:51, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

"Race Car." --ItsWalky 07:31, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

Or "Race Cycle" for certain iterations.  :) --Nu-Priest 11:08, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

Sometimes it's "Remote Controlled" as a prefix to "car". If that was a feature in the continuity, that would have been pretty cool. LokitheGrammarNazi 11:50, 25 August 2010 (EDT)

I could have sworn it stood for "Radio Controlled." At least up here, there used to be tonnes of ads for "RC cars." -- Semysane 15:12, 12 December 2010 (EST)

Prime's Rib

"Optimus Prime surrendered and ordered Wheeljack and Ratchet to make a new Autobot" - Exactly where is it said that Ratchet and Wheeljack built Arcee? Geewunling 17:06, 30 September 2012 (EDT)

Unless there's an Arcee "Facts File" somewhere, that seems to be completely fabricated information. --ItsWalky 18:14, 30 September 2012 (EDT)

Japanese VAs

The Japanese VAs listed on the page contradict the pages for the VAs:

• Yōko Kawanami is listed as having played her in the series itself and Headmasters, but her page says she played her in the movie and Headmasters.
• Masako Katsuki is listed as having played her in the movie, but her page says she played her in the series.

Which ones are correct? --flicky1991 02:21, 22 April 2013 (EDT)

Split out sub-page for IDW G1 Arcee?

Is this article's IDW G1 section worth its own sub-page? If not for length then what about IDW G1 Arcee's distinctive personality and background? S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 17:54, 27 September 2015 (EDT)

Not saying it's not, but seems like her cartoon section is bigger and more deserving of it if we're looking for ways to reduce page-size. - Chris McFeely (talk) 17:56, 27 September 2015 (EDT)

Why not both? -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:26, 29 September 2015 (EDT)

A separate page for Arcee's IDW stuff would be pretty tiny. --abates (talk) 01:36, 30 September 2015 (EDT)

I think it'd be pretty close in size to Galvatron's. And she is a main character in the-book-formerly-called-RiD, and is also about to be major in Sins, it'd grow fast. ZeroSD (talk) 06:59, 30 September 2015 (EDT)

My point is that splitting out her IDW section would not reduce the page size by a significant amount. Splitting out sections should be a last resort when the page gets too big. --abates (talk) 15:49, 30 September 2015 (EDT)

Ask Vector Prime

On the Ask Vector Prime page on Facebook, Vector says that "Arcee was a biologist protoformed with a male frame, and sent to observe some of these worlds post-war. On one world they had gone onto, Arcee stumbled upon what organics call "gender dysphoria disorder" and studied this phenomenon closely." Maybe mention this in Notes? RedWingGladiator (talk) 23:39, 2 January 2016 (EST)RedWingGladiator

AVP content waits two weeks before being put into articles. Saix (talk) 00:08, 3 January 2016 (EST)

Main caption removal

The main caption (removed on 13 February 2026) has "annoyed" me for a long time (from when I was still just a reader instead of a contributor) and as per the caption help page that no caption is better than a bad one, I've take the presumptuous liberty of removing it. My problem with it is twofold. On one hand, I don't think it's okay to open a page about a (prominent) female character with a joke about her availability. And on the other, while the joke attempts to be queer positive (appreciated), it posits male heterosexuality as the norm (and wlw as the twist) and by denying the legitimacy of Arcee's fm relationships (weird next to a principally continuity neutral intro) ends up being bi/panphobic. I have no caption to offer as an alternative at this point in time, so I hope the empty thumb isn't too disruptive. BerylRoll (talk) 01:28, 13 February 2026 (EST)

And you doing this is pretty homophobic. All of her M/F relationships have the same level of ambiguous canonicity as every other female transformer that has deeper relationships with male characters (which is pretty much all of them), while her F/F relationships are very much textually reciprocated on-screen. Also, I think it's important to remember male heterosexuality is, in fact, the norm in society. ALL of her M/F relationships are comphet as a result of her being The Token Girl Who Has To Be The Love Interest In A Boys/Men-Aimed Toy Brand, no matter how much any of that is actually fleshed out. There are plenty of other plausibly bi/pan characters. Going on a tirade like this about a character who even could be explicitly called a lesbian - especially in 2026 - ain't the move. cat (talk) 01:42, 13 February 2026 (EST)

Apologies, but I don't believe it's me who is going on a "tirade" here and I find it disappointing that you come to this so, as you call it, "passionately". I am not denying anything -- everything about all of Arcee's relationships is well-covered in the article and if you want them to also be mentioned in the intro, go for it. I am only saying that the removed caption is not suitable as an (introductory) joke. BerylRoll (talk) 02:02, 13 February 2026 (EST)

I sort of said this in the edit when replacing the caption (sorry) but while the intention of workshopping something more bi/pan inclusive is a noble one replacing one of the most visible statements of editorial queer positivity on the site with nothing *before* discussion definitely leans towards doing more harm than good. --AzimuthAcolyte (talk) 02:28, 13 February 2026 (EST)

You have my gratitude for your input and the building-bridgesness choice of words.(*) I acknowledge that in this matter I have overstepped and/or have been too hasty and I do apologize for that, notwithstanding that I insist the caption is not queer positive. This is wlw or lesbian positivity, but biphobic and therefore not queer positive because "queer" is inclusive. I'll see if I can come up with an actually queer positive alternative after all, or at least move the caption away from focusing on a woman's availability and the prioritization of men, which is my primary problem with the caption (hence why it was the first one I mentioned). If anyone else reads this, it would mean a lot to me to workshop this, maybe even with a small intro rewrite to cover Arcee's "multisexuality" more honestly. BerylRoll (talk) 03:01, 13 February 2026 (EST)

(*I) realize that my words after the asterisk may come across as hostile but I can't find other words to hold up my stance and why it matters (to me). Therefore, I'm adding this addendum to reiterate that my gratitude is sincere. And it was sincere even before you added "sorry", which is an additional gesture you have my additional gratitude for. BerylRoll (talk) 03:01, 13 February 2026 (EST)

As a bi person, I think we can just let the lesbians have a lesbian-centric joke. Not every joke needs to be all inclusive of every permutation of human existence. — Daniel Adkins (talk) 08:24, 13 February 2026 (EST)

I think your basic thesis for making this edit is flawed. Versions of Arcee who have engaged in what could be charitably seen as flirtatious dialogue or scenes with men (Hot Rod, Chromedome etc) aren't shown to seriously reciprocate in any meaningful sense (in particular, Headmasters' Chromedome's crush is seemingly almost entirely one-sided). The idea that Arcee has been depicted in flirtatious scenarios with men but has been a lesbian in two major publications means that there is an Arcee of the mean, an Average Arcee, who is bisexual doesn't hold up. And again, the lesbian activities Arcee has been depicted engaging in have been things like kissing, getting married and having children, which probably carries a bit more weight than whatever the line is in TFTM. Maybe one day the great bisexual Arcee story will be written and then we can talk, but I think making up a hypothetical bisexual Arcee in order to justify a caption (literally the first thing people read on the page) would get in the way of the wiki's actual mission: accurately representing information about the Transformers.Star Spangled Sam (talk) 08:57, 13 February 2026 (EST)

I know I'm not any kind of prominent editor here and my opinion likely doesn't carry much weight, but for my two cents, I tend to find it a bit weird that a main image that, in its original context, was meant to specifically portray G1 Cartoon continuity Arcee, has a caption that seemingly denies or diminishes the G1 Cartoon continuity. Maybe I'm overreacting, but I feel like it even has potential to cause confusion for more casual fans/users. I get that some of you are attached to the particular caption, so, seeing as this caption refers more to the IDW comics despite being on a continuity-neutral main page, maybe it could be moved over to the main image for the IDW subpage? Mosquitosquisher7 (talk) 19:33, 22 February 2026 (EST)

The G1 cartoon incarnation already has its own subpage with its own mainpic and its own caption, the main page is something of a freestyle zone. --AzimuthAcolyte (talk) 20:07, 22 February 2026 (EST)