User talk:Starfield

You can link to an image without actually displaying an image by placing a colon (:) just before Image. Note: Hopefully I am addressing the right person this time. --FFN 01:50, 24 March 2009 (EDT)

Yes, that was me. Thanks! - Starfield 08:43, 24 March 2009 (EDT)

Redirects

Seeing as every redirect you'd created for those toy names for the movie franchise is one that Geewunling later had me delete, I think we can safely say we don't need a redirect for every toy name.--Rosicrucian^Talk 20:13, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

Deletes don't show up in my watchlist or I might have realized what was going on. Really? Movie toy name redirects? They must have been delete-able because I don't immediately recall making them. I don't think there should be redirects for every toy either, but I thought Roadbuster Ultra Magnus was kinda special. It isn't everyday there is a toy deco scheme named after a character (same for the disambig2 on the Roadbuster page). But if not, no biggie. - Starfield 20:31, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

Ah. I didn't pay much attention to the others when deleting them, so if it wasn't you that made 'em my appologies. I just saw you making a new one and came to the wrong conclusion.--Rosicrucian^Talk 20:33, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

OK. I don't think it was me. - Starfield 20:38, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

Unreleased toys

Why don't you just... make the unreleased toys category a subcategory of things that don't exist? —Interrobang 23:54, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

There are only a small number of characters with unreleased toys that don't exist at all. Most have other toys and/or exist in fiction. - Starfield 06:19, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

ROTF

The ROTF page should not be used to put up the latest news. There are questions regarding the details of the Constructicons in this movie, as I outlined in the confirmed news section. As such, we will be holding off on including seeming doubles (Scavenger), guys we never even heard of (Overload), and guys who have no official name yet ("The Doctor"). We'll wait for further information. --FFN 14:13, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Breakdown/Brakedown

Actually, the full story is that we used to have Breakdown (disambig) which I disagreed with because we only had one Breakdown at the time and two Brakedowns. Also, while the names are alike, they are very much not the same. One can have a breakdown, but not a brakedown. One can push the brake(s) down, but not the break(s). Hence, I moved the page to Brakedown (disambig), got Breakdown (disambig) deleted and pulled Breakdown out of the main list, as well as making his page's disambig3 a disambig2 to the Brakedown (disambig) page. Then Breakdown (Titan) was created just before the crash and I intended to have another look at it. Then the crash happened. Brakedown (disambig) was restored, but so was Breakdown (disambig). I decided to just use what we had and make Breakdown alike to Brakedown, but keep them separated because they are not at all the same name, but close enough to justify linked disambig pages. I'm not much for an edit war and I think my decision could use a second opinion. Do you think they are better off merged or can/should I revert your edits? Geewunling 12:31, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

I jumped to the wrong conclusion about the crash. Sorry I didn't discuss it first. Does "Brakedown" mean anything? Racing jargon? I guess that doesn't matter. Transformer names don't have to mean anything. Either way works. You can change it back. - Starfield 12:56, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

It's okay, it is after all a bit of a weird situation with those names and as stated, I have my doubts on my solution. I opt to revert things though, because, yeah, unless anyone actually protests, Breakdown just stays not Brakedown to me. (And all I can say about the meaning of Brakedown is that it sounds very un-Stunticon-ish ^^) Geewunling 13:13, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

Rodimus

The source is useable for fiction purposes - it is out-of-cartoon info that is still explicitly part of the cartoon continuity. This same kind of facet was used on Warpath's article to fix it when we thought he was dead. The wording could be better served by a using it as a ref instead of "Wyatt said so", but it's just as valid as anything else.

For example

"Rodimus was taken out by Oil Slick's Cosmic Rust gel, but pulled through once recovered by the Elite Guard.<ref>Wyatt said so blah blah blah</ref>"

Its not a spoiler, since it's been released from an official source, and its just false to say "we don't know what happened to him". He survived, and we know it. That is a perfectly acceptable way of doing it.KrytenKoro 11:29, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

First of all, you need a reference to where the information came from. Did he tell you personally in casual conversation? Is it on a blog? If it is on a blog, link to it. Second, the word of Wyatt, even in a blog, is not a valid source for new fictional events. It can be used to clarify something that was seen in fiction (was that Alpha Trion?) but it can't add a new event that was never depicted, such as Rodimus on the road to recovery. Read the article on Hail and Farewell for an example where a item on a blog was explicitly claimed to be canon but wasn't. - Starfield 11:46, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

PNG files

I would suggest you convert all the PNG files you have uploaded to JPG files, then ask for your PNG files to be deleted. There is no reason to use PNG files in these instances, for they are several times as large as equivalent JPGs. In fact, you appear to have ignored the warnings the Wiki software should have given you when you attempt to upload a file that is larger than 150KB. --FFN 11:14, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

Check. - Starfield 11:15, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, our main use for PNGs is insignia, since that's one of the few places they're an advantage.--Rosicrucian^Talk 11:18, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

Thanks, I don't upload many pics. - Starfield 11:20, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

S'okay. I'm just wonky about it since I compiled our image policy.--Rosicrucian^Talk 11:23, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, it's okay. I am also wonky about this since I probably upload the most images on the wiki, and am really strict about how I do it, so I want everybody to follow my example, goshdarnit. --FFN 11:40, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

Converting them to JPG gives them a black background (at least the way I do it). That should be OK. - Starfield 11:42, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

Thanks

Thanks for your help on the movie articles, dood! --FFN 16:23, 5 May 2009 (EDT)

Sorry? I could have done some of them. - Starfield 16:37, 5 May 2009 (EDT)

Categories in preview

You can actually see them in the preview. You just have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page. —Interrobang 23:46, 6 May 2009 (EDT)

Cool. Thanks. - Starfield 23:47, 6 May 2009 (EDT)

"Purple motorcycle Autobot"

You don't need need to rush off and create every article you can. We can wait for them to reveal her name. --FFN 19:19, 7 May 2009 (EDT)

It's OK. I don't mind. I don't think I was rushing. The comic she was in has been out for 6 weeks. - Starfield 19:25, 7 May 2009 (EDT)

Slow Down!

Before: Soudwave came with a overly sculpted missile that apears to represent Ravage in Transition form. He can't transform tough...bummer.
After: Soundwave comes with an intricately sculpted missile that appears to represent Ravage in transition form. He can't transform, though...bummer.

Don't rush; take all the time you need to proof yourself, please.--Apcog 16:02, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

The Veiled Threat articles

I would suggest you avoid basing the text of these articles so closely to the paragraphs in the book. I recognise the style of prose that comes from a novel (even if you didn't copy it word-for-word) and it is almost completely different from the usual style of writing on the wiki. --FFN 06:46, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

I suppose I can try to match the usual style on the wiki next time. - Starfield 13:59, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

Fiction sections = past tense

What the title says. Our fiction sections are written like a historical record, in the past tense. Only actual episode/issue recaps are written in present tense. -- Repowers 00:57, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

Nemesis

Read the comic before deciding to move articles around. Ask IDW employees before moving articles around. For God's sake. --FFN 10:16, 2 June 2009 (EDT)

You moved it back already!!?? It is in the ROTF movie adaptation #2. Trust me. - Starfield 10:25, 2 June 2009 (EDT)

Removing comingsoontoy tags

If you're going to remove the comingsoontoy tags but will not write a description for the toys, please remember to put a {{charstubtoys}} in its place so there isn't a big blank space there. Thanks. --FFN 04:24, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

Storylinks

Last I checked, you aren't supposed to put storylinks in the opening of articles. --FFN 18:11, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

Oh. Thanks. - Starfield 18:13, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

ROTF comic adaptations

Can you change the tense of these articles you have written? While we use past tense in character articles, we use present tense when recapping stories. Thanks. --FFN 07:21, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

Category spam

First, you keep forgetting to mark these edits as "minor," so they spam up the Recent Changes something fierce. Second, I think we're getting ridiculously specific with these categories beyond the point of usefulness, and think we need some community discussion on this.--Rosicrucian^Talk 22:57, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

Sorry about the spam. I didn't make the categories, I just ran with it. - Starfield 22:59, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

Categorizing

Category:Dinoforce already contains Category:Decepticons, Category:Pretenders. :) --TX55^TALK 13:20, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

Techno-organic

Please show me the instance where the term technorganic us used in show, as from everything I can recall Blackarachnia, Sari and Waspinator are all consistently referred to as techo-organics. Out side BA's toy bio, I can't think of a single time the term is used in Animated User:Eire 20.58 Sept 2 09 (UTC)

Can you show me where it is spelled "techno-organic"? As far as I know it is never spelled "techno-organic." I don't know why the characters pronounce it "tech-no-or-gan-ic" when the spelling suggests they should pronounce it "tech-nor-gan-ic" but that is not my problem. It is spelled "technorganic." - Starfield 16:06, 2 September 2009 (EDT)

It is said in show as tek-no-or-gan-ic. And they say it with a break, which would fully indicate the spelling of techno-organic. Tek-nor-gan-ic ONLY appears in the toy bio. Technorganic is spelled technorganic and said technorganic. Neither of which applies to the term techno-organic. Especially since technically, a distinction is made between the two terms in Transformers fiction (The glossary in the BW omnibus for example applies the term techno-organic to standard beast mode transformers). If the term appears in the show as techno-organic, the term technorganic should not be applied for the show. In fact, technically, Sari at least, and maybe Waspinator I've never seen his bio, should not be included under the term technorganic because she is only ever referred to as a techno-organic, by both Soundwave and Sumdac. Your problems aren't the issue, the accuracy of the information is. BA's bio calls her a technorganic, she should be included in the main article. But, Sari and Waspinator (again, if his bio has it fine) should not be included in the fiction section, but inserted as a note, explaining how the term techno-organic is used in show, or include them in the main article, but addd the note with the addition of the assumption that the shows usage of the term techno-organic is synonymous with the term technorganic, based on BA's bio. I accept that BA's condition does have a more tecnorganic feel to it (again, applicable to Waspinator to a degree) but Sari's a different type of being. She's a protoform that sampled organic material, which is the same as a standard Beast Era character (eg Airrazor), and as I said earlier, the BW Sourcebook glossary establishes the correct term for a first gen character is a techno-organic User:Eire 21.18 Sept 2 09 (UTC)

Doesn't BA call herself tek-no-or-gan-ic in the show? I think she does. How is tek-no-or-gan-ic spelled? The only place it is spelled is in her bio, which is "technorganic." If "tek-no-or-gan-ic" is spelled "technorganic" for her, I would imagine "tek-no-or-gan-ic" is spelled "technorganic" for everyone. - Starfield 16:36, 2 September 2009 (EDT)

The bio has the word technorganic, which cannot be pronounced as techno-organic as it's missing the o. You just cannot produce the word without the o, therefore if the term in the show is pronounced techno-organic (again, I can't think of a single case of technorganic being used) it must by default be spelt as techno-organic, as technorganic can only be said aloud as technorganic due, as I've already stated, has no o. And since the glossary I mentioned earlier establishes techno-organic as a term, it should perhaps have its own article, detailing the BW use of the term at least, and (since I'm after finding the bio) both Waspinator and Sari, as neither are referred to as technorganics at any point.

If you have a way of adding an o into technorganic with out changing the spelling, or if you can find something fictionally or a statement from an offcial source, I'm happy to drop this.User:Eire 22.09 Sep 2 09 (UTC)

Eire, I thought it over some more. I'm pretty much a toy bio-literalist. Sometimes I take it beyond common sense. This sounds like it might be one of those times. If you think "techno-organic" is better, that's fine with me. - Starfield 17:12, 2 September 2009 (EDT)

Personally, I usually put shows before bios, but I think at worst its a micro-continuity issue. User:Eire

Withered Hope character columns

I won't even start with editing the columns in Withered Hope, but their labels of "Autobots, Maximals and Minicons" and "Decepticons" and "Others" are astoundingly rediculous. Perhaps they should be... Autobot, Decepticons, Maximals and others? Since Autobots, Deceptiocns and Maximals make up the three largest groups that appear in the fic? 207.181.17.24 20:23, 5 November 2009 (EST)

That one has been discussed before and that is what was decided on. It may not be pretty but it works. Good guys/Bad guys theme. - Starfield 20:47, 5 November 2009 (EST)

Reading the talk page I said one thing, ItsWalky said another, and that's it. Not even three opinions to break a tie. So just asking, what do you think would be the best arrangement? I'm suggesting the change to Autobots, Decepticons, Maximals and Others, as those are the three largest groups and one left for everything else. 207.181.17.24 20:54, 5 November 2009 (EST)

It works as it is I think. - Starfield 20:55, 5 November 2009 (EST)

can this url work for the eltia-1 toy?

[1] - Eagc7

I don't think you need a link in this case. You can just say she is a Chromia repaint. The cat is out of the bag. - Starfield 14:04, 14 February 2010 (EST)

"Thieves"

"Took something once" does not make a character's function "thief". --M Sipher 21:59, 8 March 2010 (EST)

I was trying to be careful to only put in characters that are called thieves in bios and such. Trypticon is a bit of a stretch, but I was assuming "Thief in the Night" was referring to him. - Starfield 22:02, 8 March 2010 (EST)

DUDE HOLD THE HELL ON

Can we stop and talk about this before you make 30 billion more categories? --ItsWalky 23:03, 10 March 2010 (EST)

I'm done. - Starfield 23:02, 10 March 2010 (EST)

yay now the fun work of deciding which of these 30 billion edits we should keep --ItsWalky 23:03, 10 March 2010 (EST)

So why is Animated Starscream a space specialist, again? Because he once traveled from the Moon to Earth? --ItsWalky 23:04, 10 March 2010 (EST)

And Depth Charge? What? --ItsWalky 23:05, 10 March 2010 (EST)

Starscream was sorta Jimsorenson's request. Depth Charge's bio: "Intermediate space-cruiser mode can achieve planetary orbit". - Starfield 23:09, 10 March 2010 (EST)

He actually went from deep space to Earth, and routinely went from the moon to the Earth. But frankly, I don't see any reason for this category to exist at all.--Jimsorenson 23:31, 10 March 2010 (EST)

Looks like I don't need to make another subsection for this. HOLD OFF on the "____ people" category stuff. --M Sipher 19:43, 29 August 2010 (EDT)

SpeedStars/Speed Stars

Where do you get that SpeedStars is two words? The logo is inconclusive, and the website has it as SpeedStars in the title bar. --Monzo 16:09, 23 October 2010 (EDT)

I was looking at the website for the track set. I guess it is SPEEDSTARS too. Sorry If I moved it too fast. - Starfield 16:14, 23 October 2010 (EDT)

Also, the Hunt for the Decepticons catalog says SPEED STARS™*. - Starfield 11:47, 24 October 2010 (EDT)

Warpath

Seems you re-edited my Warpath comment on the Rodimus vs. Cyclonus page. See, I made a comparison here. See, Warpath has a different head, no light underneath his turret, added guns mounted on his back and shoulders, and no treads on his arms. Not only that, but his color layout is slightly different.--Spin-Out 19:25, 25 December 2010 (EST)

Warpath is as close to his Legends toy as Rumble or Grapple (crane over shoulder) are to their toys. He isn't "entirely new". But whatever. - Starfield

He absolutely is not. --ItsWalky 20:56, 25 December 2010 (EST)

Is not what? Not "Entirely new", or not "as close to this Legends toy as Rumble or Grapple are to their toys"? I admittedly do not have an eye for art-related things. I should have left it alone. - Starfield 12:37, 26 December 2010 (EST)

You are on probation

No more merge/separation/move requests. Ever. You are only allowed to add content in other ways. I am tired of this. --ItsWalky 16:55, 11 April 2011 (EDT)

OK - Starfield 16:59, 11 April 2011 (EDT)

Let's add new category requests to this growing list. --ItsWalky 01:34, 2 May 2011 (EDT)

I just noticed this. Did you just throw this in for the hell of it, or have I abused categories lately? - Starfield 16:03, 12 June 2011 (EDT)

The Power and the Glory

Starfield, I'm afraid I don't understand your objection to that tongue caption on The Power and the Glory. Could you enlighten me as to your concern? JW 10:12, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Does Manny Galan need to cut back on the hentai? - Starfield 10:45, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

It's an image caption, thus intended to be humorous, thus not required to be factual. Surely you're aware of this; don't be spurious. What is your actual objection? JW 11:56, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Yes, it is a joke. The joke's on Manny Galen. Regular readers will know image captions are jokey. But Manny Galan is a real person, not some fictional character. The wiki is basically calling a Transformers comic artist some kind of perv for the sake of a lame caption joke. (That Manny Galan guy has crossed the line even beyond normal levels of socially acceptable hentai consumption. That dude likes his Japanese tentacle porn too much.) I don't think that's cool, that's all. - Starfield 12:03, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Only if you consider liking porn to be some sort of insult. Are you a priest? Also, stop self-censoring "hentai." It's embarrassing. --ItsWalky 12:07, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Doesn't "hentai" have negative connotations in English? Wikipedia says: "The word 'hentai' has a negative connotation to the Japanese and is commonly used to mean 'sexually perverted'.....In slang, 変態 (hentai) is used as an insult meaning roughly 'pervert' or 'weirdo'." *shrugs* I'm dropping the topic. My only intention was making the place a little less insulting to Transformers creators for no particular reason. I was overruled by the wiki. OK. - Starfield 13:24, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

That's the japanese definition. In English it means "Japanese animated porno." Nothing more. Semysane 03:04, 2 May 2011 (EDT)

I believe you're overreacting, Starfield. Please leave the caption alone. I created it when I created that page, and I don't think you have the necessary cause or entitlement to change it, nor is such an action supported by the wiki's policies. JW 12:12, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Your old userpic

I know you've stripped your userpage right back, but the userpic you had on there before is marked for deletion. Since you're still active here, I thought I'd check with you before deleting it. Do you still want it? --abates 23:12, 28 September 2011 (EDT)

It's OK to delete it. Thanks for asking. Starfield 01:44, 29 September 2011 (EDT)

Convention original characters

Why did you delete all those? ItsWalky 23:37, 5 January 2012 (EST)

The majority of the SG characters weren't in a category. I thought about putting them all in Convention-original or Fan-club-original categories, but it didn't make sense. They aren't original characters like they were invented for the Fan club or convention. Is SG Optimus Prime an original character? Not really. He's G1, only mirrored. Negative Primax. - Starfield 00:50, 6 January 2012 (EST)

..... no. --M Sipher 01:05, 6 January 2012 (EST)

Take a look at this talk page, please. ItsWalky said Optimus Prime was clearly a G1 Prime and the only reason he got his own page was because the page would be too big. Nobody disputed it. I remembered that (I read it more recently than 2008) and that was part of the reason I thought the change wouldn't be a problem. - Starfield 01:20, 6 January 2012 (EST)

So you're basing a sweeping across the board change of dozens of articles on a discussion that is nearly four years old, and which happened before the bulk of Shattered Glass fiction was even published?--Rosicrucian^Talk 01:25, 6 January 2012 (EST)

Apparently. --M Sipher 01:30, 6 January 2012 (EST)

And uh... here's a hint. Sipher and Walky were big parts of that discussion you're referencing, and they're scratching their heads at you.--Rosicrucian^Talk 01:31, 6 January 2012 (EST)

Holy scrap! No need to pile-on. I'm just explaining why I didn't think it would be controversial. Also, lots of SG characters weren't in a category and I thought I was pretty much just cleaning up. I still don't know why it is controversial. It seems clear to me that SG Prime is a G1 Prime and not an "original character." - Starfield 01:47, 6 January 2012 (EST)

It is "original" in the sense of "having originated from", not "is original period". Shattered Glass Optimus Prime is a character that originated at BotCon 2008; it does not matter that he derives from a pre-existing character, he was created by Convention/Fanclub fiction, and thus is original to it. It is not the same thing as a guy like Landshark, who premiered in Convention/Fanclub material but is "original" to the franchise as a whole.

And no, before you ask, you cannot change the category to "convention-originated characters". EDIT: Clarifying. --Monzo 02:11, 6 January 2012 (EST)

Thank you very much for explaining. But seeing how close SG Optimus Prime came to being put on G1 Optimus Prime's page, I don't think he is a character that originated at BotCon 2008. I don't think he derives from a pre-existing character. I think he is the same character as Marvel Prime and cartoon Prime and IDW Prime (as the Wiki defines "character"). ItsWalky thought so back then and nobody disagreed. I don't see how that could have changed. Why is he any less a G1 Prime now? He's the same dude. This is a issue now because in 2008 SG Prime was given his own page for convenience and now, four years later, wiki organization is driving content. In my humble opinion, which I feel more free to give on my own talk page. - Starfield 02:46, 6 January 2012 (EST)

I cannot speak for Walky's current opinion, but the bulk of the discussion to which you refer occurred in January and February of 2008. The comic didn't come out until April. Your reasoning is based on opinions that were themselves uninformed, and we have moved forward from them. --Monzo 03:06, 6 January 2012 (EST)

Poking around, the wiki doesn't link SG and G1 as much as I assumed it would have, but there is this little bit on the Continuity family page under "Generation 1": Even the Fun Publications "mirror universe" of Shattered Glass, featuring heroic Decepticons and evil Autobots, is officially categorized as a Primax (Generation 1) universe, though for book-keeping purposes, this wiki notes it as being its own family in our continuity identifiers. - Starfield 03:40, 6 January 2012 (EST)

Starfield I hate you. Put all these things back, if you haven't already. --ItsWalky 09:03, 6 January 2012 (EST)

Good morning! M Sipher already did that somewhere between "Apparently." and "And uh... here's a hint." I still don't think I'm wrong that "book-keeping purposes" have driven content on the wiki (SG is in the G1 continuity family 4ever). But to show I'm a good sport, I volunteer to put the dozens of Fan Club-original SG doppelgängers into that category who aren't already there. If you want. - Starfield 12:15, 6 January 2012 (EST)

OK, you don't have to ask, I'll help out. - Starfield 21:15, 30 January 2012 (EST)

Transformation cog

Is "T-cog" hyphenated in the captions? I wasn't sure whether it was or not. --abates 21:20, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

I don't know either. - Starfield 21:25, 19 March 2012 (EDT)