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'''''Transformers: Robots in Disguise''''' is a Transformers [[Franchises|franchise]] that launched in the year [[2001]]. It was an American port of the [[2000]] Japanese Transformers series '''''Transformers: Car Robots''''' (トランスフォーマー カーロボット). The franchise was the first full-on [[Continuity|reboot]] series in ''Transformers'' history on both sides of the globe, which caused a heck of a ruckus among the [[fandom]] when it was new. Since then, however, it has faded into relative obscurity.
'''''Transformers: Robots in Disguise''''' is a [[Franchises|franchise]] that launched in the year [[2001]]. The first full-on [[Continuity|reboot]] series in ''Transformers'' history, it caused a heck of a ruckus in the [[fandom]] when it was new. Since then, however, it has faded into relative obscurity.


Taking place on [[Earth]] at the turn of the century, the series follows [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] (or "Fire Convoy") and his Autobots (or "Cybertrons") protecting the planet and its long-lost Cybertronian artifacts from the ambitions of the evil [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]] (or "Gigatron") and his [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]]s (or "Destrongers").
Taking place on [[Earth]] at the turn of the century, the series follows [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] and his Autobots protecting the planet and its long-lost Cybertronian artifacts from the ambitions of the evil [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]] and his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]]s.


In-universe, the ''Robots in Disguise'' continuity is referred to as "[[Viron]]" in the [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTechs]]' [[universal stream]] designators... but ''Car Robots'' is not. We'll explain that below.
In-universe, the ''Robots in Disguise'' [[continuity family]] is referred to as "[[Viron]]" in the [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTechs]]' [[universal stream]] designators.


The ''Robots in Disguise'' franchise featured the following primary components:
The ''Robots in Disguise'' franchise features the following primary components:


*[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|A toyline]]
*[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|A toyline]]
*[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|A cartoon series]]
*[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|A cartoon series]] imported wholesale from [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] markets (more on that shortly).
*[[Ultra Magnus...to the Rescue?|A single American comic book story]] by [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] (produced after the series ended production) set in the same continuity as the cartoon series.
*[[Ultra Magnus...to the Rescue?|A single American comic book story]] produced by [[Dreamwave Productions]] in [[2004]] (a few years after the cartoon ended production).


Due to [[retcon]]s by the Facebook edition of [[Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime]], the franchise is also tied to:
Due to [[retcon]]s by the Facebook edition of [[Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime]], the franchise also encompasses:
*[[Transformers: Dinobots|Another toyline which is composed of Dinobots]]<ref>[[Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#May 29, 2015|Ask Vector Prime, 29/05/2015]]</ref>
*[[Transformers: Dinobots|Another toyline]] composed entirely of six [[Dinobot (Dinobots)|Dinobots]].<ref>[[Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#May 29, 2015|Ask Vector Prime, 29/05/2015]]</ref>
*[[Shell Game|Another American comic book story]]<ref>[[Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#July 29, 2015|Ask Vector Prime, 29/07/2015]]</ref>
*[[Shell Game|Another American comic book story]] produced by [[3H Productions]] for [[OTFCC 2004]].<ref>[[Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#July 29, 2015|Ask Vector Prime, 29/07/2015]]</ref>


==History==
==Japanese release==
[[File:Car Robots logo.jpg|left|300px]]
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The series's original incarnation, ''Car Robots'', was created in response to the continually-declining sales of [[TakaraTomy|Takara's]] ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' toyline. As [[Hasbro]] moved into ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'', Takara opted instead to start anew—and tap into nostalgia as well—by bringing back the traditional modern Earth vehicle heroes with the classic [[Autobot]] big red face [[insignia|faction symbol]]. However, the villains of the series did not follow suit; while "Destronger" leader "Gigatron" was an all-new toy mold, his lackeys were all [[redeco]]ed [[Transmetal 2]] molds that had been developed for ''Beast Wars'', and the team was given the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] symbol as had the villains from the prior shows. Further villain reinforcements, the [[Decepticon#2001 Robots in Disguise cartoon|Combatrons]], were even older molds based on modern Earth vehicles, but got a black, upside-down ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' Autobot symbol... apparently due to Takara's unwillingness to [[retool]] one of the toys to remove the faction symbol from it.
The series's original incarnation, '''''Transformers: Car Robots''''' (トランスフォーマー カーロボット), was created in response to the declining sales of [[TakaraTomy|Takara's]] ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' toylines and their displeasure with Hasbro's unorthodox design methods for the high concept ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Machines]]''<ref>''[[Transformers Beast Wars: Beast Generations]]'', p. 121</ref>. Takara opted instead to tap into nostalgia by bringing back the traditional modern Earth vehicle heroes with the classic red face [[insignia|Autobot symbol]]. The villains of the series did not follow suit as Takara decided to more or less stay the course charted by the likes of ''[[Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers#Beast Wars II|Beast Wars II]]'' and ''[[Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers#Beast Wars Neo|Neo]]'' with a show-stopping new flagship mold for series villain "[[Megatron (RID)|Gigatron]]" while his lackeys were composed of an eclectic mix of [[redeco]]es culled from prior ''Beast Wars'', ''Generation 2,'' and even ''Generation 1'' toylines.


A year later in America, Hasbro decided it was time to end the [[Beast Era]] (which was also flagging in sales). Hasbro and Takara began work to co-develop the next series intended for both markets, ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', but Hasbro refused to not have ''Transformers'' toys on the shelves despite ''Beast Machines'' under-performing. Thus, they quickly ported over ''Car Robots'', re-branding it as ''Robots in Disguise'', as a low-cost, low-work "filler" line. While the animalistic bad guys retained the Predacon logo (and faction name), all of the bad guys who turned into Earth vehicles got the traditional Decepticon emblem. Hasbro even expanded the product offerings with more redecos and minor retools of older molds, including a few previously-canceled ones. (Takara, meanwhile, apparently had no qualms about letting almost two years pass with no kid-aimed ''Transformers'' toys on the shelves.)
Set on [[Earth]] at the turn of the century, ''Car Robots'' follows a "[[Dimensional Patrol|Dimensional Patrol unit]]" led by [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] protecting the planet and its long-lost Cybertronian artifacts from the ambitions of the evil Gigatron and his new "[[Predacon (BW)#Japanese Generation 1 continuity|Destronger]]" faction.


Where ''Car Robots'' sputtered in Japan, ''Robots in Disguise'' took off with a roar in America, thanks in no small part to the cartoon airing on the popular [[Fox Kids]] programming block.
What exactly that *means* was the subject of [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)#The continuity kerfuffle|no small amount of confusion]], but to skip to the end, ''Car Robots'' is the final Japan-exclusive season of the behemoth [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]], with a cast composed of all new characters, having time-traveled from the distant future some time after the events of ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (cartoon)|Beast Wars Neo]]''.


===The continuity kerfuffle===
As it turns out, nostalgia marketing for fifteen-year-old cartoons does not work on nine-year-olds, and the Transformers brand closed the decade on a whimper in Japan, lying fallow with the core demographic until 2003's radical reimagining with ''Legends of the Microns'', Takara's version of ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]''.
To put it bluntly, the continuity placement of the original ''Car Robots'' version of the series has been a point of contention within the fandom, particularly in the West.  


When the first [https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16590450 television promo] for ''Car Robots'' aired immediately after the [[Remix: I Lost the Banana!|final episode]] of ''Beast Wars Metals'', said promo featured [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] thanking the [[Maximal]] Beast Warriors for preserving [[Earth]]'s history and promising to keep the modern day safe from the Destrongers.<ref>Though, this information was largely lost on larger English-speaking world due to a lack of widespread knowledge that this obscure promo had even existed, let alone what was said in its Japanese dialogue.</ref> Preliminary information found on [https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/carobot/index.html TVTokyo's website] described ''Car Robots'' as "The next great entry in the ''[[Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers|Super Lifeforms Transformers: Beast Wars]]'' series" and even referred to the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] of previous series by name. Said site and the [https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/150486-car-robots-robots-in-disguise-2001-general-discussion/page-3#entry3747453 first toy catalog] also claimed the Destrongers had come to the 21st century through a dimensional rift, with Fire Convoy's team being a "[[Dimensional Patrol]]" sent to oppose them. The catalog even described the series premise as "[[Diaclone#Car Robots|Car Robots]] versus [[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]". Coupled with the [[Battle Protocol!|first episode]] featuring a celebration for the new millennium, setting it in the year [[2000]], all this led to initial speculation that the series would be set in the [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|existing Japanese ''Transformers'' continuity]], during the at-the-time unexplored gap between the second season of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] and [[The Transformers: The Movie|its movie]], with the ''Car Robots'' cast having time-traveled from the future à la ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]''.
==Development==
A year later in America, Hasbro decided it was time to end the [[Beast Era]] (which was also flagging in sales). Hasbro and Takara began work to co-develop the next series intended for both markets, ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Transformers: Armada]]'', but Hasbro refused to have no ''Transformers'' toys on the shelves despite ''Beast Machines'' under-performing. Thus, they quickly ported over ''Car Robots'', re-branding it as ''Robots in Disguise'', a low-cost, low-work "filler" line. While the animalistic villains retained the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] logo (and faction name), all of the villains who turned into Earth vehicles received the traditional [[Decepticon]] emblem. Hasbro took to Takara's grab bag approach like a fish to water, expanding the product offerings with more redecos and minor retools of older molds, including a few previously canceled ones.


As the series continued, however, it began to feel more like a fresh start, presenting itself as a self-contained story isolated from everything that had come before it.<ref>Granted, the [[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars II'' cartoon]] was similarly isolated and self-contained, but the appearance of [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] in both its first toy catalog and [[Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!|its movie]] made it easier for fans to accept it as part of the existing timeline.</ref> There were no obvious ties or references to the Generation 1 cartoon that it apparently was set within contemporaneously,<ref>Though, the [[Cybertron Base (RID)|Autobots' base]] and [[Global Space Bridge|underground transit system]] were strikingly similar to ones first introduced in [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 4|Issue #4]] of the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (manga)|''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' manga]]; a series that not many Westerners were familiar with at the time.</ref> no guest appearances from any Generation 1 characters (who, logically, ought to have noticed the globally Earth-based conflict of Fire Convoy and Gigatron's forces),<ref>Even the similarly self-contained [[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|''Super-God Masterforce'' cartoon]] had a brief guest cameo appearance from [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] in its [[Birth! Headmaster Jrs|third episode]].</ref> and Fire Convoy's team took a more covert role in their relationship with humanity, using their vehicle modes to hide themselves when not in battle, unlike the Generation 1 Autobots who regularly interacted with humans in their robot modes. What's more, none of the early information about the characters being time travelers was ever brought up in the show (save for one brief moment in [[The Ultimate Robot Warrior|episode 12]] where Fire Convoy vaguely hinted at having come from another time), with virtually no indication of the cast being anything but native to the year 2000.
Declining to attempt to endear American children to ''Car Robots''<nowiki>'</nowiki> cast of unfamiliar characters, Hasbro took a page from the book of the nascent ''Armada'' treatment and styled them as new incarnations of the familiar [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (disambiguation)|Megatron]], and friends, give or take the unavoidably eclectic mix of antagonist factions baked into the line. Hasbro handed off translation to [[Saban Entertainment]], who produced a fairly liberal reimagining for Western markets per the style of dubbing for children's anime on American broadcast television at the time, landing a spot on the coveted [[Fox Kids]] Saturday morning block.


Thus, fans began to reconsider the series' original continuity placement and wondered if it might instead be an alternate universe—a sort of continuity reboot—dismissing the early time-traveling info as mere rumors or dropped concepts (or simply never knowing about it in the first place). But, as this thinking persisted, ''Car Robots'' entered its second half and had ''finally'' begun to do some actual world-building by introducing [[Energon Matrix|concepts]] and [[Vector Sigma#Japanese cartoon continuity|lore]] originally from ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]'' and ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (cartoon)|Beast Wars Neo]]'', two Japanese series that the greater Western fandom had only sparse knowledge of at the time. Those who did catch these new references (and ''hadn't'' fully dismissed the original continuity speculation) theorized if maybe the cast of ''Car Robots'' had come from a future set after ''Beast Wars Neo''. But, the more vocal fandom [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers#JBWchronology|(mis)belief]] of ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' taking place chronologically before ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' challenged and attempted to [http://web.archive.org/web/20121116084945/http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=490 quell] this theory.
Where ''Car Robots'' sputtered as the last gasp of the original franchise in Japan, ''Robots in Disguise'' took off with a roar in America, thanks in no small part to riding the wave at the height of the American anime boom alongside such titans as ''Pokémon'' and ''Dragon Ball Z''.


Fueling the fire further was the fact that, when ''Car Robots'' was brought over to the West as ''Robots in Disguise'', the cartoon's English dub was ''absolutely'' treated as a reboot by its production team (though, likely based on the same fandom belief in the first place). New leaders Fire Convoy and Gigatron were reimagined as new versions of [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (disambiguation)|Megatron]], the entire cast of original characters were given different English names (mixing [[Prowl (RID)|familiar]] [[Grimlock (RID 2001)|names]] [[Mirage (RID)|taken]] [[Scourge (RID)|from]] Generation 1 with [[Midnight Express (RID)|several]] [[Dark Scream|brand]] [[Hot Shot (RID)|new]] [[Ruination (RID)|names]]), and episode scripts were written in ways that made the dub completely irreconcilable with [[Marvel Comics continuity|either of the major]] [[Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hasbro-backed Generation 1 continuities]]. This caused no end of confusion among the fandom since, at the time, the idea of a total continuity reboot in ''Transformers'' was still new and took some time to settle in. Unhelpful to these matters further were the English dub adding in numerous references to concepts and characters from Generation 1, ''Beast Wars'', and ''Beast Machines'' (which typically made things even ''less'' compatible), and the toyline having two characters from prior series ([[Axer (G1)|Axer]] and [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]]) whose toy bios described them as actually crossing dimensions into this new continuity.  
==The continuity kerfuffle==
[[File:Convoy and Fire Convoy.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.4|[[:File:PrimalLioConvoyCatalog01.jpg|History repeats itself]].]]
To put it bluntly, the continuity placement of the original Japanese ''Car Robots'' version of the series has been a point of contention within the fandom, particularly in the West.  


Eventually, the fandom got used to the idea of this series (both its English ''and'' Japanese versions) being on its own, helped along when ''Armada'' would similarly reboot the continuity one year after ''Robots in Disguise'' in the West and three whole years after ''Car Robots'' in Japan. This tactic of starting things over every year is common in long-running Japanese franchises, but had not yet been applied to ''Transformers''. Subsequent series would later follow suit, creating more and more non-Generation 1 continuities with each new reboot, making ''Car Robots''/''Robots in Disguise'' less of an anomaly and more acceptable as just the first of many non-Generation 1 cartoons to come about after the Beast Era.
===Early materials & initial impressions===
In its original broadcast on Japanese television, ''Car Robots'' was the final installment in a series of five ''Transformers'' cartoons that aired consecutively on [[TV Tokyo]] from [[1997]] to [[2000]]. Beginning with the first season of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)#Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers|Beast Wars]]'', this five-series run aired undisrupted on a weekly basis,<ref group="note">Barring two delays from December holidays in 1997 and 1998 that, respectively, pushed back [[The Trigger, Part 1|one episode]] of ''Beast Wars'' to air a week later back-to-back with the [[The Trigger, Part 2|next episode]], and shifted the last four episodes of ''Beast Wars II'' (and thus every episode of the next three series) back one week.</ref> continuing directly into ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]'', ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (cartoon)|Beast Wars Neo]]'', ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)#Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Metals|Beast Wars Metals]]'', and finally ''Car Robots''. The first four series' final episodes each ended with a short promo that previewed the next series in the line, as if each show was one part of a larger ongoing series of interconnected shows. The [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeCFOaGt2q0 promo] for ''Car Robots'' aired immediately after the [[Remix: I Forgot the Banana!|final episode]] of ''Beast Wars Metals'', and featured [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] thanking the [[Maximal]] Beast Warriors for preserving [[Earth]]'s history and promising to keep the modern day safe from the Destrongers.<ref group="note">This information was largely lost on larger English-speaking world due to a lack of widespread knowledge that this obscure promo had even existed, let alone what was said in its Japanese dialogue.</ref>


''BUT THEN...''
The series' synopsis found on [https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/carobot/index.html TV Tokyo's website] described ''Car Robots'' as "A new entry in the popular ''[[Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers|Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars]]'' series" and even mentioned by name the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] of old. Said site and the [http://web.archive.org/web/20200526192751/https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/150486-car-robots-robots-in-disguise-2001-general-discussion/page-3#entry3747453 first toy catalog] also claimed the Destrongers had come to the 21st century through a dimensional rift, with the catalog calling them "an extremist group of the Destron race" ("Destron" referring to the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] of the [[Beast Era]]). The catalog also referred to Fire Convoy's team as a "[[Dimensional Patrol|Dimensional Patrol unit]]" sent to stop the Destrongers, and even described the series premise as "[[Autobot Cars|Car Robots]] versus [[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]". Plus, while not known at the time, early concept art for Fire Convoy (released publicly via ''[[Transformers Generations 2015]]'') depicted him with a [[Maximal]] symbol instead of an Autobot one.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=So i was looking up the contents of a book i've got on the way when i stumbled onto this interesting piece of concept art included in the 2015 Generations book that appears to show a closer link between Beast Wars with Fire Convoy having a Maximal symbol. https://t.co/wyzrkAX0vS|link=https://twitter.com/walruslaw/status/1488875871847043072|name=walruslaw|site=Twitter|year=2022|month=02|day=02|(defunct=)}}</ref><ref>[https://twitter.com/20thDan/status/1488930036539281410 20thDan on Twitter], with higher-quality versions of the artwork, originally posted by [[Hisashi Yuki]] in a since-deleted [https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/early-sketch-of-fire-convoy-from-designer-hisashi-yuki/32617/ Tweet].</ref> Coupled with the [[Battle Protocol!|first episode]] featuring a celebration for the new millennium (setting it in the year [[2000]]), all this led to initial speculation that the series would be set within the [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity|preexisting Japanese ''Transformers'' continuity]], during the at-the-time unexplored gap between the second season of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] and [[The Transformers: The Movie|its movie]], with the ''Car Robots'' cast having time-traveled from the future à la ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]''.


In [[2004]], the first hints of clarity turned up in the ''[[Robotmasters (franchise)|Robotmasters]]'' series. Created to celebrate the [[Transformers brand|brand]]'s 20th anniversary, ''Robotmasters'' featured a big crossover between Generation 1, ''Beast Wars'', and more, with lots of characters time-traveling to the year 2004 of the Japanese Generation 1 cartoon universe via [[Blasty Zone|dimensional rifts]]. One character in this series, an amnesiac Deception named Wrecker Hook, shared the same toy mold and Japanese name as ''Car Robots'' Wrecker Hook, known in ''Robots in Disguise'' as the Autobot [[Tow-Line (RID)|Tow-Line]]. At the time, it was not clear if the Decepticon Wrecker Hook was meant to be the Autobot Wrecker Hook/Tow-Line having switched sides, but even if he was, there still lay the possibility of his coming from another dimension, since [[Sideways (RM)|another suspected dimension-hopper]] was also part of the line.<ref>Though, a closer examination of the ''Robotmasters'' toy bios and fiction reveals that the only characters who came through the Blasty Zone were just the time-traveling ones from ''Beast Wars'', ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (franchise)|Victory]]'', and ''Beast Wars II''; not Wrecker Hook.</ref>
As the series continued, however, it began to feel less like a part of the preexisting continuity and more like a fresh start, presenting itself as a self-contained story isolated from everything that had come before it,<ref group="note">The [[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars II'' cartoon]] was similarly isolated and self-contained, but the appearance of [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] in both its first toy catalog and [[Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!|its movie]] made it easier for fans to accept it as part of the preexisting continuity.</ref> with no obvious ties or references to the Generation 1 cartoon whose second and third seasons ''Car Robots'' was, ostensibly, supposed to be set between.<ref group="note">Although, the [[Cybertron Base (RID)|Autobots' base]] and [[Global Space Bridge|underground transit system]] were strikingly similar to ones first introduced in [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 4|Issue #4]] of the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (manga)|''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' manga]]; a series that not many Westerners were familiar with at the time.</ref> There were no guest appearances from any Generation 1 characters (who, logically, ought to have noticed the globally Earth-based conflict of Fire Convoy and Gigatron's forces),<ref group="note">Even the similarly self-contained [[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|''Super-God Masterforce'' cartoon]] at least had a brief guest cameo appearance from [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] in its [[Birth! Headmaster Jrs|third episode]].</ref> and Fire Convoy's team took a more covert role in their relationship with humanity, using their vehicle modes to keep themselves incognito when not in battle, unlike the Generation 1 Autobots who regularly interacted with humans in their robot modes both on and off duty.<ref group="note">Though, Fire Convoy's team had no qualms whatsoever with showing their robot modes to humanity whenever their battles took place in cities or other populated areas.</ref> In fact, none of the early information about the characters being time travelers was ever brought up in the show, with almost no indication of the cast being anything but native to the year 2000 (save for one extremely brief moment in [[The Ultimate Robot Warrior|Episode 12]] that many fans did not catch, wherein Fire Convoy vaguely hinted at having originally come from another time).<ref group="note">Upon finding the first [[O-Part]] of the series, Fire Convoy recognized what it was and questioned how it could possibly "exist during this time," as if both he and the O-Part were not native to the series' present time.</ref> The Destrongers being a radical group of rogue Destrons was never mentioned either. Thus, fans began to reconsider the series' original continuity placement and wondered if it might instead be an alternate universe—a sort of continuity reboot—dismissing the early time-traveling info as mere rumors or dropped concepts (or simply never knowing about it in the first place).  


Also in the ''Robotmasters'' line was a rerelease of the ''Car Robots'' [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Brave Maximus]] toy, offered as a contest prize and renamed "Cybertron Base" (a name not too dissimilar to the name of its city mode in the ''Car Robots'' cartoon, "Cybertron City"). But since Brave Maximus/Cybertron Base did not actually feature in any ''Robotmasters'' fiction, his inclusion in the line via this contest was largely ignored by the Western fandom. Also in this year, the toy bio of the [[e-HOBBY]]-[[exclusive]] [[G1 GoBots]] set made explicit reference to the [[Spy Changer|Spychangers]] of ''Car Robots'' in a way that tied them directly to their toy mold predecessors, the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]]. While the characters in this set would never be used by Japanese media, the Spychanger reference was but a small glimpse of much bigger things to come.<ref>[https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/89376-united-ex-translated-stories-and-bios-complete/page-15#entry2198052 Post by Andrew Hall on The Allspark]</ref>  
On the other hand, ''Car Robots'' also never actually made a concerted effort to ''explicitly'' separate itself from everything that had come before it, either. At most, it maintained a largely ''indifferent'' relationship with the greater Japanese continuity... '''''at first'''''. As the series moved into its second half, it ''finally'' started to do some actual continuity-based world-building, reintroducing concepts and lore originally from ''Beast Wars II'' (the [[Energon Matrix]]), ''Beast Wars Neo'' ([[Vector Sigma#Japanese cartoon continuity|Vector Sigma]] as the God of the Transformers), ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)#Transformers: The Headmasters|The Headmasters]]'' ([[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Brave Maximus]] being controlled by a "[[Headmaster (technology)|Head On]] System") and even the American ''Beast Wars'' cartoon (a [[Cyber Falcon-type spaceship|spaceship]] based directly on the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' containing [[protoform]]-filled [[stasis pod]]s). At the time, the greater Western fandom still had very limited knowledge about the various Japanese-original ''Transformers'' series, and thus weren't privy to all of these references. But those residing in Japan who'' did'' catch these references (and ''hadn't'' fully dismissed the original shared-continuity speculation) postulated if maybe the cast of ''Car Robots'' had come from the future-set [[Beast Era]], specifically around the time of ''Beast Wars Neo''. But, the more vocal [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers#JBWchronology|fandom perception]] that ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' took place chronologically before ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' challenged this theory and [http://web.archive.org/web/20121116084945/http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=490 attempted to silence it.] <ref group="note">Even though ''Beast Machines'' had not yet reached Japan by that point, and thus wasn't yet a factor in the Japanese continuity until its belated release in 2004.</ref>


[[File:Japaneseflowchart.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|This has only gotten MORE complicated since its publication.]]
And then...
In 2007, Takara surprised the Western fandom by directly clarifying ''Car Robots''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s place in continuity. The ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' series had begun a time-jumping story with the series' protagonists traveling aboard Brave Maximus, the very same one from ''Car Robots''. One of their jumps even took them to the first episode of ''Car Robots'' without any dimension-hopping, only time-hopping. The series even ended with Brave Maximus crash-landing on [[Master (planet)|Planet Master]] at a ppint in time set before the planet's refugee inhabitants had developed the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster technology]], with Brave Maximus's wreckage providing the catalyst for not just the technology but also the construction of the physically identical [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]. Other print media and even [[World of the Transformers|a new website]] then produced a long, [[Source:Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|highly detailed timeline]] that mapped out just how the hell this all worked.


Yes, Takara had stuck to the original claims of the preliminary series info by officially declaring ''Car Robots'' to have been part of the massive, sprawling Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity all along,  hand-waving the cartoon's lack of previous-series Transformers appearing on Earth by utilizing the abrupt ending of a [[Transformers: The Battle of the Star Gate|short-lived, rather obscure Generation 1-based manga]] first published in [[2003]]. Said manga took place in the latter 1990s and ended, ''very conveniently'', with virtually the entire Generation 1 cast getting swept away from Earth in a huge [[space bridge]] accident. With much of the fandom having grown used to the idea of ''Car Robots'' being as much a reboot as ''Robots in Disguise'', this revelation was initially met with startled reaction; many fans even wrote it off as a nonsensical [[retcon]]. Regardless, [[Transformers Legends (comic)|subsequent]] [[Transformers Unite Warriors|Japanese media]] would adhere to this decision, leaning ''into'' the once-quashed idea of the ''Car Robots'' cast hailing from a future point set around the time of ''Beast Wars Neo''.
===The English version===
[[File:RiD Cartoon Intro Title.JPG|thumb|upright=1.15|left|The version that the majority of Westerners were most familiar with.]]
When ''Car Robots'' was brought over to the West as ''Robots in Disguise'', the cartoon's English dub was ''absolutely'' treated as a reboot by its production team (though, likely based on the same fandom belief in the first place). New leaders Fire Convoy and Gigatron were reimagined as new versions of [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (disambiguation)|Megatron]], respectively, the entire cast of original characters were given different English names (mixing [[Prowl (RID)|familiar]] [[Grimlock (RID 2001)|names]] [[Mirage (RID)|taken]] [[Scourge (RID)|from]] Generation 1 with [[Midnight Express (RID)|several]] [[Dark Scream|brand]] [[Hot Shot (RID)|new]] [[Ruination (RID)|names]]), and episode scripts were written in ways that made the dub completely incompatible with either of the two major, Hasbro-backed [[Marvel Comics continuity|Generation 1]] [[Generation 1 cartoon continuity|continuities]] of the 20th century.


''BUT'', with all of ''THAT'' said and sorted out...
Muddying the waters further was the English dub's tendency to namedrop numerous references to concepts and characters from Generation 1, ''Beast Wars'', and ''Beast Machines'' (which typically made things even ''less'' compatible), as well as the expanded Hasbro toyline featuring toys of [[Axer (G1)#Robots in Disguise (2001)|Axer]] and [[Optimus Primal (BW)/toys#Robots in Disguise (2001)|Optimus Primal]] (whose toy bios strongly insinuated that they were the very ''same'' [[Axer (G1)|Axer]] and [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] as those originally from Generation 1 and ''Beast Wars''/''Beast Machines'', respectively). This caused no end of confusion among most of the Western fandom since, at the time, the idea of a total continuity reboot in ''Transformers'' was still very new and took some time to settle in.  


Hasbro, on the other side of the pond, had '''NO''' such plans to align the English version with any of this. To this day, the ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon remains its own little separate, distinctly non-Generation 1 thing, and Hasbro has shown little inclination to revive its characters or concepts; most of the callbacks have come from licensees [[Fun Publications]] and [[IDW Publishing]], but a ''few'' characters and ideas have persisted in toy form from Hasbro proper. Thus, ''Car Robots''/''Robots in Disguise'' is in the unique position of being simultaneously part of Generation 1 and completely separate from Generation 1... depending on which side of the globe you're looking at.
[[File:Universe 3 Oracle Omega Prime.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.45|In [[Homecoming (Universe)|''Universe'' #3]], [[Omega Prime]] is summoned to the [[Beast Wars timeline (3H)|G1/Beast Era reality]] from the alternate universe of ''Robots in Disguise''.]]
Some fans even attempted to theorize how ''Robots in Disguise'' could fit into a combined timeline of the English-language Generation 1, ''Beast Wars'', and ''Beast Machines'' cartoons, jumping through hoops to explain how most of the characters with Generation 1-based names could be the same people as their namesakes via body-changes (like [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|Ultra Magnus]] becoming [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]), or how those with new names could later become familiar G1 characters via body- ''and'' name-changes (like [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]] becoming [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]). Other fans even theorized if ''Robots in Disguise'' could have been the result of ''Beast Wars'' having changed the timeline of Generation 1's history. Of course, these fan theories were going off the English dub due to its easier accessibility in the West, ignoring the fact that the characters in the Japanese ''Car Robots'' version were all originally brand new characters with mostly brand new names and no inherent ties to any prior series' characters (which, interestingly, ''would'' allow the ''Car Robots'' version to "fit in" better than the English version).


In order to keep things simple for readers and cut back on redundancies, '''{{SITENAME SHORT}}''' has opted to roll ''Car Robots'' character and cartoon information into the ''Robots in Disguise'' counterparts' pages. Just know that any ''Robots in Disguise'' character who appears in the "[[:Category: Car Robots characters]]" category has a nigh-identical Generation-1-timeline doppelganger with a different name who did pretty much all the same stuff in the cartoon, only they did it all in a Generation 1 timeline. Though some modern Western fiction has introduced ''distinctly'' Generation 1 versions of ''Robots in Disguise'' characters—such as [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]], [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]], and [[Megatron (RID)|Gigatron]]—these versions of the characters are all covered on the same pages as their ''Robots in Disguise'' counterparts since, it turns out, the original ''Car Robots'' versions that started it all were originally Generation 1 characters anyway.
Eventually, the fandom grew used to the idea of this series (both its English ''and'' Japanese versions) being on its own, unconnected to any other series, helped along when ''Armada'' would unquestionably reboot ''Transformers'' continuity one year after ''Robots in Disguise'' in the West and three whole years after ''Car Robots'' in Japan. This tactic of starting things over every year is common in several long-running Japanese franchises, but had not yet been applied to ''Transformers'' until this point. Subsequent series would later follow suit, creating more and more non-Generation 1 continuities with each new reboot, making ''Car Robots''/''Robots in Disguise'' appear as less of an anomaly and more acceptably understood as just the first of many non-Generation 1 cartoons to come about after the [[Beast Era]].


Head hurt yet? GOOD!
This would later be reflected in such [[multiverse|multiversal]] series like ''[[Transformers: Universe (comic)|Transformers: Universe]]'' and ''[[Transformers Timelines (fiction)|Transformers: Timelines]]'', in which characters from ''Robots in Disguise'' were depicted as hailing from alternate universes different from those of Generation 1/''Beast Wars''/''Beast Machines''. ''Timelines'' and [[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|related works]] would even further distinguish the worlds of ''Robots in Disguise'' from Generation 1 by designating those of ''RID'' as part of the "[[Viron]]" cluster of universes, while G1 worlds were of the "[[Primax]]" cluster, in the [[universal stream]] system.


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And thus, all things seemed to mostly make sense.
 
'''''BUT THEN...'''''
 
===Takara builds the Japanese G1 timeline===
In [[2003]]—three years after ''Car Robots'' had run its course in Japan—Takara released a new set of [[redeco]]s for the ''Car Robots'' [[Spychanger]] toys in a small toyline called ''[[The Transformers: Super Spychanger Lottery]]''. While [[pack-in material]] for this line indicated these toys represented the same Spychangers from the cartoon at a point set after the [[The Final Battle (RID)|final episode]], the line was branded not with Takara's ''Car Robots'' logo but instead with Hasbro's original [[The Transformers (franchise)|Generation 1]] logo from [[1984]]–[[1988]]. Though many fans found this quite puzzling at the time, the contemporaneous Japanese lines of [[Generation 1 reissues]]—''[[The Transformers: Collector's Edition]]'', ''[[The Transformers Collection]]'', and ''[[The Transformers: Micromaster]]''—all likewise made use of this Hasbro G1 logo. A year later, [[2004]]'s ''[[Robotmasters (franchise)|Robotmasters]]'' series provided further hints regarding the placement of ''Car Robots'' in Japanese continuity. In celebration of the [[Transformers brand|brand's]] 20th anniversary, this series featured a big crossover event between Generation 1, ''Beast Wars'', and more, with characters time-traveling to the year 2004 through a set of dimensional rifts known as the [[Blastizone]].
 
[[File:RobotMasters relation chart.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.35|''Robotmasters'' [[Tow-Line (RID)|Wrecker Hook]] did not come through the [[Blastizone]].]]
One character in this series, an amnesiac Decepticon named Wrecker Hook, shared the same toy mold and Japanese name as ''Car Robots'' Wrecker Hook (known in ''Robots in Disguise'' as the Autobot [[Tow-Line (RID)|Tow-Line]]). At the time, it was not clear if the Decepticon Wrecker Hook was meant to be the Autobot Wrecker Hook/Tow-Line having switched sides, but even if he was, there still remained speculation over whether or not he had come from another dimension, since [[Sideways (RM)|another character in the line]] was also [[Circular reporting#Sideways|suspected to be a dimension-hopper]]. However, a closer examination of the ''Robotmasters'' toy bios and fiction reveals that the only characters who came through the Blastizone were just the time-traveling ones from ''Beast Wars'', ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'', and ''Beast Wars II''; not Wrecker Hook.<ref group="note">And '''not''' [[Sideways (RM)|Double Face]], either. [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers#Robotmasters|There was never any dimension-hopping in ''Robotmasters'']].</ref>
 
Also in the ''Robotmasters'' line was a rerelease of the ''Car Robots'' [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Brave Maximus]] toy, offered as a contest prize and renamed "Cybertron Base" (a name not too dissimilar to the name of its city mode in the ''Car Robots'' cartoon: "Cybertron City").<ref group="note">Note that "Cybertron City" is also the Japanese name as [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]].</ref> But since Brave Maximus/Cybertron Base did not actually feature in any ''Robotmasters'' fiction (barring a single vague mention in the first [[The New Battle Begins!|catalog comic]] that a "great fortress" served as the core of [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]]), his inclusion in the ''Robotmasters'' line was largely ignored by the Western fandom. Also released in this year was the [[e-HOBBY]]-[[exclusive]] [[G1 GoBots]] set, whose toy bio made explicit reference to the [[Spychanger]]s of ''Car Robots'' in a way that tied them directly to their toy mold predecessors, the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]]. While the characters in this set would never be used in Japanese media, the Spychanger reference was but a small glimpse of much bigger things yet to come.<ref>[https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/89376-united-ex-translated-stories-and-bios-complete/page-15#entry2198052 Post by Andrew Hall on The Allspark] (dead link)</ref>
 
In [[2005]], the ''[[The Transformers: Binaltech Asterisk|Binaltech Asterisk]]'' line featured human figures packed in with new toys of Generation 1 Autobots; two of these figures ([[Ai Kuruma]] and [[Kelly (RID)#Toys|Junko Shiragami]]) were based on the ''Car Robots'' characters [[T-AI|Ai]] and [[Kelly (RID)|Junko]] (known in ''Robots in Disguise'' as "T-AI" and "Kelly", respectively). While Ai Kuruma was definitely not the same person as Ai/T-AI (since the latter was a hologram, not a human), it was not quite known if Junko Shiragami was supposed to be ''the'' Junko/Kelly from ''Car Robots'' or just an homage to her (like how Ai Kuruma was to Ai/T-AI).<ref group="note">Though, both of their ''Binaltech Asterisk'' toy bios had some vague but notable hints that seemed to imply some kind of relation to their ''Car Robots'' namesakes: Ai's bio alluded to a supposed history between her and the Transformers that somehow existed before she had even met them (seemingly in reference to ''Car Robots'' Ai resembling her likeness), while Junko's bio stated that she loves to take long drives but has had no luck with cars for a long time (much like ''Car Robots'' Junko's bad luck with always running into Transformer activity that often led to the destruction of many of her automobiles).</ref> The latter notion soon began to seem more likely when a third human figure, [[Lumina Hoshi]], was released as a new character who, like Ai Kuruma, was merely an homage to another preexisting character (in this case, [[Illumina]] from ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)#Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory|Victory]]''). However, little did anyone in the West realize at the time that these little hints were all just the tip of the iceberg.
 
[[File:Japaneseflowchart.jpg|thumb|upright=1.8|This has only gotten MORE complicated since its publication.]]
By [[2006]]–[[2007]], Takara surprised the Western fandom by directly clarifying ''Car Robots''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s place in continuity. The ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' series featured a storyline in which the series' protagonists traveled through time aboard Brave Maximus, the very same one from ''Car Robots''. One of their jumps even took them to the first episode of ''Car Robots'' without any dimension-hopping, only time-hopping. The story later saw Brave Maximus get thrown far back in time to crash-land on [[Master (planet)|Planet Master]], at a point set before the planet's refugee inhabitants had developed the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster technology]]; Brave Maximus's wreckage ended up providing the catalyst for not just the technology but also the construction of the physically similar [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]. The story's conclusion even featured the creation of Brave Maximus on Earth in the distant past, finally explaining how and why he was first seen hidden deep within the Earth back in ''Car Robots''. Other [[Autorooper#AutorooperXAtari|print]] [[Kiss Players/15 Go! Go!|media]] released at the time even produced a long, [[Source:Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|highly detailed timeline]] that mapped out just how the hell this all worked.
 
Essentially, Takara had stuck to the original claims of the series' preliminary info by officially declaring ''Car Robots'' to have been part of the massive, sprawling [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]] all along, hand-waving the cartoon's lack of previous-series Transformers appearing on Earth by utilizing the ending of a short-lived, somewhat obscure Generation 1 [[manga]] mini-series first published in [[2003]] (but notably written and drawn by [[Naoto Tsushima]], the very same man who wrote and drew the aforementioned ''Robotmasters'' series the following year, ''and'' illustrated the [[Asterisk Story|''Binaltech Asterisk'' manga]] in 2006). Titled ''[[Transformers: The Battle of the Star Gate]]'', this mini-series took place in the latter 1990s and ended, practically ''on purpose'', with virtually the entire Generation 1 cast completely disappearing from Earth after a cataclysmic battle in space, and not returning until a few years later, allowing ''Car Robots'' to ''conveniently'' slot right into the year 2000 while the Generation 1 characters were gone.
 
With much of the fandom having already grown used to the idea of ''Car Robots'' being as much of a reboot as ''Robots in Disguise'' by that point in time, this revelation was initially met with quite the startled reaction; many even wrote it off as a nonsensical [[retcon]].<ref group="note">A [[2015]] ''[[Ask Vector Prime]]'' [[Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#July 19, 2015|Facebook entry]] even attempted to provide a "quantum-babble" explanation for how the events of ''Car Robots'' came to take place in the Japanese G1 universe, which leaned into the idea of it having indeed been a retcon instead of the original intention for ''Car Robots'' all along.</ref> Regardless, [[Transformers Legends (comic)|subsequent]] [[Transformers Unite Warriors|Japanese media]] would adhere to this decision, leaning ''into'' the once-quelled idea of the ''Car Robots'' cast originally hailing from a future set at some time near that of ''Beast Wars Neo''. The aforementioned ''Robotmasters'' Wrecker Hook and ''Binaltech Asterisk'' Junko would even be confirmed to be the same characters as their ''Car Robots'' counterparts in [[2013]]'s "[[Metrowars]]" and [[2016]]'s ''[[Unite Warriors Offshot]]'', respectively.
 
In the end, it appears that, from Takara's perspective, ''Car Robots'' really was always meant to be part of this larger Japanese G1 universe. It's just that the cartoon itself did such a ''really'' lackadaisical job of actually making that clear; most likely because Takara felt that it simply went without saying, and weren't aware that the fandom felt otherwise. And because it wasn't as obvious as Takara thought, it took all these extra efforts made after the fact to help ''Car Robots'' feel more inclusively like a part of Japanese G1, but to ''very'' mixed results.
 
'''''BUT''''', even with all of '''''THAT''''' said and sorted out...
 
===East vs. West===
Hasbro, on the other side of the pond, has shown '''NO''' such plans to align the English version with any of this (which is for the better). To this day, the 2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon remains its own little separate, distinctly non-Generation 1 thing, and Hasbro has shown little inclination to revive its characters or concepts; most of the callbacks have come from licensees [[Fun Publications]] and [[IDW Publishing]], but a ''few'' characters and ideas have persisted in toy form from Hasbro proper. Thus, ''Car Robots''/''Robots in Disguise'' is in the unique position of being simultaneously part of and completely separate from Generation 1... depending on which side of the globe you're looking at.
 
In order to keep things simple for readers and cut back on redundancies, '''{{SITENAME SHORT}}''' has opted to roll ''Car Robots'' character and cartoon information into the ''Robots in Disguise'' counterparts' pages. Just know that any ''Robots in Disguise'' character who appears in the "[[:Category: Car Robots characters|''Car Robots'' characters]]" category has a nigh-identical Generation-1-timeline doppelganger with a different name who did pretty much all the same stuff in the cartoon, only they did it all in a Generation 1 timeline. Though some modern Western fiction has introduced ''distinctly'' Generation 1 versions of ''Robots in Disguise'' characters—such as [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]], [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]], and [[Megatron (RID)|Gigatron]]—these versions of the characters are all covered on the same pages as their ''Robots in Disguise'' counterparts since, it turns out, the original ''Car Robots'' versions that started it all were all originally Generation 1 characters anyway!
 
Head hurt yet? '''''GOOD!!'''''


==Notes==
==Notes==
*Despite [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers|fan rumors]] to the contrary, ''Car Robots'' was never called and was never ''going'' to be called "Transformers 2000".
[[File:Diaclone Car Robots logo.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|Both versions of ''Diaclone''{{'}}s ''Car Robots'' logo.]]
*"Car Robots" is also the original name of the [[Autobot Cars]] (including [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Toys|Optimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Toys|Ultra Magnus]]) in the ''[[Diaclone]]'' toyline.
[[File:Car Robots G1 OP Cross-sell.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|How do you do, fellow new toys?]]
* That retro gimmick we mentioned goes more than skin deep. ''Car Robots'' is so named for the original ''Car Robots'' (カーロボット) [[subline imprint]] of the [[pre-Transformer|pre-''Transformers'']] ''[[Diaclone]]'' franchise from which we receive the original [[1984]]-[[1985]] assortment of [[Autobot Cars]], along with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#The Transformers|Optimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#The Transformers|Ultra Magnus]].
* When asked about the ''Diaclone'' angle, TakaraTomy designer [[Hironori Kobayashi]] explained that their driving philosophy for the line was to recreate the original Car Robots from first principles with then-modern (read: ''Beast Wars'') technology.<ref>Interview with Kobayashi in ''[[Transformers Generations 2015]]''</ref>
* The ''[[Car Robots Encyclopedia]]'' equated the two directly, telling the kids of [[2000]] that the Car Robots had been defending the Earth for a ''loooong'' time before Fire Convoy's crew came along, and gave them a brief out-of-universe rundown of vintage ''Diaclone'' in an elaborate cross-sell for the contemporaneous [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#2000rerelease|Generation 1 Optimus Prime reissue]].
* If this seems like a lot of fuss for the [[Autobot Brothers]] specifically, it bears mentioning ''Car Robots''{{'}} wider orbit in the ''Diaclone'' line accounts for the remaining new-mold Autobots in the form of the heroic train and construction vehicle combiners that became [[1987]]'s [[Trainbot#Toys|Trainbots]] and 1984's [[Constructicon (G1)#Toys|Constructicons]] respectively.


==References==
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==External links==
==External links==
*[https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/carobot/index.html TV Tokyo's original website for the ''Car Robots'' cartoon]
*[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/table.html Takara's Transformers Continuity Map places ''Car Robots'' in Generation 1.]
*[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/table.html Takara's Transformers Continuity Map places ''Car Robots'' in Generation 1.]


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The name or term "Robots in Disguise" refers to more than one character or idea. For a list of other meanings, see Robots in Disguise (disambiguation).
Robots in Disguise (2001)

Transformers: Robots in Disguise is a franchise that launched in the year 2001. The first full-on reboot series in Transformers history, it caused a heck of a ruckus in the fandom when it was new. Since then, however, it has faded into relative obscurity.

Taking place on Earth at the turn of the century, the series follows Optimus Prime and his Autobots protecting the planet and its long-lost Cybertronian artifacts from the ambitions of the evil Megatron and his Predacons.

In-universe, the Robots in Disguise continuity family is referred to as "Viron" in the TransTechs' universal stream designators.

The Robots in Disguise franchise features the following primary components:

Due to retcons by the Facebook edition of Ask Vector Prime, the franchise also encompasses:

Japanese release

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Japanese G1 continuity
« Car Robots »

The series's original incarnation, Transformers: Car Robots (トランスフォーマー カーロボット), was created in response to the declining sales of Takara's Beast Wars toylines and their displeasure with Hasbro's unorthodox design methods for the high concept Beast Machines[3]. Takara opted instead to tap into nostalgia by bringing back the traditional modern Earth vehicle heroes with the classic red face Autobot symbol. The villains of the series did not follow suit as Takara decided to more or less stay the course charted by the likes of Beast Wars II and Neo with a show-stopping new flagship mold for series villain "Gigatron" while his lackeys were composed of an eclectic mix of redecoes culled from prior Beast Wars, Generation 2, and even Generation 1 toylines.

Set on Earth at the turn of the century, Car Robots follows a "Dimensional Patrol unit" led by Fire Convoy protecting the planet and its long-lost Cybertronian artifacts from the ambitions of the evil Gigatron and his new "Destronger" faction.

What exactly that *means* was the subject of no small amount of confusion, but to skip to the end, Car Robots is the final Japan-exclusive season of the behemoth Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity, with a cast composed of all new characters, having time-traveled from the distant future some time after the events of Beast Wars Neo.

As it turns out, nostalgia marketing for fifteen-year-old cartoons does not work on nine-year-olds, and the Transformers brand closed the decade on a whimper in Japan, lying fallow with the core demographic until 2003's radical reimagining with Legends of the Microns, Takara's version of Armada.

Development

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A year later in America, Hasbro decided it was time to end the Beast Era (which was also flagging in sales). Hasbro and Takara began work to co-develop the next series intended for both markets, Transformers: Armada, but Hasbro refused to have no Transformers toys on the shelves despite Beast Machines under-performing. Thus, they quickly ported over Car Robots, re-branding it as Robots in Disguise, a low-cost, low-work "filler" line. While the animalistic villains retained the Predacon logo (and faction name), all of the villains who turned into Earth vehicles received the traditional Decepticon emblem. Hasbro took to Takara's grab bag approach like a fish to water, expanding the product offerings with more redecos and minor retools of older molds, including a few previously canceled ones.

Declining to attempt to endear American children to Car Robots' cast of unfamiliar characters, Hasbro took a page from the book of the nascent Armada treatment and styled them as new incarnations of the familiar Optimus Prime, Megatron, and friends, give or take the unavoidably eclectic mix of antagonist factions baked into the line. Hasbro handed off translation to Saban Entertainment, who produced a fairly liberal reimagining for Western markets per the style of dubbing for children's anime on American broadcast television at the time, landing a spot on the coveted Fox Kids Saturday morning block.

Where Car Robots sputtered as the last gasp of the original franchise in Japan, Robots in Disguise took off with a roar in America, thanks in no small part to riding the wave at the height of the American anime boom alongside such titans as Pokémon and Dragon Ball Z.

The continuity kerfuffle

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History repeats itself.

To put it bluntly, the continuity placement of the original Japanese Car Robots version of the series has been a point of contention within the fandom, particularly in the West.

Early materials & initial impressions

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In its original broadcast on Japanese television, Car Robots was the final installment in a series of five Transformers cartoons that aired consecutively on TV Tokyo from 1997 to 2000. Beginning with the first season of Beast Wars, this five-series run aired undisrupted on a weekly basis,[note 1] continuing directly into Beast Wars II, Beast Wars Neo, Beast Wars Metals, and finally Car Robots. The first four series' final episodes each ended with a short promo that previewed the next series in the line, as if each show was one part of a larger ongoing series of interconnected shows. The promo for Car Robots aired immediately after the final episode of Beast Wars Metals, and featured Fire Convoy thanking the Maximal Beast Warriors for preserving Earth's history and promising to keep the modern day safe from the Destrongers.[note 2]

The series' synopsis found on TV Tokyo's website described Car Robots as "A new entry in the popular Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars series" and even mentioned by name the Great War of old. Said site and the first toy catalog also claimed the Destrongers had come to the 21st century through a dimensional rift, with the catalog calling them "an extremist group of the Destron race" ("Destron" referring to the Predacons of the Beast Era). The catalog also referred to Fire Convoy's team as a "Dimensional Patrol unit" sent to stop the Destrongers, and even described the series premise as "Car Robots versus Beast Wars". Plus, while not known at the time, early concept art for Fire Convoy (released publicly via Transformers Generations 2015) depicted him with a Maximal symbol instead of an Autobot one.[4][5] Coupled with the first episode featuring a celebration for the new millennium (setting it in the year 2000), all this led to initial speculation that the series would be set within the preexisting Japanese Transformers continuity, during the at-the-time unexplored gap between the second season of the Generation 1 cartoon and its movie, with the Car Robots cast having time-traveled from the future à la Beast Wars.

As the series continued, however, it began to feel less like a part of the preexisting continuity and more like a fresh start, presenting itself as a self-contained story isolated from everything that had come before it,[note 3] with no obvious ties or references to the Generation 1 cartoon whose second and third seasons Car Robots was, ostensibly, supposed to be set between.[note 4] There were no guest appearances from any Generation 1 characters (who, logically, ought to have noticed the globally Earth-based conflict of Fire Convoy and Gigatron's forces),[note 5] and Fire Convoy's team took a more covert role in their relationship with humanity, using their vehicle modes to keep themselves incognito when not in battle, unlike the Generation 1 Autobots who regularly interacted with humans in their robot modes both on and off duty.[note 6] In fact, none of the early information about the characters being time travelers was ever brought up in the show, with almost no indication of the cast being anything but native to the year 2000 (save for one extremely brief moment in Episode 12 that many fans did not catch, wherein Fire Convoy vaguely hinted at having originally come from another time).[note 7] The Destrongers being a radical group of rogue Destrons was never mentioned either. Thus, fans began to reconsider the series' original continuity placement and wondered if it might instead be an alternate universe—a sort of continuity reboot—dismissing the early time-traveling info as mere rumors or dropped concepts (or simply never knowing about it in the first place).

On the other hand, Car Robots also never actually made a concerted effort to explicitly separate itself from everything that had come before it, either. At most, it maintained a largely indifferent relationship with the greater Japanese continuity... at first. As the series moved into its second half, it finally started to do some actual continuity-based world-building, reintroducing concepts and lore originally from Beast Wars II (the Energon Matrix), Beast Wars Neo (Vector Sigma as the God of the Transformers), The Headmasters (Brave Maximus being controlled by a "Head On System") and even the American Beast Wars cartoon (a spaceship based directly on the Axalon containing protoform-filled stasis pods). At the time, the greater Western fandom still had very limited knowledge about the various Japanese-original Transformers series, and thus weren't privy to all of these references. But those residing in Japan who did catch these references (and hadn't fully dismissed the original shared-continuity speculation) postulated if maybe the cast of Car Robots had come from the future-set Beast Era, specifically around the time of Beast Wars Neo. But, the more vocal fandom perception that Beast Wars II and Neo took place chronologically before Beast Machines challenged this theory and attempted to silence it. [note 8]

And then...

The English version

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The version that the majority of Westerners were most familiar with.

When Car Robots was brought over to the West as Robots in Disguise, the cartoon's English dub was absolutely treated as a reboot by its production team (though, likely based on the same fandom belief in the first place). New leaders Fire Convoy and Gigatron were reimagined as new versions of Optimus Prime and Megatron, respectively, the entire cast of original characters were given different English names (mixing familiar names taken from Generation 1 with several brand new names), and episode scripts were written in ways that made the dub completely incompatible with either of the two major, Hasbro-backed Generation 1 continuities of the 20th century.

Muddying the waters further was the English dub's tendency to namedrop numerous references to concepts and characters from Generation 1, Beast Wars, and Beast Machines (which typically made things even less compatible), as well as the expanded Hasbro toyline featuring toys of Axer and Optimus Primal (whose toy bios strongly insinuated that they were the very same Axer and Optimus Primal as those originally from Generation 1 and Beast Wars/Beast Machines, respectively). This caused no end of confusion among most of the Western fandom since, at the time, the idea of a total continuity reboot in Transformers was still very new and took some time to settle in.

In Universe #3, Omega Prime is summoned to the G1/Beast Era reality from the alternate universe of Robots in Disguise.

Some fans even attempted to theorize how Robots in Disguise could fit into a combined timeline of the English-language Generation 1, Beast Wars, and Beast Machines cartoons, jumping through hoops to explain how most of the characters with Generation 1-based names could be the same people as their namesakes via body-changes (like Ultra Magnus becoming Ultra Magnus), or how those with new names could later become familiar G1 characters via body- and name-changes (like Side Burn becoming Hot Rod). Other fans even theorized if Robots in Disguise could have been the result of Beast Wars having changed the timeline of Generation 1's history. Of course, these fan theories were going off the English dub due to its easier accessibility in the West, ignoring the fact that the characters in the Japanese Car Robots version were all originally brand new characters with mostly brand new names and no inherent ties to any prior series' characters (which, interestingly, would allow the Car Robots version to "fit in" better than the English version).

Eventually, the fandom grew used to the idea of this series (both its English and Japanese versions) being on its own, unconnected to any other series, helped along when Armada would unquestionably reboot Transformers continuity one year after Robots in Disguise in the West and three whole years after Car Robots in Japan. This tactic of starting things over every year is common in several long-running Japanese franchises, but had not yet been applied to Transformers until this point. Subsequent series would later follow suit, creating more and more non-Generation 1 continuities with each new reboot, making Car Robots/Robots in Disguise appear as less of an anomaly and more acceptably understood as just the first of many non-Generation 1 cartoons to come about after the Beast Era.

This would later be reflected in such multiversal series like Transformers: Universe and Transformers: Timelines, in which characters from Robots in Disguise were depicted as hailing from alternate universes different from those of Generation 1/Beast Wars/Beast Machines. Timelines and related works would even further distinguish the worlds of Robots in Disguise from Generation 1 by designating those of RID as part of the "Viron" cluster of universes, while G1 worlds were of the "Primax" cluster, in the universal stream system.

And thus, all things seemed to mostly make sense.

BUT THEN...

Takara builds the Japanese G1 timeline

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In 2003—three years after Car Robots had run its course in Japan—Takara released a new set of redecos for the Car Robots Spychanger toys in a small toyline called The Transformers: Super Spychanger Lottery. While pack-in material for this line indicated these toys represented the same Spychangers from the cartoon at a point set after the final episode, the line was branded not with Takara's Car Robots logo but instead with Hasbro's original Generation 1 logo from 19841988. Though many fans found this quite puzzling at the time, the contemporaneous Japanese lines of Generation 1 reissuesThe Transformers: Collector's Edition, The Transformers Collection, and The Transformers: Micromaster—all likewise made use of this Hasbro G1 logo. A year later, 2004's Robotmasters series provided further hints regarding the placement of Car Robots in Japanese continuity. In celebration of the brand's 20th anniversary, this series featured a big crossover event between Generation 1, Beast Wars, and more, with characters time-traveling to the year 2004 through a set of dimensional rifts known as the Blastizone.

Robotmasters Wrecker Hook did not come through the Blastizone.

One character in this series, an amnesiac Decepticon named Wrecker Hook, shared the same toy mold and Japanese name as Car Robots Wrecker Hook (known in Robots in Disguise as the Autobot Tow-Line). At the time, it was not clear if the Decepticon Wrecker Hook was meant to be the Autobot Wrecker Hook/Tow-Line having switched sides, but even if he was, there still remained speculation over whether or not he had come from another dimension, since another character in the line was also suspected to be a dimension-hopper. However, a closer examination of the Robotmasters toy bios and fiction reveals that the only characters who came through the Blastizone were just the time-traveling ones from Beast Wars, Victory, and Beast Wars II; not Wrecker Hook.[note 9]

Also in the Robotmasters line was a rerelease of the Car Robots Brave Maximus toy, offered as a contest prize and renamed "Cybertron Base" (a name not too dissimilar to the name of its city mode in the Car Robots cartoon: "Cybertron City").[note 10] But since Brave Maximus/Cybertron Base did not actually feature in any Robotmasters fiction (barring a single vague mention in the first catalog comic that a "great fortress" served as the core of Autobot City), his inclusion in the Robotmasters line was largely ignored by the Western fandom. Also released in this year was the e-HOBBY-exclusive G1 GoBots set, whose toy bio made explicit reference to the Spychangers of Car Robots in a way that tied them directly to their toy mold predecessors, the Generation 2 Go-Bots. While the characters in this set would never be used in Japanese media, the Spychanger reference was but a small glimpse of much bigger things yet to come.[6]

In 2005, the Binaltech Asterisk line featured human figures packed in with new toys of Generation 1 Autobots; two of these figures (Ai Kuruma and Junko Shiragami) were based on the Car Robots characters Ai and Junko (known in Robots in Disguise as "T-AI" and "Kelly", respectively). While Ai Kuruma was definitely not the same person as Ai/T-AI (since the latter was a hologram, not a human), it was not quite known if Junko Shiragami was supposed to be the Junko/Kelly from Car Robots or just an homage to her (like how Ai Kuruma was to Ai/T-AI).[note 11] The latter notion soon began to seem more likely when a third human figure, Lumina Hoshi, was released as a new character who, like Ai Kuruma, was merely an homage to another preexisting character (in this case, Illumina from Victory). However, little did anyone in the West realize at the time that these little hints were all just the tip of the iceberg.

This has only gotten MORE complicated since its publication.

By 20062007, Takara surprised the Western fandom by directly clarifying Car Robots's place in continuity. The Kiss Players series featured a storyline in which the series' protagonists traveled through time aboard Brave Maximus, the very same one from Car Robots. One of their jumps even took them to the first episode of Car Robots without any dimension-hopping, only time-hopping. The story later saw Brave Maximus get thrown far back in time to crash-land on Planet Master, at a point set before the planet's refugee inhabitants had developed the Headmaster technology; Brave Maximus's wreckage ended up providing the catalyst for not just the technology but also the construction of the physically similar Fortress Maximus. The story's conclusion even featured the creation of Brave Maximus on Earth in the distant past, finally explaining how and why he was first seen hidden deep within the Earth back in Car Robots. Other print media released at the time even produced a long, highly detailed timeline that mapped out just how the hell this all worked.

Essentially, Takara had stuck to the original claims of the series' preliminary info by officially declaring Car Robots to have been part of the massive, sprawling Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity all along, hand-waving the cartoon's lack of previous-series Transformers appearing on Earth by utilizing the ending of a short-lived, somewhat obscure Generation 1 manga mini-series first published in 2003 (but notably written and drawn by Naoto Tsushima, the very same man who wrote and drew the aforementioned Robotmasters series the following year, and illustrated the Binaltech Asterisk manga in 2006). Titled Transformers: The Battle of the Star Gate, this mini-series took place in the latter 1990s and ended, practically on purpose, with virtually the entire Generation 1 cast completely disappearing from Earth after a cataclysmic battle in space, and not returning until a few years later, allowing Car Robots to conveniently slot right into the year 2000 while the Generation 1 characters were gone.

With much of the fandom having already grown used to the idea of Car Robots being as much of a reboot as Robots in Disguise by that point in time, this revelation was initially met with quite the startled reaction; many even wrote it off as a nonsensical retcon.[note 12] Regardless, subsequent Japanese media would adhere to this decision, leaning into the once-quelled idea of the Car Robots cast originally hailing from a future set at some time near that of Beast Wars Neo. The aforementioned Robotmasters Wrecker Hook and Binaltech Asterisk Junko would even be confirmed to be the same characters as their Car Robots counterparts in 2013's "Metrowars" and 2016's Unite Warriors Offshot, respectively.

In the end, it appears that, from Takara's perspective, Car Robots really was always meant to be part of this larger Japanese G1 universe. It's just that the cartoon itself did such a really lackadaisical job of actually making that clear; most likely because Takara felt that it simply went without saying, and weren't aware that the fandom felt otherwise. And because it wasn't as obvious as Takara thought, it took all these extra efforts made after the fact to help Car Robots feel more inclusively like a part of Japanese G1, but to very mixed results.

BUT, even with all of THAT said and sorted out...

East vs. West

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Hasbro, on the other side of the pond, has shown NO such plans to align the English version with any of this (which is for the better). To this day, the 2001 Robots in Disguise cartoon remains its own little separate, distinctly non-Generation 1 thing, and Hasbro has shown little inclination to revive its characters or concepts; most of the callbacks have come from licensees Fun Publications and IDW Publishing, but a few characters and ideas have persisted in toy form from Hasbro proper. Thus, Car Robots/Robots in Disguise is in the unique position of being simultaneously part of and completely separate from Generation 1... depending on which side of the globe you're looking at.

In order to keep things simple for readers and cut back on redundancies, TFWiki.net has opted to roll Car Robots character and cartoon information into the Robots in Disguise counterparts' pages. Just know that any Robots in Disguise character who appears in the "Car Robots characters" category has a nigh-identical Generation-1-timeline doppelganger with a different name who did pretty much all the same stuff in the cartoon, only they did it all in a Generation 1 timeline. Though some modern Western fiction has introduced distinctly Generation 1 versions of Robots in Disguise characters—such as Sky-Byte, Side Burn, and Gigatron—these versions of the characters are all covered on the same pages as their Robots in Disguise counterparts since, it turns out, the original Car Robots versions that started it all were all originally Generation 1 characters anyway!

Head hurt yet? GOOD!!

Notes

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Both versions of Diaclone's Car Robots logo.
How do you do, fellow new toys?
  • That retro gimmick we mentioned goes more than skin deep. Car Robots is so named for the original Car Robots (カーロボット) subline imprint of the pre-Transformers Diaclone franchise from which we receive the original 1984-1985 assortment of Autobot Cars, along with Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus.
  • When asked about the Diaclone angle, TakaraTomy designer Hironori Kobayashi explained that their driving philosophy for the line was to recreate the original Car Robots from first principles with then-modern (read: Beast Wars) technology.[7]
  • The Car Robots Encyclopedia equated the two directly, telling the kids of 2000 that the Car Robots had been defending the Earth for a loooong time before Fire Convoy's crew came along, and gave them a brief out-of-universe rundown of vintage Diaclone in an elaborate cross-sell for the contemporaneous Generation 1 Optimus Prime reissue.
  • If this seems like a lot of fuss for the Autobot Brothers specifically, it bears mentioning Car Robots' wider orbit in the Diaclone line accounts for the remaining new-mold Autobots in the form of the heroic train and construction vehicle combiners that became 1987's Trainbots and 1984's Constructicons respectively.

References

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  1. Ask Vector Prime, 29/05/2015
  2. Ask Vector Prime, 29/07/2015
  3. Transformers Beast Wars: Beast Generations, p. 121
  4. "So i was looking up the contents of a book i've got on the way when i stumbled onto this interesting piece of concept art included in the 2015 Generations book that appears to show a closer link between Beast Wars with Fire Convoy having a Maximal symbol. https://t.co/wyzrkAX0vS"—walruslaw, Twitter, 2022/02/02
  5. 20thDan on Twitter, with higher-quality versions of the artwork, originally posted by Hisashi Yuki in a since-deleted Tweet.
  6. Post by Andrew Hall on The Allspark (dead link)
  7. Interview with Kobayashi in Transformers Generations 2015

Footnotes

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  1. Barring two delays from December holidays in 1997 and 1998 that, respectively, pushed back one episode of Beast Wars to air a week later back-to-back with the next episode, and shifted the last four episodes of Beast Wars II (and thus every episode of the next three series) back one week.
  2. This information was largely lost on larger English-speaking world due to a lack of widespread knowledge that this obscure promo had even existed, let alone what was said in its Japanese dialogue.
  3. The Beast Wars II cartoon was similarly isolated and self-contained, but the appearance of Optimus Primal in both its first toy catalog and its movie made it easier for fans to accept it as part of the preexisting continuity.
  4. Although, the Autobots' base and underground transit system were strikingly similar to ones first introduced in Issue #4 of the Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers manga; a series that not many Westerners were familiar with at the time.
  5. Even the similarly self-contained Super-God Masterforce cartoon at least had a brief guest cameo appearance from Chromedome in its third episode.
  6. Though, Fire Convoy's team had no qualms whatsoever with showing their robot modes to humanity whenever their battles took place in cities or other populated areas.
  7. Upon finding the first O-Part of the series, Fire Convoy recognized what it was and questioned how it could possibly "exist during this time," as if both he and the O-Part were not native to the series' present time.
  8. Even though Beast Machines had not yet reached Japan by that point, and thus wasn't yet a factor in the Japanese continuity until its belated release in 2004.
  9. And not Double Face, either. There was never any dimension-hopping in Robotmasters.
  10. Note that "Cybertron City" is also the Japanese name as Autobot City.
  11. Though, both of their Binaltech Asterisk toy bios had some vague but notable hints that seemed to imply some kind of relation to their Car Robots namesakes: Ai's bio alluded to a supposed history between her and the Transformers that somehow existed before she had even met them (seemingly in reference to Car Robots Ai resembling her likeness), while Junko's bio stated that she loves to take long drives but has had no luck with cars for a long time (much like Car Robots Junko's bad luck with always running into Transformer activity that often led to the destruction of many of her automobiles).
  12. A 2015 Ask Vector Prime Facebook entry even attempted to provide a "quantum-babble" explanation for how the events of Car Robots came to take place in the Japanese G1 universe, which leaned into the idea of it having indeed been a retcon instead of the original intention for Car Robots all along.
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