Talk:Optimus Prime (G1)

Splitting

I am proposing that we split Optimus Prime's toy section off into a separate article - "See list of Optimus Prime (G1) toys" or something equivalent, as Wikipedia does. The article as a whole is really long and is only going to get longer, and it seems like a logical place for a split. Thoughts? --Monzo 11:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

As long as I get to create it, since I largely wrote the toy section myself. You're not stealing my pointless Internet Glory, you jerkfaces. You have the faces of several jerks! --FFN 12:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I vote "Optimus Prime (G1) toys", rather than List of X. --ItsWalky 16:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

A disambig prior to the end of the article? That's crazy-talk!

(Of course, the alternative is Optimus Prime toys (G1), which is just plain wrong.) -69.88.91.218 16:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Shall I create the new article now? I think its moot if Walky (an admin) votes in favour of it. --FFN 16:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I made the G1 Prime toy article anyway, since scrolling down to make edits in the big Prime page is annoying, and I always need to check to see how pics I use in one section affect the section before or after. --FFN 16:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Splitting Part 2

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And neither his cartoon nor Marvel sections are remotely close to finished. We need to consider a way to split a character fiction page. --ItsWalky 19:43, 13 April 2009 (EDT)

As of right now, his Marvel G1 section alone is too long to be its own page. --ItsWalky 10:38, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

Done with Marvel G1 section, pretty sure. Phew! It is now, by itself, 54kb. --ItsWalky 20:04, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

My first thought would be to break out the Marvel Comics continuity and G1 cartoon continuity sections into their own pages, as they're likely to be the longest bits. ("Optimus Prime (G1 Marvel Comics)" and "Optimus Prime (G1 cartoon)", perhaps? I don't like the implicaiton of those page names, though, which make it sound like we're designating each of these as separate characters.) A See main article: link under each header would cover it, similar to what we do for toys and merchandise. (It'd be a nice touch if we could leave like maybe one image alongside each link, so they aren't quite so lost in the shuffle.) -- Repowers 21:00, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

How about "Optimus Prime (G1) Marvel Comics" and "Optimus Prime (G1) cartoon". It doesn't give the impression (as much) that it is a different character and is more like "Optimus Prime (G1) toys". - Starfield 21:13, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, that scheme definitely works better. Maybe "Sunbow cartoon" just to make it absolutely clear? -- Repowers 21:15, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

Would the Japanese cartoon continuity stuff go in that article as well? --Apoc 21:23, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

Scout assures us that by "some browsers" it means "Netscape 6 or older," which 0% of our readers are using. However, there's still a practical problem, what with having to scroll past 10 pages to get to other content. --ItsWalky 21:36, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

Maybe Japanese stuff should go with the Sunbow stuff, since some part of them are common. But if that happens, the title may become "Optimus Prime (G1) Subow/Japan" or something like that. --TX55^TALK 02:52, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

"Optimus Prime (G1) cartoon continuity". -Derik 02:54, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

I'd go with something more like "Optimus Prime in the G1 cartoon." --KilMichaelMcC 15:27, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

"Optimus Prime (G1) fiction (cartoon)" or similar? Character, series identifier, fiction, subfiction identifier. Hooper_X 19:56, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

Splitting Part 3

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This is a joke now. With the server problems, most of the time it doesn't even fully load. It needs to be split. Urgently. "Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics" and...? - SanityOrMadness 15:43, 1 June 2009 (EDT)

"Optimus Prime (G1)/Cartoon continuity"? Including all the Japanese stuff? - Chris McFeely 15:47, 1 June 2009 (EDT)

The cartoon section adds up to 91 kilobytes, apparently. With change for categories, etc, that would put it alone (excluding the MSTF transcripts) somewhere between third and fifth in the Long pages list behind only Starscream (G1) [112 kilobytes, another one we should probably look at splitting], Megatron (G1), possibly Kup (G1) and probably the residue of this page. Not entirely sure about working "continuity" into the page title either - it's, to pick one random example, Tap-Out (Animated) not "Tap-Out (Animated continuity)", after all. - SanityOrMadness 16:20, 1 June 2009 (EDT)

I'm not trying to say that all previously options for splitting this article are bad ideas (I support them, as a matter of fact) but I'm just going to pitch another idea in case we need to go to a plan B or something like that... Maybe we could even split his fiction into seperate time periods? As in "Optimus Prime (G1)/Fiction: 1988-2000" (and yes, I just made up random years up for my example.) I don't know how good an idea that would be, but in any case, even if it's a horrible idea, I always find suggesting alternative solutions to problems like this helps, regardless of whether or not they end up being used... --Ascendron 16:09, 1 June 2009 (EDT)

Personally, I think it'd be best to split it into "Optimus Prime (G1)" and "Convoy", and to do the same with the other huge character pages, too. - Magnus Maximus 17:52, 1 June 2009 (EDT)

Splitting Part 4

Excluding the MSTF transcripts, this is again the longest page on TFWiki (the toys sub-page is right up there too, whereafter there's a 10kb gap back to Kup (G1)). About the only section long enough to split out and make a page by itself is the IDW continuity - should that be split? Also, should the Marvel colouring book be moved to the Marvel page, which is long but not super-super-long? - Mammalian Verisimilitude 11:26, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

I totally agree, IDW has more issues than Marvel now and will likely continue for some time, especially as he didn't die in The Death of Optimus Prime. Alternatively Orion Pax could be split off, Megatron and Galvatron have different articles so why not? Mister Jazz 11:38, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

Old crap

I vote that we keep this article blank untill the last possible moment

This isn't a democracy, X-BoB. It's the Internet. You fail at wiki.

I think this article should be done as soon as possible. Because of, y'know its massive importance and stuff. BeastWarrior 08:12, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't we refeare to Optimus Prime as Convoy in the articles on the JPN shows?

Sentenial Prime shouldn't be in the first paragraphs, as he's not in all contuities JMO-X-BoB58

It warrants discussion - after all, he is the most powerful of the Go-Bots...

• save that for Bayformers.

Dreamwave Continuity

The article says: "Optimus Prime started life as Optronix (Orion to his friends)"

Does anyone have an issue reference for this (the Orion part)? I admit that my DW knowledge isn't too great, but I don't recall this.--G.B. Blackrock 15:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

It's from the Keepers Trilogy. -Derik 17:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

That explains it, then. I don't really consider the Keepers Trilogy as canon, never having bothered to read it. However, since it is official, it's appropriate here.--G.B. Blackrock 17:33, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Canon's a tough call witht he Keepers Trilogy. The Optronix thing, for instance, was originally drafted for Optimus Prime's MTMTE profile (IIRC) but the MTMTE thing was drasticly retooled midway through, and so it didn't make it into the entry-- but apparently Scott Ciencen had access to a draft of it which he used for Prime's backstory.

As for the Keepers Trilogy's overall continuity... it doesn't mesh any WORSE than the first Dreamwave mini-series. (Faint praise though that be.) Plus it made some definite motions to align itself more closely to the comics continuity at the end of the 3rd book. ...and if I remember my timeline right, Superion's head showed up in Annihilation before it would have been written into TF#0. -Derik 00:34, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Stuff

"Auntie" was, so far as I know, not an acronym. As well, it was definitely the name for the Ark's computer in the US, so I removed the italics as I didn't think those events/reasonings were UK-specific.

As well, the Intraformers competition is not from the UK - it's from Sureshot's Transformers: Universe profile. But as I didn't look it up yet, I wasn't sure if I should un-italize the mention of "before he was named Optimus Prime" that's mentioned with it. --Monzo 03:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Marvel continuity, from the intraformers sharpshooting competition arose, never had a 'pre optimus Prime.' He was always just Optimus Prime. (And was called such even when a junior officer, as seen in the Underbase saga.)

Optimus Prime was a gifted athlete beginning to study for a medical profession when the war broke out. Presumably the shooting competition was part of Prime's athlete days- shooting is an Olympic sport after all. (Well,part of one.)

If you want to split the difference on the entry, I suggest changing 'before he was named Optimsu Prime' to either before the war began or before the war began in earnest. The latter is only loosely justified by the text of comics continuities (the city-ststes had standaign armies and apparently fought- the great games were suppsoed to be a formalized sublimation of this) but it does have the marit of fitting well with War Dawn (and thus fits the new post* continuities which've come along that smosh both continuities together) without actually being wrong in the context of its original occourence. -Derik 03:26, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

And it's not like civilians don't do shooting sports as a hobby or anything. -hx 04:12, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Beast Wars Primal

Do we want to include the BW Bat Primal and the first MUNKY Primal as toys of Prime? In all one piece of media Bat Primal appeared in, he was definintly Prime with a new name, and the same can be said for Ultra MUNKY's specs. I can't remember if it's been brought up before, but if it has, I can't find it.

It's been a topic of discussion, but I think most of it has kept to IRC so far. The red/blue "Convobat" from Japan may even have text on the back that says it's the original Prime, and the purple alligator Megatron that came with it has text that mentions a Walther P38, but we haven't pursued further translation. --ItsWalky 00:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, we did, and it specifically says on both of them that they used to have those modes and are now animals. The problem, of course, is whether that makes them any more "really" Prime and Megatron than the US versions, or for that matter the Ultra toys in either country. Remember that Japan didn't even get a yes-or-no on whether they were the same guys until Metals. My personal preference would probably be to consider all of them Primal and BW Megs toys, despite how much I want the CD guys to be the G1 characters, or else we get into a bizarre continuum of "bat is Prime/ape is both/TM is Primal" which is confusing and not helpful, I think. -LV 01:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Reviving this topic from the Bush administration to call attention to the fact that we ended up with the relevant beast toys on Prime's page but the microcontinuity where they actually represent Prime entirely localized to Primal's. Now the solution we ended up workshopping on the Discord was porting the info over here and leaving mainlinks to it on Primal's page or vice versa. Thoughts? -AzimuthAcolyte (talk) 13:43, 26 June 2021 (EDT)

I know I said this on Discord already, but I am all for "Move fiction here, leave a mainlink on Primal's page."-- Cyberlink420 (talk) 13:46, 26 June 2021 (EDT)

I'm all in for a migration of the relevant info. MrRald (talk) 15:35, 19 July 2021 (EDT)

I know I already agreed on Discord, but just for the wiki's record: I am for the migration. Fanofcoolstuff27 (talk) 15:54, 19 July 2021 (EDT)

Kiss Players

This bio says the EDC was bringing Convoy's remains from the battle of Autobot City. I hadnt' seen this in any of the other stuff i read, so could someone confirm that for me? -Derik 04:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

That info was put in by Swift, who seriously knows his Kiss Players stuff. --ItsWalky 06:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Walky. To express my gratitude, I shall try to be less of a dumbass in the future. -Derik 07:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that reputation, but I suppose I brought it on myself. And yeah, lots of KP story material places it as a direct follow-up to the movie.--Swift 16:39, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Follows the movie- but not trying to be compatale with season 3, right? -Derik 16:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Wait, naughty-surfer Marissa Fairborne. That was a stupid question. I recind it! -Derik 16:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it helps that Japanese season 3 takes place 4 years after this, since it's all up in 2010 instead of 2006. --ItsWalky 17:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, right, I forgot, the 5-years-in-which-Daniel-does-not-appear-to-age. That DOES change things. -Derik 18:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

They do seem to be taking pains to make it all sort of fit in. Hot Rod's backstory says he gave up the Matrix and reverted from Rodimus, too. --Swift 19:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Pudding

MSTF running gag. "First darkness... then... light... then, pudding, I don't know why." Since then, PUDDING has come up in regards to Prime a bit frequently. --M Sipher 00:12, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Parody trivia

I don't think we should include in trivia (or anywhere else) all statements done in all the parody. I know the family Guy Jewish Prime is notorious, but if we start including that, we should as well mention Prime turned a movie for prostate cancer prevention. I think canon is difficult enough to determine by itself. Also, if we had to seriously think about Optimus's religious orientation, he is most probably a Primus believer. Unless being Jewish for a transformers is about not believing Rodimus Prime is the new Primus incarnation, but in that case, most of the Transformers are probably Jewish.

... who the fuck put that in there? The idea of Family Guy being TF canon has made me physically ill, thank you. --M Sipher 23:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. -hx 00:02, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

John Wayne & Abe Lincolln

The David Wise interview on the Kid Rhino DVD's includes a fairly lengthy tangent on why he thinks Optimus Prime was the greatest of the 80's bumper crop of heroic characters, where he says that it's because Prime is a mash-up of Lincoln's ideals and John Wayne's methodology. He was discussing RoOP (which he didn't write) but this comparison seems to be 'about' his work in season 2. Thing is, I couldn't tell- is the Wayne-Lincoln thing Wise's way of looking at Prime? Something the Sunbow writers room had synthesized by the time season 2 was ramping up? (Prime was much blander in season 1...) Or was it always part of his character? The original character bios of Prime have it in spades- was there a margin-note that Budinsky (or whoever) jotted down somewhere for Prime 'John Wayne + Lincoln' that other writers followed, or did this realization/synthesis come later?

Tom Pope has a fascinating theory on heroes and societies, and it caught my eye that he thinks the most recent set of heroic archetypes (they come in pairs,) were Wyatt Earp and Lincoln. I see Tom on occasion, and I think he'd get a kick out of the Optimus Prime thing, but I want to get it right. -Derik 19:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Cartoon section confusion

I was advised against segmenting G1 Soundwave's article to reflect his appearance in the Madman comic as it would be a bad trend of splitting established continuities every time a new story or dubious retcon emerges. After viewing the cartoon section of this page, I can see what JW means, because I couldn't tell what the hell was going on. Why are the Japanese comics (even if they are set within their alternate cartoon continuity) directly inserted between G1 Season 1/2 and the 1986 Movie? And then the Teletraan Go Go and Kiss Players crap in between the movie and Season 3/4, which, funnily enough, also uses the Japanese 2010 title, which, as far as I know, we have never used as I am so often reminded that this is a American Transformers wiki. As it stands, the cartoon section of arguably the most important character on this wiki is very confusing. --FFN 18:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Ichh, didnt see this talk post and talked about this on the Soundwave talk page... yeah, I'm all agreeing with this, and stuff. As the American and Japanese animated continuities have just recently become very different animals as a result of all the extra stuff that's been jammed into the Japanese timeline lately, I'm more in favour of "American animated continuity" and "Japanese animated continuity" being two separate headers. I did this with Ultra Magnus recently (I remember between posts!), and I think it's the tidiest way of representing the information. I'm not doing anything this evening, so I might take a crack at re-working Prime's page to see what we all think... - Chris McFeely

A lot of the stuff on Optimus Prime's page is a product of the wiki's very early work. When Japanese/English stuff gets this crazy, it should be separated accordingly. --ItsWalky 22:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Roight, I've taken a stab at reorganizing it all. What say we all? - Chris McFeely 23:32, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks man, I forgot all about this as I was blocking out the mess of this page from my mind. I think we should have some sort of 'review' policy where we check articles that were created in full in 2006 to see if they still adhere to our current requirements. --FFN 20:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Weapon

Any other weapon he uses other than his standard Rifle?(MARV 2000 23:44, 10 March 2008 (UTC))

Do his Furmanisms count? --MistaTee 15:17, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Depends on the continuity. In Stormbringer he uses bunches and bunches of weapons. JW 15:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Name

Just curious but is a plural version of his name Optimuses or Optimi? Proconix

"Optimuses", per Megatron (BW). JW 15:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Okeydoke.Proconix

Cullen in Later Commercials

Has this been verified? Back in either BotCon 2004 or BotCon 2006 (I don't recall which at the moment), Cullen claimed NOT to have done those late commercials (post-movie). I'm perfectly willing to believe that this is just faulty memory, but wanted to check.--71.110.188.13 09:56, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

Everybody in those later commercials sounded like either Cullen or Michael Bell, so unless they got two imitators of their voices exactly, who couldn't do other voices... --ItsWalky 10:45, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

Robot Masters sub-headings

The Robot Masters sub-headings are h6s (six =s). They're SMALLER THAN THE BODY TEXT! I think some significant rearrangement of that bit should be considered... - SanityOrMadness 18:54, 26 April 2009 (EDT)

I hate those little things, but really, there's not a lot that can be logically done. About the only thing to do is bump the whole Japanese cartoon cotinuity up by one header size, but then it ceases to be a sub-header of the "Generation 1 cartoon continuity" (I've done it like that in a few places in the past, purely for... well, this very aesthetic reason, actually, but I'm pretty sour on the idea now). It ceases to be an issue, mind you, if we split the cartoon off into its own article, where the headers can all move up one (or even two) sizes because of the reduced need for them. And that's looking more and more like something we should really do. Because... well, goddamn. There are still three continuities that need written up, and more that need fleshed out to full! - Chris McFeely 20:39, 26 April 2009 (EDT)

If this is happening in several articles, then perhaps tweaking the site CSS to increase the size of h5s and h6s should be considered... - SanityOrMadness 08:36, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

Possible suggestion? - SanityOrMadness 08:59, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

Italian Dubbing

Hi, I'm Italian and I'm trying to track the italian Optimus Prime voices. Yes, I said voices: the "italian Prime" had – at least – 4 different voices thru the four cartoon seasons and the animated movie (maybe 5 voices!). Traking the story of Optimus italian voices is a little bit difficult because of a lack of infos about italian '80 dubbing of the G1 series (saying that is chaotic is an euphemism: we have characters that actually change their voice in a single episode, for example Bumblebee/Maggiolino). I would like to add a note in Optimus G1 page about this (in my opinion is a nice curiosity about Optimus), but in wich section can I add it?

Moreover, I think that the whole italian '80 dubbing is interesting, because of this "voices chaos": not a single character has the same voice thru the G1 continuity (Megatron/Galvatron at least 2 voices, Starscream at least 3 voices, and so on).

What do you guys think about?

Alternity

Wouldn't it be better to separate the Alternity Optimus from this one? Noting that he used to be G1 Prime? As he does look a fair bit different and has all these crazy powers and stuff. Just an idea. Dead Metal 10:40, 3 August 2009 (EDT)

From what i get from the story, he's both G1 Optimus Prime and every other optimus prime that joined Alternity...that's the hard part, i think he sould stay here and link other primes(who actualy get fiction) join.--Sunjumper 15:56, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

Universe 2.0/action blast

Should it be placed here, or will we give that Prime his own article?--Sunjumper 15:39, 26 September 2009 (EDT)

Here. His toy was from the Classic series which is part of the G1 continuity family. - Starfield 16:08, 26 September 2009 (EDT)

Only problem is, i can't add anything because the page is protected.--Sunjumper 15:53, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

To Die Game!

I'm just wondering why has my addition of the "To Die Game!" fiction been removed? Are we making a separate page for the Silver Alternity Prime or something? --Ascendron 23:22, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

For unknown reasons, we appear to be putting the red auto-avatar on this page, and the silver one on his G1 cartoon continuity subpage, where the Binaltech stories reside. I can sort of see why, but I also think it's going to confuse a lot of folks.--Rosicrucian^Talk 23:25, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Ah, I see... Maybe we should add a note at the end of the Alternity section then? Something along the lines of "Alternity beings are both individuals and a collective of separate entities. More fiction about Optimus Prime's Alternity collective can be found here." And link to the other section where there's more fiction on him? --Ascendron 23:30, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

It was my understanding that the red one was specifically G1 Optimus Prime, and the silver one was a distinct Prime that's of the Alternity collective. So, yeah, the silver one wouldn't go on this page. --ItsWalky 00:29, 16 October 2009 (EDT)

Actually, they're both G1 Prime. Specifically, the silver one is Binaltech Optimus Prime.--Rosicrucian^Talk 01:10, 16 October 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, the Silver Prime is specifically G1-cartoon Optimus Prime, hailing from the branched-off Binaltech timeline, so I put his exploits on that article. The red one is from Primax 109.0 Beta, so he shouldn't go on the cartoon continuity page, if you see what I mean. It is, of course, entirely possible that we'll get more Primes and Megatrons down the line, too, who would all go under the basic "Alternity" header of the main character page, unless they were specifically from another pre-existing universe. The addition of a note is a good idea. Alternity is... complicated to write up, I think. - Chris McFeely 05:58, 16 October 2009 (EDT)

It certainly does strain our fiction writeup method when multiple characters are not only all the same guy (IE all Optimus Prime) but all the same guy from the same continuity family. Yeah, from an in-universe perspective an alternate universe is an alternate universe, but our continuity family grouping of character articles makes it especially tricky.--Rosicrucian^Talk 21:57, 18 October 2009 (EDT)

Do an [[Optimus Prime (Alternity)]] (possibly Convoy, since it's Japanese exclusive) and redirect from both here and any other pages (like the G1toon page) to that with Main article: tags; then split that page by universe-of-origin with explanation where necessary. They're simultaneously merged into one and distinct from each other, yes?

(Since it's not only multiversal, but - with Elita Seven - there are already non G1 characters, it's not really GEEWUN, per se) -Mammalian Verisimilitude 22:41, 18 October 2009 (EDT)

If we were to do that, it wouldn't need a parenthetical. The article would reside at [[Masterlord Convoy]], as he already has an English name that's distinct from Optimus Prime's Japanese name.--Rosicrucian^Talk 22:45, 18 October 2009 (EDT)

Transformer with three modes?

Prime is in the Transformers with three modes category. I'm trying to think what version of him has three modes. Do we count the Powermaster Prime's super robot as a third mode? - Starfield 11:34, 22 January 2010 (EST)

Going down the list, it looks like Star Convoy is the main reason. He has robot, truck and base modes without a separate cab robot. --Tigerpaw28 12:47, 22 January 2010 (EST)

Of course. I didn't realize he didn't have a trailer. - Starfield 12:55, 22 January 2010 (EST)

New statue/bust

A newly solicited Powermaster Optimus bust describes as follows..."As depicted in the Transformers: Armada animated series, Power Master Optimus shed his merged form and went on to sacrifice himself to defeat Unicron and save all of mankind." It's Diamond Select/Art Asylum, but more importantly, what the hell does that mean for the continuity? Previews April 2010 edition, page 371. Hida Atarasi 00:47, 18 April 2010 (EDT)

It means that whoever wrote that solicitation copy doesn't know what they're talking about? --KilMichaelMcC 01:04, 18 April 2010 (EDT)

Is a Previews considered an official source? Is this gonna be another microcontinuity entry? I'd be tickled pink if the Armada franchise got tacked onto G1 because of a badly written ad selling a bust that, as likely as not these days, could get cancelled. Hida Atarasi 18:07, 18 April 2010 (EDT)

Battle Convoy

Just curious, in Japan is "Battle Convoy" (Laser Optimus Prime) a different guy? - Starfield 10:15, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

Not according to the G-2 comics and story pages. Convoy was changed into Battle Convoy by the Reconfiguration Matrix. --Xaaron 10:22, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

Taiwanese names

They were both added by TX55. So you'll have to ask him just what exactly the difference is. —Interrobang 07:14, 21 February 2011 (EST)

Ongoing

Could someone update Prime's appearances in the IDW ongoing fiction please? The current page is at least 5 issues behind the times. Durge 11:46, 9 March 2011 (EST)

And why can't you do it? --Khajidha 12:00, 9 March 2011 (EST)

Perhaps he is himself five or more issues behind the times, and his reason for wanting the section updated is so he'll know what's going on? --Andrusi 14:41, 9 March 2011 (EST)

Because I suck at this editing lark and half of what I put up gets taken down for not being good enough. I'd rather a wiki veteran could do it and get it right for those who might just be starting with ongoing and need to know whats happened thus far with prime specifically then for me to put up a half arsed summary that isn't any good to anyone. This is G1 Optimus' page, rookies like me aren't usually welcome. Durge 12:12, 16 March 2011 (EDT)

IDW comics continuity

Can someone edit Optimus Prime's comic continuity? It's way behind

IDW Optimus timeline

So how does all of Optimus Prime's early chronology fit together? We've got:

• Megatron Origin (Unnamed)
• Spotlight: Blurr (Optimus)
• All Hail Megatron #13 (...?)
• Chaos Theory (Orion Pax)
• Autocracy (Orion Pax)

Chaos Theory must come first, because it takes place during the reign of Nominus Prime. Then Megatron Origin and Autocracy take place during the times of Sentinel Prime and Zeta Prime, respectively, so that progression is clear. Now comes the hard parts.

In Autocracy, Optimus is working alongside Ironhide, which means the flashback from All Hail Megatron #13 where they first met must take place earlier. But in that issue, Optimus recalls that from the very first, Ironhide thought he was some punk "who didn't deserve to call himself Prime". That implies Optimus was already Optimus Prime in #13. This could possibly be ignored as a turn of phrase -- after all, in the flashback itself he is never directly called "Optimus", "Prime", or even "Orion Pax".

Spotlight: Blurr is trickier. If Autocracy is going to chronicle the fall of Zeta Prime and the rise of Optimus Prime, as it seems bound to do, that means the Spotlight must take place first. But Kup calls him Optimus, and he should be known as Orion Pax during this timeframe.

Is the best way to build a chronology to ignore any reference to Optimus Prime's current name (and body-type) and just base things on surrounding events, or is there some way to legitimately tie this all together? --Xaaron 08:38, 4 April 2012 (EDT)

Brain has melted. Cannot compute.––Mojotron 11:12, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

Intro

At this point, it seems a little ridiculous to note every single incarnation that's slightly different. Optimus Prime is going to show up everywhere, and the resulting text is turning into an ugly tumor. Saix (talk) 08:19, 13 July 2017 (EDT)

In fact, I'm not sure why the "split into three components" gobbleygook is even there, because it's never shown up in real fiction. Saix (talk) 08:27, 13 July 2017 (EDT)

Another split?

I've started to notice how slow the main page is to load and save when editing and I feel it's probably not just me having this issue.

I was taking a look at what we could possibly look into, in terms of making another split to help relieve our poor browsers for the next little while and the Games section is the one I think could be a good place to start. Any thoughts?

Also, feel free to bring up any other ideas. I did look at the fiction section, since it is the obvious monster that is slowing everything down, but I can't see any other continuities that could be considered large enough to split out, unless we wanna try the IDW2 stuff in another year or so?

It's obviously not an urgent thing, just thought it might be something worth looking into. Fanofcoolstuff27 (talk) 08:59, 14 July 2021 (EDT)

Games makes sense, although I think the PS2 game should be on the cartoon continuity page since it's clearly based on it. Saix (talk) 11:07, 14 July 2021 (EDT)

I noticed that the Games section is missing a lot of info. I don't think there should be a split until most, if not all, of the information is added. --GobotsFanForever (talk) 16:55, 6 October 2021 (EDT)

Yet another suggestion for a split

Maybe there can be a separate page for the IDW crossover continuities? --GobotsFanForever (talk) 10:39, 6 October 2021 (EDT)

Not that I think this makes real sense, but surely it'd be better to do all crossovers instead of just IDW? Saix (talk) 17:50, 6 October 2021 (EDT)

Perhaps but I was thinking just the IDW ones because they are at least loosely affiliated. But yeah, adding all of them would be more efficient. --GobotsFanForever (talk) 18:01, 6 October 2021 (EDT)

Missing Item

Hi, please forgive the formatting, I'm new to the Wiki. I've just noticed a Diamond Select Toys bust from around 2007 does not have an entry. I can verify it's real as I have one, purchased through my local comic shop, back when it came out years ago in the 2000's. Here's a link to an article on it from TFW2005 where it talks about it getting downsized, and indeed, the version I have is a typical small minibust size. They did Megatron too, and you've got his listed, but not Prime's. I don't know how to put together the paragraph on it, but here's the link with the article confirming its being released in downsized form. https://news.tfw2005.com/2007/01/09/14-optimus-prime-head-replica-cancelled-replaced-with-mini-bust-5795 and even better, here it's actual Previewsworld solicitation listing, showing it had a RRP of $50USD, and it's release date of May 31 2007. https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/AUG064290

Hope that helps someone, as it really does deserve a mention. KJ_81

Star Convoy to Star Optimus Prime

So now that we have an "official" localization for the Star Convoy form (and it logically follows on from English terminology we use), shouldn't we be switching the two names now? Saix (talk) 23:33, 2 July 2025 (EDT)