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I won't even start with editing the columns in [[Withered Hope]], but their labels of "Autobots, Maximals and Minicons" and "Decepticons" and "Others" are astoundingly rediculous. Perhaps they should be... Autobot, Decepticons, Maximals and others? Since Autobots, Deceptiocns and Maximals make up the three largest groups that appear in the fic? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:23, 5 November 2009 (EST) | I won't even start with editing the columns in [[Withered Hope]], but their labels of "Autobots, Maximals and Minicons" and "Decepticons" and "Others" are astoundingly rediculous. Perhaps they should be... Autobot, Decepticons, Maximals and others? Since Autobots, Deceptiocns and Maximals make up the three largest groups that appear in the fic? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:23, 5 November 2009 (EST) | ||
:That one has been discussed before and that is what was decided on. It may not be pretty but it works. Good guys/Bad guys theme. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (EST) | :That one has been discussed before and that is what was decided on. It may not be pretty but it works. Good guys/Bad guys theme. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (EST) | ||
::Reading the talk page I said one thing, ItsWalky said another, and that's it. Not even three opinions. So just asking, what do you think would be the best arrangement? I'm suggesting the change to Autobots, Decepticons, Maximals and Others, as those are the three largest groups and one left for everything else. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:54, 5 November 2009 (EST) | |||
Revision as of 01:54, 6 November 2009
You can link to an image without actually displaying an image by placing a colon (:) just before Image. Note: Hopefully I am addressing the right person this time. --FFN 01:50, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
- Yes, that was me. Thanks! - Starfield 08:43, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
Redirects
Seeing as every redirect you'd created for those toy names for the movie franchise is one that Geewunling later had me delete, I think we can safely say we don't need a redirect for every toy name.--RosicrucianTalk 20:13, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
- Deletes don't show up in my watchlist or I might have realized what was going on. Really? Movie toy name redirects? They must have been delete-able because I don't immediately recall making them. I don't think there should be redirects for every toy either, but I thought Roadbuster Ultra Magnus was kinda special. It isn't everyday there is a toy deco scheme named after a character (same for the disambig2 on the Roadbuster page). But if not, no biggie. - Starfield 20:31, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
- Ah. I didn't pay much attention to the others when deleting them, so if it wasn't you that made 'em my appologies. I just saw you making a new one and came to the wrong conclusion.--RosicrucianTalk 20:33, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
- OK. I don't think it was me. - Starfield 20:38, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
- Ah. I didn't pay much attention to the others when deleting them, so if it wasn't you that made 'em my appologies. I just saw you making a new one and came to the wrong conclusion.--RosicrucianTalk 20:33, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
Unreleased toys
Why don't you just... make the unreleased toys category a subcategory of things that don't exist? —Interrobang 23:54, 6 April 2009 (EDT)
- There are only a small number of characters with unreleased toys that don't exist at all. Most have other toys and/or exist in fiction. - Starfield 06:19, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
ROTF
The ROTF page should not be used to put up the latest news. There are questions regarding the details of the Constructicons in this movie, as I outlined in the confirmed news section. As such, we will be holding off on including seeming doubles (Scavenger), guys we never even heard of (Overload), and guys who have no official name yet ("The Doctor"). We'll wait for further information. --FFN 14:13, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
Breakdown/Brakedown
Actually, the full story is that we used to have Breakdown (disambig) which I disagreed with because we only had one Breakdown at the time and two Brakedowns. Also, while the names are alike, they are very much not the same. One can have a breakdown, but not a brakedown. One can push the brake(s) down, but not the break(s). Hence, I moved the page to Brakedown (disambig), got Breakdown (disambig) deleted and pulled Breakdown out of the main list, as well as making his page's disambig3 a disambig2 to the Brakedown (disambig) page. Then Breakdown (Titan) was created just before the crash and I intended to have another look at it. Then the crash happened. Brakedown (disambig) was restored, but so was Breakdown (disambig). I decided to just use what we had and make Breakdown alike to Brakedown, but keep them separated because they are not at all the same name, but close enough to justify linked disambig pages. I'm not much for an edit war and I think my decision could use a second opinion. Do you think they are better off merged or can/should I revert your edits? Geewunling 12:31, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
- I jumped to the wrong conclusion about the crash. Sorry I didn't discuss it first. Does "Brakedown" mean anything? Racing jargon? I guess that doesn't matter. Transformer names don't have to mean anything. Either way works. You can change it back. - Starfield 12:56, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
- It's okay, it is after all a bit of a weird situation with those names and as stated, I have my doubts on my solution. I opt to revert things though, because, yeah, unless anyone actually protests, Breakdown just stays not Brakedown to me. (And all I can say about the meaning of Brakedown is that it sounds very un-Stunticon-ish ^^) Geewunling 13:13, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
Rodimus
The source is useable for fiction purposes - it is out-of-cartoon info that is still explicitly part of the cartoon continuity. This same kind of facet was used on Warpath's article to fix it when we thought he was dead. The wording could be better served by a using it as a ref instead of "Wyatt said so", but it's just as valid as anything else.
For example
"Rodimus was taken out by Oil Slick's Cosmic Rust gel, but pulled through once recovered by the Elite Guard.<ref>Wyatt said so blah blah blah</ref>"
Its not a spoiler, since it's been released from an official source, and its just false to say "we don't know what happened to him". He survived, and we know it. That is a perfectly acceptable way of doing it.KrytenKoro 11:29, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
- First of all, you need a reference to where the information came from. Did he tell you personally in casual conversation? Is it on a blog? If it is on a blog, link to it. Second, the word of Wyatt, even in a blog, is not a valid source for new fictional events. It can be used to clarify something that was seen in fiction (was that Alpha Trion?) but it can't add a new event that was never depicted, such as Rodimus on the road to recovery. Read the article on Hail and Farewell for an example where a item on a blog was explicitly claimed to be canon but wasn't. - Starfield 11:46, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
PNG files
I would suggest you convert all the PNG files you have uploaded to JPG files, then ask for your PNG files to be deleted. There is no reason to use PNG files in these instances, for they are several times as large as equivalent JPGs. In fact, you appear to have ignored the warnings the Wiki software should have given you when you attempt to upload a file that is larger than 150KB. --FFN 11:14, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
- Check. - Starfield 11:15, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
- Yeah, our main use for PNGs is insignia, since that's one of the few places they're an advantage.--RosicrucianTalk 11:18, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
- Thanks, I don't upload many pics. - Starfield 11:20, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
- S'okay. I'm just wonky about it since I compiled our image policy.--RosicrucianTalk 11:23, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
- Yeah, it's okay. I am also wonky about this since I probably upload the most images on the wiki, and am really strict about how I do it, so I want everybody to follow my example, goshdarnit. --FFN 11:40, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
- Converting them to JPG gives them a black background (at least the way I do it). That should be OK. - Starfield 11:42, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
- Yeah, it's okay. I am also wonky about this since I probably upload the most images on the wiki, and am really strict about how I do it, so I want everybody to follow my example, goshdarnit. --FFN 11:40, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
- S'okay. I'm just wonky about it since I compiled our image policy.--RosicrucianTalk 11:23, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
- Thanks, I don't upload many pics. - Starfield 11:20, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
- Yeah, our main use for PNGs is insignia, since that's one of the few places they're an advantage.--RosicrucianTalk 11:18, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
Thanks
Thanks for your help on the movie articles, dood! --FFN 16:23, 5 May 2009 (EDT)
- Sorry? I could have done some of them. - Starfield 16:37, 5 May 2009 (EDT)
Categories in preview
You can actually see them in the preview. You just have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page. —Interrobang 23:46, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
- Cool. Thanks. - Starfield 23:47, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
"Purple motorcycle Autobot"
You don't need need to rush off and create every article you can. We can wait for them to reveal her name. --FFN 19:19, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
- It's OK. I don't mind. I don't think I was rushing. The comic she was in has been out for 6 weeks. - Starfield 19:25, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
Slow Down!
Before: Soudwave came with a overly sculpted missile that apears to represent Ravage in Transition form. He can't transform tough...bummer.
After: Soundwave comes with an intricately sculpted missile that appears to represent Ravage in transition form. He can't transform, though...bummer.
Don't rush; take all the time you need to proof yourself, please.--Apcog 16:02, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
The Veiled Threat articles
I would suggest you avoid basing the text of these articles so closely to the paragraphs in the book. I recognise the style of prose that comes from a novel (even if you didn't copy it word-for-word) and it is almost completely different from the usual style of writing on the wiki. --FFN 06:46, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
- I suppose I can try to match the usual style on the wiki next time. - Starfield 13:59, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
Fiction sections = past tense
What the title says. Our fiction sections are written like a historical record, in the past tense. Only actual episode/issue recaps are written in present tense. -- Repowers 00:57, 28 May 2009 (EDT)
Nemesis
Read the comic before deciding to move articles around. Ask IDW employees before moving articles around. For God's sake. --FFN 10:16, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
- You moved it back already!!?? It is in the ROTF movie adaptation #2. Trust me. - Starfield 10:25, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
Removing comingsoontoy tags
If you're going to remove the comingsoontoy tags but will not write a description for the toys, please remember to put a {{charstubtoys}} in its place so there isn't a big blank space there. Thanks. --FFN 04:24, 12 June 2009 (EDT)
Storylinks
Last I checked, you aren't supposed to put storylinks in the opening of articles. --FFN 18:11, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
- Oh. Thanks. - Starfield 18:13, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
ROTF comic adaptations
Can you change the tense of these articles you have written? While we use past tense in character articles, we use present tense when recapping stories. Thanks. --FFN 07:21, 27 June 2009 (EDT)
Category spam
First, you keep forgetting to mark these edits as "minor," so they spam up the Recent Changes something fierce. Second, I think we're getting ridiculously specific with these categories beyond the point of usefulness, and think we need some community discussion on this.--RosicrucianTalk 22:57, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
- Sorry about the spam. I didn't make the categories, I just ran with it. - Starfield 22:59, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
Categorizing
Category:Dinoforce already contains Category:Decepticons, Category:Pretenders. :) --TX55TALK 13:20, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
Techno-organic
Please show me the instance where the term technorganic us used in show, as from everything I can recall Blackarachnia, Sari and Waspinator are all consistently referred to as techo-organics. Out side BA's toy bio, I can't think of a single time the term is used in Animated User:Eire 20.58 Sept 2 09 (UTC)
- Can you show me where it is spelled "techno-organic"? As far as I know it is never spelled "techno-organic." I don't know why the characters pronounce it "tech-no-or-gan-ic" when the spelling suggests they should pronounce it "tech-nor-gan-ic" but that is not my problem. It is spelled "technorganic." - Starfield 16:06, 2 September 2009 (EDT)
- It is said in show as tek-no-or-gan-ic. And they say it with a break, which would fully indicate the spelling of techno-organic. Tek-nor-gan-ic ONLY appears in the toy bio. Technorganic is spelled technorganic and said technorganic. Neither of which applies to the term techno-organic. Especially since technically, a distinction is made between the two terms in Transformers fiction (The glossary in the BW omnibus for example applies the term techno-organic to standard beast mode transformers). If the term appears in the show as techno-organic, the term technorganic should not be applied for the show. In fact, technically, Sari at least, and maybe Waspinator I've never seen his bio, should not be included under the term technorganic because she is only ever referred to as a techno-organic, by both Soundwave and Sumdac. Your problems aren't the issue, the accuracy of the information is. BA's bio calls her a technorganic, she should be included in the main article. But, Sari and Waspinator (again, if his bio has it fine) should not be included in the fiction section, but inserted as a note, explaining how the term techno-organic is used in show, or include them in the main article, but addd the note with the addition of the assumption that the shows usage of the term techno-organic is synonymous with the term technorganic, based on BA's bio. I accept that BA's condition does have a more tecnorganic feel to it (again, applicable to Waspinator to a degree) but Sari's a different type of being. She's a protoform that sampled organic material, which is the same as a standard Beast Era character (eg Airrazor), and as I said earlier, the BW Sourcebook glossary establishes the correct term for a first gen character is a techno-organic User:Eire 21.18 Sept 2 09 (UTC)
- Doesn't BA call herself tek-no-or-gan-ic in the show? I think she does. How is tek-no-or-gan-ic spelled? The only place it is spelled is in her bio, which is "technorganic." If "tek-no-or-gan-ic" is spelled "technorganic" for her, I would imagine "tek-no-or-gan-ic" is spelled "technorganic" for everyone. - Starfield 16:36, 2 September 2009 (EDT)
- The bio has the word technorganic, which cannot be pronounced as techno-organic as it's missing the o. You just cannot produce the word without the o, therefore if the term in the show is pronounced techno-organic (again, I can't think of a single case of technorganic being used) it must by default be spelt as techno-organic, as technorganic can only be said aloud as technorganic due, as I've already stated, has no o. And since the glossary I mentioned earlier establishes techno-organic as a term, it should perhaps have its own article, detailing the BW use of the term at least, and (since I'm after finding the bio) both Waspinator and Sari, as neither are referred to as technorganics at any point.
- Doesn't BA call herself tek-no-or-gan-ic in the show? I think she does. How is tek-no-or-gan-ic spelled? The only place it is spelled is in her bio, which is "technorganic." If "tek-no-or-gan-ic" is spelled "technorganic" for her, I would imagine "tek-no-or-gan-ic" is spelled "technorganic" for everyone. - Starfield 16:36, 2 September 2009 (EDT)
- It is said in show as tek-no-or-gan-ic. And they say it with a break, which would fully indicate the spelling of techno-organic. Tek-nor-gan-ic ONLY appears in the toy bio. Technorganic is spelled technorganic and said technorganic. Neither of which applies to the term techno-organic. Especially since technically, a distinction is made between the two terms in Transformers fiction (The glossary in the BW omnibus for example applies the term techno-organic to standard beast mode transformers). If the term appears in the show as techno-organic, the term technorganic should not be applied for the show. In fact, technically, Sari at least, and maybe Waspinator I've never seen his bio, should not be included under the term technorganic because she is only ever referred to as a techno-organic, by both Soundwave and Sumdac. Your problems aren't the issue, the accuracy of the information is. BA's bio calls her a technorganic, she should be included in the main article. But, Sari and Waspinator (again, if his bio has it fine) should not be included in the fiction section, but inserted as a note, explaining how the term techno-organic is used in show, or include them in the main article, but addd the note with the addition of the assumption that the shows usage of the term techno-organic is synonymous with the term technorganic, based on BA's bio. I accept that BA's condition does have a more tecnorganic feel to it (again, applicable to Waspinator to a degree) but Sari's a different type of being. She's a protoform that sampled organic material, which is the same as a standard Beast Era character (eg Airrazor), and as I said earlier, the BW Sourcebook glossary establishes the correct term for a first gen character is a techno-organic User:Eire 21.18 Sept 2 09 (UTC)
If you have a way of adding an o into technorganic with out changing the spelling, or if you can find something fictionally or a statement from an offcial source, I'm happy to drop this.User:Eire 22.09 Sep 2 09 (UTC)
- Eire, I thought it over some more. I'm pretty much a toy bio-literalist. Sometimes I take it beyond common sense. This sounds like it might be one of those times. If you think "techno-organic" is better, that's fine with me. - Starfield 17:12, 2 September 2009 (EDT)
- Personally, I usually put shows before bios, but I think at worst its a micro-continuity issue. User:Eire
Withered Hope character columns
I won't even start with editing the columns in Withered Hope, but their labels of "Autobots, Maximals and Minicons" and "Decepticons" and "Others" are astoundingly rediculous. Perhaps they should be... Autobot, Decepticons, Maximals and others? Since Autobots, Deceptiocns and Maximals make up the three largest groups that appear in the fic? 207.181.17.24 20:23, 5 November 2009 (EST)
- That one has been discussed before and that is what was decided on. It may not be pretty but it works. Good guys/Bad guys theme. - Starfield 20:47, 5 November 2009 (EST)
- Reading the talk page I said one thing, ItsWalky said another, and that's it. Not even three opinions. So just asking, what do you think would be the best arrangement? I'm suggesting the change to Autobots, Decepticons, Maximals and Others, as those are the three largest groups and one left for everything else. 207.181.17.24 20:54, 5 November 2009 (EST)

