Talk:Decepticon Headquarters (G1 Cybertron)

I was planning on making an article about the base Shockwave used on Cybertron in the G1 cartoon, but the only name for that was Decepticon headquarters, per The Ultimate Doom, Part 2. Is it possible that we could move this page to a different location, such as Decepticon base? -- SFH 01:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

IMO the undersea base should have its own article. See older discussion here. If Shockwave's HQ gets its own page, there's no reason not to have separate pages for the others listed here as well. We'd need some creative naming schemes, though. -- Repowers 01:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

The undersea base already has a page. Decepticon space cruiser --FortMax 01:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

That's about the space ship, not the undersea base that it became part of. If they belong on one page, the page should be about Decepticon Headquarters, and the space cruiser should be a subordinate section, not vice versa -- the cruiser basically appeared three episodes, while Con HQ was in several dozen. -- Repowers 02:16, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

It seems to detail the underwater phase of its history as well.--Rosicrucian^Talk 02:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

The thing, Repowers, is that we don't know how much the other buildings were used. The docking tower was shown to be part of the space ship in The Girl Who Loved Powerglide, so it played an integral role in the base's design. -- SFH 02:27, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I think it's a safe bet that the space ship was not originally designed with a giant docking tower attached to it.

Anyways, there's sorta a matter of principal at stake here. I realize everybody here loves obscure crap like giving names to unnamed space ships, and giving whole pages to minor, forgotten, and silly corners of the mythos. That's great. Heck, I love it too.

But we also go to great lengths to comply with the in-universe nomenclature. Barricade's writeup never once refers to his human target as "Sam"; he's consistently "Ladiesman217". The humans in the attack on SOCCENT never talk about "Blackout"; they talk about "the helicopter" or "the giant robot". So... why do we suddenly ignore this when it comes to spaceships turned into terrestrial bases? Could it be because, in this case, it results in being less obscure? That's a bad reason.

Once the space cruiser was on the ocean floor, everybody in the show called it "Decepticon Headquarters". Consistently. Repeatedly. For many, many episodes. And the term "space cruiser" was never, ever heard again. The current article structure ignores this, for reasons that are not clear to me at all. -- Repowers 02:41, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not really sure I understand what you want. Do you want to move the article to Undersea Decepticon headquarters, or make an article for it? -- SFH 02:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Either one, though it would be simpler to have one unified article at Undersea Decepticon Headquarters or Decepticon Undersea Headquarters..

The rest of the places on this page should probably have their own pages as well. New Jersey Decepticon Base, Giant Decepticon Symbol, etc. It wouldn't be the first time we've assigned names to things that didn't have them. -- Repowers 03:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Name vs description

I don't believe this page should get the lowercase treatment. The characters consistently refer to "Decepticon Headquarters" -- no article, no possessive. It's a name, not just a description. -- Repowers 15:48, 8 March 2008 (UTC)